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[Jedi Master of Orion]

DAO's codex says "Most scholar believe the Old Gods must have been real at some point" So the idea they were once free is not new. But they don't have to have been free for Dumat to have been recognized. The author of that codex says he recognizes him because of all the offerings he made to the temple. And he also specifically says that he recognizes him despite the twisted appearance of Archdemons.

 

Even if it was a retcon though, Corypheus himself is one of the newer pieces of lore, any old lore would probably be superseded by new lore when it comes to explaining his previous whereabouts.

[eyezonlyii]

Also, wasn't Dumat the "leader" of the old Gods? Equivalent to Zeus or Ra? If so, it would make sense to think that if your pantheon of gods was to suddenly rise, it would start with the oldest and strongest and then go from there.

[Ashagar]

There is a memory in the realm of the nightmare about a Tevinter priest killed by Dumat in the First Blight that shows they all (almost) instantly recognized him even back then.

 

I remember that and I remember the reason the seven magister's tried breaking into the golden city was because their gods had gone suddenly silent and no longer answered prayers like they did before though the reasons why the golden city was the target is vague given the Tevinter thought it was the seat of their creator deity(that andraste later labeled the maker) that they themselves believed didn't interact with the world which is why they started worshiping the old gods who did.

 

What did they think they were going to do? Demand the creator make their gods answer them again?

[Serza]

It's easily possible that Cory blended with all the other Emissaries out there, and only after the Blight has been found out to be significantly different.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I remember that and I remember the reason the seven magister's tried breaking into the golden city was because their gods had gone suddenly silent and no longer answered prayers like they did before though the reasons why the golden city was the target is vague given the Tevinter thought it was the seat of their creator deity(that andraste later labeled the maker) that they themselves believed didn't interact with the world which is why they started worshiping the old gods who did.

 

What did they think they were going to do? Demand the creator make their gods answer them again?

 

Where exactly is this established again? It doesn't really jive with fact that Corypheus believed that Dumat had promised him power.

[Gervaise]

There have been many reasons given for the assault on the Golden City.    It would seem to have been a consistent belief that the Golden City was the realm of the gods/Maker, so whether you were seeking power, immortality or just trying to find out why the gods weren't answering you, that would be the logical place to go.   Even the elves believed that the Golden City was the realm of the Creators.    It is also noteworthy that in Drakon's vision of the end of the world, he describes the Black City as having 7 gates.  That would in fact be one for each god.   Is this what mages normally see when they look at the Black City, so he could have learned this from one of them?    Otherwise, it is odd that he would say there are 7 gates.    In the Canticle of Silence (author Hessarian) there is only one gate, just as there is only one Maker, although in Threnodies 5 (Andraste) it does speak of the Maker sealing the "gates" of the Golden City.

 

If Corypheus was responding to a promise of power from Dumat, did the latter urge him on because he wanted breaking free from his prison or was he deliberately urging his servant to his doom?    Was the throne of the city empty because the Maker had left or because the gods had been sealed away?     Did the Magisters going there cause it to turn black or was the corruption already there and the shining city merely an illusion that was shattered the moment they touched it?

[Ashagar]

Given its the nature of the fade the answer could be all of the above.