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That is the focus of the discussion to show that the taint carry power of it's own,so the more one is tainted the more potential power it possess but this power isn't necessarly to classify as  magic.

This isn't magic since dodge isn't a magical ability is a physical characteristic and can be improved without touching the dexterity.

Example a berserker is a mage?NO
but being one it improves your health by 10 points without touching the constitution
The dark passage use the powers of the taint to improve the physical forever,this isn't a spell

 

Just because something is a physical characteristic doesn't mean it is natural. In Pokemon, there's a move called "Shadow Sneak", a Ghost move (read: not natural) that hits physically that "extends its shadow and strikes the enemy from behind" - sounds a lot like the stealth aspect of Dark Passage to me. Also, again, comparison to Spider Sense - it alerts Spiderman to approaching danger in specific circumstances. It might warn him of an incoming bomb, giving him enough heads-up to dodge out of the way yet falls silent if he stubs his toe like anyone else. Dark Passage doesn't improve the Warden's physical being to make their joints more agile - it just makes their probability of avoiding attacks better, apparently more aware of the opponent's movements.



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Just because something is a physical characteristic doesn't mean it is natural. In Pokemon, there's a move called "Shadow Sneak", a Ghost move (read: not natural) that hits physically that "extends its shadow and strikes the enemy from behind" - sounds a lot like the stealth aspect of Dark Passage to me. Also, again, comparison to Spider Sense - it alerts Spiderman to approaching danger in specific circumstances. It might warn him of an incoming bomb, giving him enough heads-up to dodge out of the way yet falls silent if he stubs his toe like anyone else. Dark Passage doesn't improve the Warden's physical being to make their joints more agile - it just makes their probability of avoiding attacks better, apparently more aware of the opponent's movements.

Pretty much more or less this, though i doubt it will work.This guy loves to talk about things even when he has no idea about them adding non-existent "facts" to support his idea.Guy insisted i was wrong despite i proved him that he is wrong with definition or when he messed up date of events in the book.  



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Regarding the video.

Morrigan states that the Warden is on a quest to combat the Calling. This does not contradict my position that he is out to cure the taint. Curing the taint naturally combats the Calling.

She also states the Calling signals the end of a Warden's life. Signals it. The Calling does not end the life itself. This is consistent with what I wrote. The Calling alerts the Warden to the approaching death through the taint. Blocking the Calling without curing the taint would simply result in the Warden dying unexpectedly.

The Inquisitor asks how the Calling can be stopped and if that's even possible. The Inquisitor's question does not indicate that the goal of the mission is to stop the Calling, as the Inquisitor is just an outside party inquiring as to the details.

Morrigan then gives two examples. The first is Fiona, and she states that the blight was removed from her blood. Notice she specifically refers to the taint by saying "blight", and she also states that it was in her blood. This is proof of what I wrote, that the taint exists in the blood and that is the thing that kills. That is what the cure is supposed to remedy.

The second example was Avernus, and we have discussed that already. He also refers to the taint in the blood and how it slowly corrupts the Warden's body. He writes about slowing the taint's spread.

So again, this shows that the taint, also called the blight here by Morrigan, is the true target. The Calling is just the alarm that lets the Warden know that the taint is starting to take over. The Hero would not bother with a quest that only involves silencing the Calling without curing the taint. The Calling is a good thing. Eliminating that only leaves the Warden to become corrupted without warning.
 

I think we were at odds, but now you seem to be agreeing with me. Before, when you posted the Hero's letter and how he would not let the Calling claim his life, it looked to me that you were claiming that the Calling is what ends the Warden's life. If I'm mistaken about that then I apologize. However, if you knew the whole time that the Calling was just the signal, it seems odd then that you would believe the quest for a cure was to silence the Calling rather than remove the taint. So yes, my position is that the Calling marks the point at which the taint begins to overwhelm a Warden's body and mind.
 

Okay, well that's quite the nuance that either you did not convey or I did not pick up on before. So you're arguing that the Hero wants to halt the spread of the taint within his own body so that it does not overtake him yet also is not removed from his body?

I could get behind that idea, although personally I believe that the Hero would prefer to be completely free from the taint and any negative effects of it, regardless of what benefits it bestows. Also, I think there is a better option for all Heroes.

I think the cure could be something that removes the taint completely, for Heroes who want that. Doing so would remove the ability to sense Darkspawn and slay an archdemon. It would also restore fertility (or at least halt the damage being done to it) and it would allow it so Darkspawn cannot sense that individual anymore. As for Heroes who want to keep the taint but halt the spread, I think Avernus' research should be the avenue those Heroes use to increase their lives and halt the spread of the taint, or unlock more power in the taint. I don't think that the cure should halt the taint where it's at. It wouldn't be a cure in that case, just a treatment. But if BioWare goes with the cure halting the spread of the taint, I guess I could accept it. There would still be the question of if the taint would still lead to a premature death based on the damage already done however.
 

Well, now that I know your true position, I won't say that it's impossible. I don't think the video proves that the Hero is out to find a way to halt the spread of the taint within a body. I think the whole point of a "cure" is to... cure something, not keep it under control or manage it. I also believe that the Hero would rather be free of the taint, or else live for centuries with it like Avernus. But I will admit that your theory is possible.

One theory I've had for a while is that the cure will eventually be used on the Black City at some point in the future. If it's just something that halts the spread of the taint, then it will do no good. A cure on the other hand might purify the Black City. Just a side theory though. Disregard.
 

Real world BioWare laziness reasons aside, this could be because the Hero disapproves of the Order and wishes to change it for the better from the inside. A cure could effectively nullify the need for Grey Wardens.
 

That could be for a number of reasons. Perhaps Avernus took it upon himself to send word out to Weisshaupt, and the Hero couldn't hide it at that point. Or maybe Avernus' research uncovered something too important to keep from the Wardens outside Ferelden, and doing so could have put the world at risk. Or maybe it was done to sow seeds of discontent within the Warden ranks at Weisshaupt. We don't know what the information is. So it's impossible to say.

 

Both Morrigan and The Warden make it clear via their communications that the Calling is their target, not the Taint itself. As we have found that we agree on, the Calling refers to a very specific point in the Taint's life cycle if you will. That said the inclusion of Fiona in the conversation leaves room to some interpretation though regardless of their intent Fiona's situation is unique and connected via The Architect and his own experiments with the Taint and Warden blood.

 

The "Calling" is very specific language and there is a reason that Morrigan, The Warden and others use it. The entire episodes with Avernus, The Architect, the revelations/discoveries therein and their inching forward in DAII and DA:I are clearly foreshadowing something: Unlocking the power of the Taint. Curing the Taint is all well and good but in not one of the aforementioned instances has it been a focus.

 

As for you thoughts on The Warden's intentions, while interesting it is all headcannon and not relevant to current events. Regardless of who we wanted our Wardens to be or what decisions we MIGHT have made in Bioware's stead, the Warden's time as a protagonist is for the moment over and we no longer have control over their actions. This doesn't mean that they aren't in part a product of ours but the Warden's role in the Cure and Grey Warden story-lines is set no matter the angle we would prefer it takes.



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Some? Only ONE is a passive, as I said. Let's look at the various non-mage Power of Blood abilities.

 

Warrior

Blood Thirst: (Sustained) "The warriors own tainted blood spills in sacrifice, increasing movement speed, attack speed and critical hit-chance."

Blood Fury: (Activated) "The warrior sprays tainted blood in order to knock back nearby enemies"

 

Rogue:

The Tainted Blade: (Sustained) "The rogue's blood gushes forth, coating the edges of weapons with a deadly taint."

Dark Passage: (Passive) "Tapping the power of tainted blood makes the rogue more nimble, able to move more quickly while using Stealth and more likely to dodge a physical attack."

 

The game specifically says that the Dark Passage abilities "tap into the power of tainted blood." That alone should indicate it is a magical ability. If I spit, I don't "tap into the power of saliva."

 

They are not Magical abilities. Magic has a specific definition and comes from a very specific place: The Fade. When Mages use Magic they are tapping into the Fade. The Taint is a different source of power all together that does not, in some capacity, require the prerequisite of being a Mage to tap into. Darkspawn Emissaries are not connected to the Fade as other Mages are and use the power of Taint to power their "Magic". While all Darkspawn are connected to the Taint they are the only ones able to draw upon it's power in such a way. That said the Taint isn't well understood. There very well may be revelations in the future that classify it as a type of Magical force but the facts as we now know them do not support that.


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Just because something is a physical characteristic doesn't mean it is natural. In Pokemon, there's a move called "Shadow Sneak", a Ghost move (read: not natural) that hits physically that "extends its shadow and strikes the enemy from behind" - sounds a lot like the stealth aspect of Dark Passage to me. Also, again, comparison to Spider Sense - it alerts Spiderman to approaching danger in specific circumstances. It might warn him of an incoming bomb, giving him enough heads-up to dodge out of the way yet falls silent if he stubs his toe like anyone else. Dark Passage doesn't improve the Warden's physical being to make their joints more agile - it just makes their probability of avoiding attacks better, apparently more aware of the opponent's movements.

I got your perspective but what i'm trying to say is that the taint is not magic because is a perpetual form of energy that it sustains itself without the need of any extra source of sustainment.
It is somethin alien that allow you to improve or use magic attacks or improve physical characteristics but it is not magic it does not depend on the fade and on long run it alter even the body.

 

Pretty much more or less this, though i doubt it will work.This guy loves to talk about things even when he has no idea about them adding non-existent "facts" to support his idea.Guy insisted i was wrong despite i proved him that he is wrong with definition or when he messed up date of events in the book.  

No it doesn't work because you are very much wrong



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They are not Magical abilities. Magic has a specific definition and comes from a very specific place: The Fade. When Mages use Magic they are tapping into the Fade. The Taint is a different source of power all together that does not, in some capacity, require the prerequisite of being a Mage to tap into. Darkspawn Emissaries are not connected to the Fade as other Mages are and use the power of Taint to power their "Magic". While all Darkspawn are connected to the Taint they are the only ones able to draw upon it's power in such a way. That said the Taint isn't well understood. There very well may be revelations in the future that classify it as a type of Magical force but the facts as we now know them do not support that.

*Coughs* blight magic
Pretty much would explain why genlocks can use magic 
 

 

 

 

I got your perspective but what i'm trying to say is that the taint is not magic because is a perpetual form of energy that it sustains itself without the need of any extra source of sustainment.
It is somethin alien that allow you to improve or use magic attacks or improve physical characteristics but it is not magic it odes not depend on the fade.

 

No it doesn't work because you are very much wrong

 

 

^ Once again proven you have no idea about things you are talking about and yet you talk about it. :lol:



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In first place Berserker is a specialization that you have to train in, so once again you are going of the rails.

Berserker is a specialization discussed by Oghren who said that it doesn't require any training only the mood of anger and it give you + 10 extra health with constitution,is this magic uh?



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*Coughs* blight magic
Pretty much would explain why genlocks can use magic 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Cough
 the blight magic is the magic developed by using the taint as the source of energy,but the taint isn't magic.
you have no idea of what you are talking about and keep confusing the cause with the effects,the taint is the source not the magic in itself.

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Blah... I'm done with this topic. Seems to be devolving into an "I'm right, you're wrong" back-and-forth. Besides, I can't remember the last time the Inquisitor was brought into things. Now it's a debate about how the Power of Blood works - a debate, mind you, based on semantics and minor fluff text. Should we turn the entire topic into Power of Blood notions to extrapolate on my belief that the Warden is already immune to the Calling due to the Power of Blood (if the effects on Avernus are any indication) and just needs to find a more efficient way of spreading the Power of Blood to all Wardens?

 

TLDR: We've gone off-topic and the current discussion feels inane to me.



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Berserker is a specialization discussed by Oghren who said that it doesn't require any training only the mood of anger and it give you + 10 extra health with constitution,is this magic uh?

Except you have to ask Oghren to teach you then he proceeds to do so, plus  he said there is whole philosophical aspect to it , aside from fact getting enraged would require mental training.So no, not magic simply traning.

 

 

Cough
 the blight magic is the magic developed by using the taint as the source of energy,but the taint isn't magic.
you have no idea of what you are talking about and keep confusing the cause with the effects,the taint is the source not the magic in itself.

 

:lol:

Dude, once again you are proved wrong with link with sources that clearly say blight magic is magic in fact it has magic in the very name and yet insist im wrong pls. That it doesn't come from the fade doesn't change it is still magic just from different source.You are being ridiculous right now (not a first time), ignoring sources and saying once again that you know better than everyone else ,the game and other dragon age products.



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Here you lost me.
The child is tainted that's why the magic work in the first place since the child bear the taint and this is explicitly said in game.

 
The magic works by using the Grey Warden's seed to mimic the the signal emitted by the taint. That doesn't mean that the child is tainted. In fact it seems Kieran is physically healthy whether he was born with or without the Dark Ritual being performed.
 

Both Morrigan and The Warden make it clear via their communications that the Calling is their target, not the Taint itself.


I disagree. They refer to it as the Calling, but they could still be referring to the taint itself by calling it that. It also makes no sense that a far away land with no knowledge of the taint would have a treatment for it that only halts its spread. More likely they have a cure-all that removes all kinds of curses and illnesses.

As we have found that we agree on, the Calling refers to a very specific point in the Taint's life cycle if you will. That said the inclusion of Fiona in the conversation leaves room to some interpretation though regardless of their intent Fiona's situation is unique and connected via The Architect and his own experiments with the Taint and Warden blood.


Yes, a point in the course of the taint's corruption, but I still believe that the Hero would rather be free of the taint completely. The taint itself, even prior to the Calling, has its own set of negatives. While the Hero would not die at the 30 year mark, he would still be living with all the negative effects, and I don't think he wants that either. If he did, then Avernus' research should have been enough.

The "Calling" is very specific language and there is a reason that Morrigan, The Warden and others use it.


There might be a reason for it, or their might not be. Or the reason might be different from what you think it is.

The entire episodes with Avernus, The Architect, the revelations/discoveries therein and their inching forward in DAII and DA:I are clearly foreshadowing something: Unlocking the power of the Taint. Curing the Taint is all well and good but in not one of the aforementioned instances has it been a focus.


Because they were all unrelated to the current quest for a cure. So what if they are researching a way to tap into the taint? That does not automatically disqualify an effort to find a cure for it.

...the Warden's role in the Cure and Grey Warden story-lines is set no matter the angle we would prefer it takes.


I agree. But I do not think that BioWare is leading toward a storyline in which the taint's spread is stopped. I believe it is leading toward the purification of it.

What the Hero wrote about the Calling might have only been to conceal the fact that Grey Wardens are blighted with the Darkspawn taint.

If Morrigan had been talking about halting the spread of the taint, then I think she would have plainly stated that. She would have said something like, he wants to prevent the Calling by finding a way to halt the spread of the taint's corruption. She's putting too much focus on the Calling, and nothing on the concept of halting the taint's progress within the body.

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The magic works by using the Grey Warden's seed to mimic the the signal emitted by the taint. That doesn't mean that the child is tainted. In fact it seems Kieran is physically healthy whether he was born with or without the Dark Ritual being performed.


rent from what you think it is.




Ugh no.
The child is tainted,it is what she said.
every child of GW is tainted but the taint is removed before they born

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Except you have to ask Oghren to teach you then he proceeds to do so, plus he said there is whole philosophical aspect to it , aside from fact getting enraged would require mental training.So no, not magic simply traning.

:lol:
Dude, once again you are proved wrong with link with sources that clearly say blight magic is magic in fact it has magic in the very name and yet insist im wrong pls. That it doesn't come from the fade doesn't change it is still magic just from different source.You are being ridiculous right now (not a first time), ignoring sources and saying once again that you know better than everyone else ,the game and other dragon age products.

Oghren clearly say in dialogue what it is required to be a berseker,you can ask and he said that only anger is necessary,there is no training.


You are more than blind in trying to push your view as the truth and compare cause with effect.
The taint is not the blight magic is just it's source used by the mages of the darkspawn,blight magic is the effect the taint is the cause,only Someone Like you has problems in learn such simple concepts

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Ugh no.
The child is tainted,it is what she said.
every child of GW is tainted but the taint is removed before they born


And where did you get this from?

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Oghren clearly say in dialogue what it is required to be a berseker,you can ask and he said that only anger is necessary,there is no training.


You are more than blind in trying to push your view as the truth and compare cause with effect.
The taint is not the blight magic is just it's source used by the mages of the darkspawn,blight magic is the effect the taint is the cause,only Someone Like you has problems in learn such simple concepts

:lol:

Once again , you are ridiculous and ignore everything is said to you and will insist to you are right despite you were proven wrong. Once again that anger is necessary doesn't mean there is no training because there is , Once again warden asks Oghren to teach him then Oghren procedess to do so , Oghren after even comments on warden ability to learn quickly.

 

Dude you are blind one you were provided with link that contain multiple sources that say blight magic is magic, it has even magic in the name.Taint is source of blight magic plain and simple and i never claimed taint is "blight magic" so once again your another ridicolus claim and attempt to derail what is important. Thus, yes taint provides magic and magical abilities to a darkspawn and grey wardens after drinking potion, so your point trying to sell power of blood as not magic is worthless, hell even Avernus compares it a blood magic just instead coming from demons demons comes from taint taint and in the keep it is said potion grants powerful blood magic skills .

 

Pretty much it is reached comical levels by now you many times on many topics you were shown proof of that you are wrong and kept and keep insisting that im wrong and you right because you say so .



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 I disagree. They refer to it as the Calling, but they could still be referring to the taint itself by calling it that. It also makes no sense that a far away land with no knowledge of the taint would have a treatment for it that only halts its spread. More likely they have a cure-all that removes all kinds of curses and illnesses.


Yes, a point in the course of the taint's corruption, but I still believe that the Hero would rather be free of the taint completely. The taint itself, even prior to the Calling, has its own set of negatives. While the Hero would not die at the 30 year mark, he would still be living with all the negative effects, and I don't think he wants that either. If he did, then Avernus' research should have been enough.


There might be a reason for it, or their might not be. Or the reason might be different from what you think it is.


Because they were all unrelated to the current quest for a cure. So what if they are researching a way to tap into the taint? That does not automatically disqualify an effort to find a cure for it.


I agree. But I do not think that BioWare is leading toward a storyline in which the taint's spread is stopped. I believe it is leading toward the purification of it.

What the Hero wrote about the Calling might have only been to conceal the fact that Grey Wardens are blighted with the Darkspawn taint.

If Morrigan had been talking about halting the spread of the taint, then I think she would have plainly stated that. She would have said something like, he wants to prevent the Calling by finding a way to halt the spread of the taint's corruption. She's putting too much focus on the Calling, and nothing on the concept of halting the taint's progress within the body.

 

Again, The Calling is very specific language. Why would the word suddenly be referring to something else after the concept is drilled into out heads over and over again during Here Lies the Abyss? You can't just decide what people "actually" meant when they say something.

 

What you believe does not stand up to the information presented thus far. As for Avernus' research it is just that: research. Avernus made significant breakthroughs but he had yet to accomplish his goal of unlocking the power of the Taint and manipulating it as he made clear in his letters to the Warden and the First Warden. The Warden's quest to cure the Calling is still ongoing as they said themselves in the letter.

 

How exactly are the events related to Avernus, Fiona and The Architect not related to the quest to cure the Calling??? These are the events that inspired the quest in the first place. Morrigan herself ties them all together in a nice little box as the story-line inches forward. Before these events no one knew that it was possible to manipulate or cure the Taint at all. That is the very definition of Foreshadowing.

 

The Hero straight up tells the Inquisitor that Wardens are connected to the Blight.

 

"All Grey Wardens who do not fall in battle eventually fall to something known as the Calling, a magic that preys upon our own connection to the Blight and the darkspawn." - Codex Entry: A Letter From The Hero of Ferelden

 

There is no mincing of words or trying to hide anything. The letter is sent after Here Lies The Abyss where the Inquisitor learns by necessity the details behind the connection between Wardens and the Blight. At this point the Inquisitor know everything and there is nothing to hide. The Warden him/herself refers to the Calling as we both know it to be: The specific point in which the Taint begins to kill the Warden.

 

Morrigan was plainly talking about halting the spread of the Taint:

 

"My love is on a quest to combat the Calling, the actual calling that signals the end of a Warden's life." - Morrigan

 

Here she uses the specific language "The Calling", and it's meaning that we have both agreed upon "signals the end of a Warden's life". No, she didn't use the specific words you want but it has already been well established by multiple characters and sources that I have provided you that stopping the Calling is stopping the Taint from spreading to the point in which it kills.



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Regardless, can we just take some time to appreciate that the Warden succeeds? And also wonder how?

 

Divine, Warden romance

Leliana continued her open affair with the Hero of Ferelden. She/he was often seen at the Divine's side. Eventually, Divine Victoria decreed that all members of the Chantry, from initiate to Divine, would be allowed to engage in romantic relationships. When questioned, the Divine pointed to Andraste, who served the Maker while wed to a mortal spouse. In time, many in the Chantry came to accept the Divine's decree that "Love is the Maker's best gift and is infinite."

Not Divine, Warden romance

Leliana continued her romantic affair with the Hero of Ferelden, even though their respective responsibilities often kept them/the two women apart. Whenever she could spare the time, Leliana would join her love at a villa on the Waking Sea - the house from Leliana's childhood. Those days were deeply cherished, for both saw the troubles that were to come.



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Is that proof of success? It's only 13 years since the Warden's Joining.

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Is that proof of success? It's only 13 years since the Warden's Joining.

No it isn't there is no proof the calling was cured,the warden of DAO will share Larius fate :lol:



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Is that proof of success? It's only 13 years since the Warden's Joining.

 

I'm inferring from the letter of a Warden who romanced King Alistair, saying she can't return home unless she is successful. I doubt very much that BioWare would give the Warden a completely different fate because they romanced Leliana instead of Alistair.


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I'm inferring from the letter of a Warden who romanced King Alistair, saying she can't return home unless she is successful. I doubt very much that BioWare would give the Warden a completely different fate because they romanced Leliana instead of Alistair.

Indeed they all failed no matter who they romanced.

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No it isn't there is no proof the calling was cured,the warden of DAO will share Larius fate :lol:

 

Nuh-uh. Drank the Power of Blood - sharing Avernus' fate instead. ;)


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Nuh-uh. Drank the Power of Blood - sharing Avernus' fate instead. ;)

The power of blood have nothing to do with Avernus life extensions he used another process for that.



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The power of blood have nothing to do with Avernus life extensions he used another process for that.

 

Citation needed. He did a lot of bizarre experiments, yes, but I was under the impression that the Power of Blood was the culmination of all his research. Why then would the Power of Blood NOT provide the same extension of life / slowing of the Calling?

 

I repeat: provide SPECIFIC CITATION for your claim.



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Again, The Calling is very specific language. Why would the word suddenly be referring to something else after the concept is drilled into out heads over and over again during Here Lies the Abyss? You can't just decide what people "actually" meant when they say something.


It's too specific though. The Calling is what you hear when the taint starts to take over. If they were referring to the taint taking over then they would have referred to the taint, not the Calling.

What you believe does not stand up to the information presented thus far. As for Avernus' research it is just that: research.


But his research already found a way to live for ages with the taint. So a prevention of the Calling has already been discovered. As I wrote, if that is all the Hero is after then Avernus' research should be enough.

Avernus made significant breakthroughs but he had yet to accomplish his goal of unlocking the power of the Taint and manipulating it as he made clear in his letters to the Warden and the First Warden. The Warden's quest to cure the Calling is still ongoing as they said themselves in the letter.


Yeah. I know that. My point was about blocking the spread of the taint and preventing the Calling. Avernus already discovered how to do both. What he was researching after that was how to bring out the full potential locked within the taint. That has nothing to do with what he's already discovered.

How exactly are the events related to Avernus, Fiona and The Architect not related to the quest to cure the Calling??? These are the events that inspired the quest in the first place. Morrigan herself ties them all together in a nice little box as the story-line inches forward. Before these events no one knew that it was possible to manipulate or cure the Taint at all. That is the very definition of Foreshadowing.


I think you're starting to mix things up here. I was replying only to the information mentioned in Awakening and 2, not in The Calling or the Soldiers Peak DLC. The info with the Architect in Awakening and the info in the letter in DA2 have nothing to do with the Hero's quest to find a cure. That all has to do with the nature of the taint and the mysterious implications Avernus found therein. My argument is that Avernus can research unlocking the power of the taint all he wants, but that doesn't mean the Hero can't also look for a cure for the taint. Avernus' path has nothing to do with the Hero's. That's why it isn't relevant to the discussion about the cure. If the Hero only wanted to stop the spread of the taint and prevent the Calling, then he should be working closely with Avernus right now, not chasing down a lead in the far west that may be fruitless.

Now, regarding the Architect and Fiona in The Calling, and Avernus' long lifespan in the DLC, yes that is related to the Hero's quest to find a cure. I never wrote otherwise. As for what inspired the quest in the first place, it might not be those events. Morrigan mentions those things, but that may not have been the basis for the quest. Simply knowing that it's possible means nothing. The Hero would need a lead in order to leave for the far west. I think Morrigan found something else regarding the far west and just happened to learn about Fiona later. Avernus she already knew about.

The Hero straight up tells the Inquisitor that Wardens are connected to the Blight.


But he doesn't write how they are connected.

There is no mincing of words or trying to hide anything. The letter is sent after Here Lies The Abyss where the Inquisitor learns by necessity the details behind the connection between Wardens and the Blight. At this point the Inquisitor know everything and there is nothing to hide.


Irrelevant. The Hero doesn't know of the events at Adamant. The Hero doesn't know what the Inquisitor knows or doesn't know.

The Warden him/herself refers to the Calling as we both know it to be: The specific point in which the Taint begins to kill the Warden.


I disagree. The reference could easily mean that he wishes to cure the taint, rather than have it lead him to his Calling, as in the actual journey into the Deep Roads.

Morrigan was plainly talking about halting the spread of the Taint:
 
"My love is on a quest to combat the Calling, the actual calling that signals the end of a Warden's life." - Morrigan
 
Here she uses the specific language "The Calling", and it's meaning that we have both agreed upon "signals the end of a Warden's life". No, she didn't use the specific words you want but it has already been well established by multiple characters and sources that I have provided you that stopping the Calling is stopping the Taint from spreading to the point in which it kills.


I don't think you have proved that. That is your interpretation. I have a different one. Again, I won't say yours is impossible, but my problem with that is 1. A way to prevent the Calling already exists through Avernus. 2. The Calling does not kill the Warden, the taint does. So curing the taint is the logical goal. And combating the Calling can be done by curing the taint.
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