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[Andrew Lucas]

Not everyone approves of my skills, though.

You do want to take this conversation that way... don't you? I admit I almost did it

[Robert Cousland]

You do want to take this conversation that way... don't you? I admit I almost did it

 I have NO idea what you mean.

[ZipZap2000]

So I guess the OP is suggesting MEA is so bad it forced a woman to leave the whole game industry?

No, that was in another thread.

[Kabooooom]

It really does seem like everyone is jumping ship. Although, the game should be mostly done. Is this like, a common thing in game development? I feel like this has to be an exceptional number of people leaving a project.

[Andrew Lucas]

I have NO idea what you mean.

I bet you don't haha.

[pdusen]

It really does seem like everyone is jumping ship. Although, the game should be mostly done. Is this like, a common thing in game development? I feel like this has to be an exceptional number of people leaving a project.

 

It's not.

[Kabooooom]

It's not.

In that it is not a common thing, or in that it isn't a bunch of people leaving a particular project?

I'm not even being sarcastic. For once. I'm genuinely curious. This is probably the only game development that I have ever really closely followed out of interest. The previous mass effect games, I pretty much avoided all development news to avoid all spoilers. But after ME3's ending, I am being cautious with Andromeda. Cautiously optimistic.

[Spawnfreak73]

Bioware circling the drain. Will be sad to see it go.

[Sanunes]

In that it is not a common thing, or in that it isn't a bunch of people leaving a particular project?

I'm not even being sarcastic. For once. I'm genuinely curious. This is probably the only game development that I have ever really closely followed out of interest. The previous mass effect games, I pretty much avoided all development news to avoid all spoilers. But after ME3's ending, I am being cautious with Andromeda. Cautiously optimistic.

 

The problem is that a lot of people are combining all of the people leaving BioWare to people that are working on Andromeda.  Right now BioWare is four major studios working on four major projects and looking at the credits for each game there are a lot of people involved with developing a game.  Yes they have lost a couple of the long-term people, but at the same time it is more unusual for someone to stay at a studio that long then only a short period of time.

 

Think of game development as a stepped process and the design and writing areas are the first to be done, but if you look back there have been notable people leaving BioWare all the time and of course based on internet reports it has always been the herald of the destruction of the studio.  At least there haven't been the rumors like the ones from Bungie when they started to lose people a year out from the release of Destiny.

[LPPrince]

Bigger news to me was that Lionhead might get shuttered and in that case I didn't even care because my hopes for a Fable IV were never gonna be fulfilled anyway.

 

But this IS a lot of people leaving around the same time. I don't remember hearing about this many notable names leaving Bioware during the dev cycles of past games.

 

Wonder why its being reported now if not back then.

[Killroy]

In that it is not a common thing, or in that it isn't a bunch of people leaving a particular project?

I'm not even being sarcastic. For once. I'm genuinely curious. This is probably the only game development that I have ever really closely followed out of interest. The previous mass effect games, I pretty much avoided all development news to avoid all spoilers. But after ME3's ending, I am being cautious with Andromeda. Cautiously optimistic.

 

It hasn't been a bunch of people. What happens is that each time a person leaves BioWare it's blown way out of proportion here, making it seem like the sky is falling. This forum goes into doomsayer mode when someone leaves the Dragon Age team, acting like it impacts the development of MEA. Someone in middle management at the MEA studio leaves? Somehow that person was actually the game's director and now the sky is falling. The American writer who was brought in to lead the writing team leaves and goes back to America after roughly two years of working on the game? Somehow that means MEA is a lost cause and he's the canary in the coalmine. An American editor leaves the industry to pursue other career options back in America? The ship is going down, sheeple!

[Kabooooom]

The problem is that a lot of people are combining all of the people leaving BioWare to people that are working on Andromeda. Right now BioWare is four major studios working on four major projects and looking at the credits for each game there are a lot of people involved with developing a game. Yes they have lost a couple of the long-term people, but at the same time it is more unusual for someone to stay at a studio that long then only a short period of time.

Think of game development as a stepped process and the design and writing areas are the first to be done, but if you look back there have been notable people leaving BioWare all the time and of course based on internet reports it has always been the herald of the destruction of the studio. At least there haven't been the rumors like the ones from Bungie when they started to lose people a year out from the release of Destiny.

But wait, the last three people to have left, in as many months, were all specifically working on Andromeda though and were all noteworthy individuals.

It does make sense about stages of development though. The writing team would probably be more active during early to mid stages of development than later stages of development.

[ArabianIGoggles]

Kind of noticed I don't really use "game sites" for much anymore...

 

Not that I ever did, Nintendo Power magazine all the way!

Ah, Nintendo Power.  It was a simpler time, a better time. 

[Kabooooom]

It hasn't been a bunch of people. What happens is that each time a person leaves BioWare it's blown way out of proportion here, making it seem like the sky is falling. This forum goes into doomsayer mode when someone leaves the Dragon Age team, acting like it impacts the development of MEA. Someone in middle management at the MEA studio leaves? Somehow that person was actually the game's director and now the sky is falling. The American writer who was brought in to lead the writing team leaves and goes back to America after roughly two years of working on the game? Somehow that means MEA is a lost cause and he's the canary in the coalmine. An American editor leaves the industry to pursue other career options back in America? The ship is going down, sheeple!

Yeah that's true. Why would anyone want to live in Canada? Especially in the winter. I'd high tail it back to the states too.

[ArabianIGoggles]

Yeah that's true. Why would anyone want to live in Canada? Especially in the winter. I'd high tail it back to the states too.

They can't even get bacon right.  Can ya blame them?

[Killroy]

But wait, the last three people to have left, in as many months, were all specifically working on Andromeda though and were all noteworthy individuals.

It does make sense about stages of development though. The writing team would probably be more active during early to mid stages of development than later stages of development.

 

An editor that no has heard of(it took 2 days for anyone to notice her resignation on Twitter) and a member of middle management that no one had heard of(this forum and the gaming media kept calling him the game's director so clearly no one knew who he was) are now noteworthy individuals?

[pdusen]

In that it is not a common thing, or in that it isn't a bunch of people leaving a particular project?

 

It's not an exceptional number of people leaving.

[Sanunes]

But wait, the last three people to have left, in as many months, were all specifically working on Andromeda though and were all noteworthy individuals.

It does make sense about stages of development though. The writing team would probably be more active during early to mid stages of development than later stages of development.

 

Three people have left the Andromeda team, but the timeline is much greater.

 

Chris Schlerf left in September I believe, but gaming websites only noticed his Twitter post and incorrectly posted his departure date. Chris Wynn left very early this year.  Now Cameron Harris is leaving mid-April.  So in the period of eight months three people left the Andromeda team.

[Sanunes]

Yeah that's true. Why would anyone want to live in Canada? Especially in the winter. I'd high tail it back to the states too.

 

Winter in Ontario isn't too bad, but I wouldn't want to deal with the winter in Montreal.

[Kabooooom]

An editor that no has heard of(it took 2 days for anyone to notice her resignation on Twitter) and a member of middle management that no one had heard of(this forum and the gaming media kept calling him the game's director so clearly no one knew who he was) are now noteworthy individuals?

Noteworthy to the gaming media I suppose. The only reason I give any fucks at all is because other people seem to be giving a **** about it. Good to know they are overreacting.

[Kabooooom]

Winter in Ontario isn't too bad, but I wouldn't want to deal with the winter in Montreal.

It's 80 degrees where I live right now. I'm good staying far away from Canada.

[Sanunes]

Noteworthy to the gaming media I suppose. The only reason I give any fucks at all is because other people seem to be giving a **** about it. Good to know they are overreacting.

 

Attrition happens all the time. My favorite is when Christina Norman left BioWare, for when she was promoted to Gameplay Lead people were upset saying it was a sign of the end of the Mass Effect franchise and then when she left BioWare for Riot it was said again it was a sign of the end of the Mass Effect franchise.

[Killroy]

Noteworthy to the gaming media I suppose. The only reason I give any fucks at all is because other people seem to be giving a **** about it. Good to know they are overreacting.

 

The gaming media is worthless and most of the people on this forum don't bother to do any research of their own or think about things logically before vomiting through their keyboards.

[Kabooooom]

The gaming media is worthless and most of the people on this forum don't bother to do any research of their own or think about things logically before vomiting through their keyboards.

I only get my gaming news from this forum and those shows that have hot chicks as the announcers that act like they are all into gaming but probably aren't. I should probably branch out.

[pdusen]

The only reason I give any fucks at all is because other people seem to be giving a **** about it. 

 

That's pretty much why they do it.