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[AlleluiaElizabeth]

What being the bad guy has to do with technology though? If we are behind in technology we can still send Thresher Maws spores to Khet hub worlds

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that is entertained as a military tactic. lol 

 

and if they ever leave their mom's basement they usually end up looking like this:

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so as long as the game had realistic consequences for such examples of organic waste, I'd be okay with it.
 

WOW. Ok, you could at least warn that that spoiler in your post is there to cover the graphic, real life images of two people shot to death and not for something mundane, like image size. Jeez, man.

[straykat]

edgelords who have such juvenile aspirations like being the "bad guy" IRL usually look like this:

and if they ever leave their mom's basement they usually end up looking like this:

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so as long as the game had realistic consequences for such examples of organic waste, I'd be okay with it.
 

 

Geez.. never seen that.

 

Is that the Klebold dude?

[Xen]

WOW. Ok, you could at least warn that that spoiler in your post is there to cover the graphic, real life images of two people shot to death and not for something mundane, like image size. Jeez, man.

But then it isn't as funny when the wannabe egdelords cry out how horrified they are at the real thing. They just want their murder fantasy to take out all of their misanthropic nerdrage and aggression on with pixel genocide.

personally, I'd rather have a somewhat serious narrative with choices that though practically or ideologically distinct, amount to more than juvenile "for teh evulzz" or "for gr8 justice" garbage. Real conflicts are composed of people with competing interests, not comic book heroes and villains.

 

Geez.. never seen that.

 

Is that the Klebold dude?

 

yep, both the Columbine kids actually. They just wanted to be the bad guy.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I like how in the Killzone games, the Helghast were actually the good guys. The ISA were the invadering bad guys. Kinda funny, the guys that look dark and like Nazis, are actually the good guys. Where as the rugged, colorful looking guys, are actually the bad guys.

If I remember correctly, the Helghast were actually the ones to start the major war on the ISA, under the leadership of the Scholar Visari. Hell they even nuked their own city near the end of the war so they're hardly what I'd call the good guys! I haven't played Shadowfall though so perhaps its changed a bit in the future. I agree though that they do look badass and have some sick melee animations in game!

[Onewomanarmy]

But then it isn't as funny when the wannabe egdelords cry out how horrified they are at the real thing. They just want their murder fantasy to take out all of their misanthropic nerdrage and aggression with on pixel genocide.

personally, I'd rather have a somewhat serious narrative with choices that though practically or ideologically distinct, amount to more than juvenile "for teh evulzz" or "for gr8 justice" garbage. Real conflicts are composed of people with competing interests, not comic book heroes and villains.

 

 

yep, both the columbine kids actually. They just wanted to be the bad guy.

 

Did you delete your post? I can't see it. Anyway, I gave you a like because of the way you wrote that, it was funny, not because I agreed. Cause I would actually like to try and be the really bad guy for once, perhaps more than just renegade, if I would feel okay with it while doing it or if I could actually play it out is another matter lol but I'd love to at least have the option. 

[Teabaggin Krogan]

But then it isn't as funny when the wannabe egdelords cry out how horrified they are at the real thing. They just want their murder fantasy to take out all of their misanthropic nerdrage and aggression with on pixel genocide.

personally, I'd rather have a somewhat serious narrative with choices that though practically or ideologically distinct, amount to more than juvenile "for teh evulzz" or "for gr8 justice" garbage. Real conflicts are composed of people with competing interests, not comic book heroes and villains.

 

 

yep, both the Columbine kids actually. They just wanted to be the bad guy.

Would you rather have them do it in real life and then kill themselves? Making a blanket statement about edgelords isn't helping either because I highly doubt that you know the details of everyone who posts here. I'm pretty sure there's more than a few people around here who's served on active duty and have seen their share of unpixelated aggression.

 

It also seems from your post that you're too tough to find public shootings horrifying. Thing is, its not about being tough though, more like having a bit of empathy. Also strange to see how you made the connection from wanting to play a villain role to that of being an edgelord who wants to be the bad guy and goes on a shooting spree. Like real life, it's more complicated than that and not a play such extremes. I also don't think that's what most of the people here were requesting for anyway.

 

Lol, look I'm not mad at your post or anything but it did seem like some erratic reasoning which I though I'd point out. Maybe go easy on that tequila eh..

[Master Warder Z_]

I would accept the role of a antagonist if that meant I got the best gear, equipment and motivation to be a character in a story.

 

Heck my favorite all time faction in fiction is a antagonistic faction primarily in the franchise.

 

 

I mean just check out the suits they rock, heads and shoulders better then any Feddie counterpart in terms of style.

[GoldenGail3]

Granddaughter. They loved each other.
 
The problem is that the personalities of Revan and Exile are different in SW:TOR. Revan is this broody emo who finally snaps and the Exile spent 300 years as a force ghost by his side, lending him her strength... out of love. Sorry, but my protagonists were different people. How the hell does this even work, with the Exile being in love with him? Did she cheat on him in KotOR2? Did she not love him enough to stay with him after Malachor? ... bleh.

My Exile and Revan were friends I suppose. But I sort of headcount its more of they bicker a lot because my Revan has a on and off switch for where she keeps Darth Revan at; and she's a good person. The Exile is also a Light Side user, so.... Yeah, the Exile is there just to sort of keep my Revan's impending evilness at bay..

[Master Warder Z_]

I'm not quite at that point yet..

 

I'd rather just see more AAA RPGs, so I can ignore Bioware easier.

 

I'd rather see more NA Gundam releases...

 

:/

 

But we both make do with what we have.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I'd rather see more NA Gundam releases...

 

:/

 

But we both make do with what we have.

I'd rather play Dark souls 3..

 

Oh well only a month more.

[Master Warder Z_]

I'd rather play Dark souls 3..

 

Oh well only a month more.

 

Eh you like those? Well at least your choice in franchise doesn't get kept solely to certain parts of the world making it impossible to purchase them without import.

 

For example Extreme VS.

 

 

A game I had to literally import from Japan and brush up on my Japanese merely to play it.

[Khrystyn]

..... BW can't seem to get rid of the old good/bad divide in an objective sense: the good guys must save the world from certain doom.

 

I hope BW one day recognize this is a childish attempt in portraying conflict. BW should go that extra mile to make the entire notion of good or bad purely subjective to the different actors point of view. Both us and our adversaries should act for what is to be perceived our vital interests. We aren't trying to save the world/galaxy and our adversaries DON'T want to destroy everything. We have different points of view and interests therefore we end up in conflict. We will define them evil as much as they will do with us. The game should treat our adversaries fairly and make their motives logic and reasonable as much as ours albeit opposed and mutually exclusive.

 

To sum up [my thoughts]: No one is good or bad in an objective sense and both our (us and the enemies) motives are based on reasonable ideas. Our definition of evil in relation to our adversaries is propaganda based on our point of view as much as our enemies definition. A conflict based on these premises will show that BW managed to evolve from the childish concept of absolute good vs absolute evil. Our world isn't made of absolutes but conflicting interests. BW is still treating its audience as children.

 

SolNebula,

 

So, what kind of interesting story plots are you suggesting where "no one is good or bad in an objective sense and both our (us and the enemies) motives are based on reasonable ideas (i.e. competing over vital interests)."

[Teabaggin Krogan]

Eh you like those? Well at least your choice in franchise doesn't get kept solely to certain parts of the world making it impossible to purchase them without import.

 

For example Extreme VS.

 

[snip]

 

A game I had to literally import from Japan and brush up on my Japanese merely to play it.

I've heard of gundam but I wasn't too interested in the whole giant robots thing much. Is it any good?

 

As for import troubles, no Dark Souls 3 apocalypse edition here!  

[straykat]

I still haven't played Dark Souls or DS 2. I own them actually, but still haven't gotten around to them.

 

I played Demon Souls though... it seems like no one even remembers that

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I still haven't played Dark Souls or DS 2. I own them actually, but still haven't gotten around to them.

 

I played Demon Souls though... it seems like no one even remembers that

Well if you liked Demon souls, you should play the other two. And don't forget to be online, that's when the real fun begins.

 

If you didn't like it, I'd still say give DS a shot.It might take some time to grow on ya but once it does, its worth it. But understandable if you hate it and don't wanna.

[straykat]

Well if you liked Demon souls, you should play the other two. And don't forget to be online, that's when the real fun begins.

 

If you didn't like it, I'd still say give DS a shot.It might take some time to grow on ya but once it does, its worth it. But understandable if you hate it and don't wanna.

 

I like it.. I didn't care for the multiplayer though. I just like good boss battles and settings like that. I just have too many games to play atm..

[AtreiyaN7]

No thanks to that idea - I don't want to be a jerk of a space conquistador and will be busy talking/negotiating with any sentient races that I meet like the rest of the reasonable and enlightened individuals that I hope most people are in the ME-verse. Unless the aliens in Andromeda are hostile and violent and decide to shoot on sight over resources, I'd much rather be making friends than enemies in a new galaxy.

 

1. There is no logic in starting a conflict when you're in the weakest possible position to start with, and I believe that we will be in a weak position because we aren't going to be getting warships or muskets (in this case spaceships and high-tech weaponry) from Spain (the Milky Way) to support our conquest of the New World (Andromeda).
2. I just think it would be terminally stupid to actively go looking for trouble and acting like a belligerent conqueror when you are completely cut off from help and further resources.
3. And then there's the issue of the alien races in Andromeda probably being either our technological equals or actually being technologically superior to us. Instead of being the conquistadors, we could very well be the unfortunate Aztecs/Inca/Mayans in your little analogy.

 

Also, you're talking about gambling with the survival of a lot of people (probably the last hope of their respective species in their minds since they won't have any clue how things turned out in ME3) who are relying on you to keep them safe for the sake of getting to play the bad guy. It doesn't make any sense from a story perspective to me and is decidedly reckless behavior as far as I'm concerned.

[DaemionMoadrin]

We definitely should take the Quarians with us. They know how to scavenge, scrounge and trade/beg for resources... and that's exactly what we will need to do to survive in a new galaxy.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I like it.. I didn't care for the multiplayer though. I just like good boss battles and settings like that. I just have too many games to play atm..

Ah but invading other people's games and killing them is almost addictively fun!

 

Seriously though you should try it, there's a lot of depth to it and there's a lot you can learn especially if you get to fight the more pvp oriented players. The community is also really nice and overall very helpful in my experience, despite what the general public might lead you to believe. I've had a lot of instances where people invaded my world randomly to kill me but we ended up just goofing and dancing around or maybe fighting the enemies together.  But I understand if multiplayer isn't really your thing.

[Killroy]

Question: Why does "going the extra mile" equate to making the PC the bad guy? Most games that put you in the role of the bad guy are quite crappy.

[straykat]

Ah but invading other people's games and killing them is almost addictively fun!

 

Seriously though you should try it, there's a lot of depth to it and there's a lot you can learn especially if you get to fight the more pvp oriented players. The community is also really nice and overall very helpful in my experience, despite what the general public might lead you to believe. I've had a lot of instances where people invaded my world randomly to kill me but we ended up just goofing and dancing around or maybe fighting the enemies together.  But I understand if multiplayer isn't really your thing.

 

I don't like people.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I don't like people.

Oh! hard to argue with that!

 

Also no, its a dark souls 2 gif, that armor is the classic DS2 one from the trailers. Also Solaire came after demon souls.

[malloc]

I have come across some cringey le dark side dialogue.
Kotor 2 : "Stay out my way or you will end up like these corpses."..... excuse me?

[DebatableBubble]

Granddaughter. They loved each other.
 
The problem is that the personalities of Revan and Exile are different in SW:TOR. Revan is this broody emo who finally snaps and the Exile spent 300 years as a force ghost by his side, lending him her strength... out of love. Sorry, but my protagonists were different people. How the hell does this even work, with the Exile being in love with him? Did she cheat on him in KotOR2? Did she not love him enough to stay with him after Malachor? ... bleh.

It was love in the platonic sense.

Anyway, I never really minded what they did to Revan. It was Kotor 2's fault for hyping them up so much anyway and I love that game to death over the first.

[straykat]

I don't even remember much of Kotor 2.. I need to play both again. I remember being pissed off about the end though.. and held a grudge against Obsidian for some time. Also NWN2 didn't help.