64 réponses à ce sujet

[Sukai]

I'm caught between a male Human Noble and a male City Elf. I've decided to romance Zevran regardless of the toon I end up choosing, but I've heard both origins are very integrated into the overarching story, and after completing a playthrough as a Dalish Elf, I want to be able to start a story where I have more of a personal motivation in a few of the decisions I'm presented with. 
Which origin is more entertaining to play?
Oh, and I'm going to be a DW Rogue.
 

[sylvanaerie]

I'm caught between a male Human Noble and a male City Elf. I've decided to romance Zevran regardless of the toon I end up choosing, but I've heard both origins are very integrated into the overarching story, and after completing a playthrough as a Dalish Elf, I want to be able to start a story where I have more of a personal motivation in a few of the decisions I'm presented with. 
Which origin is more entertaining to play?
Oh, and I'm going to be a DW Rogue.
 

 

Since you already played an elf previously, and both CE and HN are both pretty connected to the story, it's a tough choice.  Considering other factors you explained in the other thread, (like you want to spare Loghain) you may want to play the HN.  A HN has more reason/roleplay sense to spare the regent who was selling elves to Tevinter blood mages than a man who actually loses family to that little bit of dirty dealing.

 

If you're going to do another playthrough after this, I'd recommend a female CE as their origin tale is by far the better of the two genders.  Usually Bioware doesn't do that much of a difference from genders but the female CE vs male has no comparison really.  Epic.

[Sukai]

Okay, thanks for your advice! I appreciate it a lot. :3 I guess the underdog role has always really appealed to me. I never normally play a human but I may give it a go just because I've heard a lot of positive feedback about it. As for playing a female, unfortunately for some reason I am never truly comfortable playing as one. I'm a girl irl, so you'd think it'd actually be easier, but roleplay for me is a lot more fun and in depth when I'm playing as something I can't be normally, so I'm always a male.

[sylvanaerie]

Okay, thanks for your advice! I appreciate it a lot. :3 I guess the underdog role has always really appealed to me. I never normally play a human but I may give it a go just because I've heard a lot of positive feedback about it. As for playing a female, unfortunately for some reason I am never truly comfortable playing as one. I'm a girl irl, so you'd think it'd actually be easier, but roleplay for me is a lot more fun and in depth when I'm playing as something I can't be normally, so I'm always a male.

 

Understandable.  Since I'm a girl, I relate better to females.  Since the origin is so epic (and that's where most of the differences in the male/female story come out in the CE), I'd recommend you try it as a female, at least for that small part (what's an hour anyway) and then you can always just delete her immediately after getting to Ostagar, and then make your boy to play.  Will give you a comparison of the two.  It's a great origin, but the female is really much better in it than the male.  Really badass.

 

If you like underdog's I recommend the Dwarf Commoner.  Male or female, that's an awesome origin and I love it almost as much as the City elf.

 

The nice part about Origins is the ability to play over and over to see different content.

 

I'd recommend even if you aren't planning on finishing all the stories at least doing each of the origins once to see what each beginning entails.  It also gives you insights into different roles, and the world of Thedas from that person's perspective is unique to all the origins.

[ArcadiaGrey]

If you haven't yet experienced being a human noble then you really must try it, it's nice to be recognised by other characters like Teagan and Loghain and give a more personal slant of the politics of Ferelden.

[straykat]

I like the female CE more if I just took the game alone into account, but there's a lot of parallels with legends of Shartan and various Trickster Warriors that make it work well for males. Like on some symbolic level, the "rebel elf" idea has often been a male. And it's funny if you play Awakening... where the legend has already grown to the point that there's yet another Male City Elf taking on the "Dark Wolf" moniker.

 

That said, all the origins are good imo. I can't say that for their other games. Do what you want

[Qun00]

You already went through the elf prejudice shtick with the Dalish origin. Human Noble should feel more like a fresh experience.

[straykat]

You already went through the elf prejudice shtick with the Dalish origin. Human Noble should feel more like a fresh experience.

 

I don't feel that at all with Dalish. They feel free and wild.. and I play aggressively (at least first), killing all of those humans in the first scene. The CE feels far more victimized.

[Qun00]

I don't feel that at all with Dalish. They feel free and wild.. and I play aggressively (at least first), killing all of those humans in the first scene. The CE feels far more victimized.

I mean the rest of the game. The blacksmith mistaking you for a servant, Goldanna being a racist ****** and other similar reactions. That's all the same.

[straykat]

I mean the rest of the game. The blacksmith mistaking you for a servant, Goldanna being a racist ****** and other similar reactions. That's all the same.

 

Ah OK...

 

Although I don't remember the blacksmith. Where's that?

[Myalzalean]

Personally I enjoyed the City Elf origin more than the Human Noble. There were too many times I felt like my characters last name should have been Stark instead of Cousland.

 

A dual wielding rogue just seems more befitting an elf whereas most Human Nobles in Thedas seem to be either Warriors or Archers.

 

And I think Qun00 was referring to the Quartemaster in Ostagar.

[straykat]

Personally I enjoyed the City Elf origin more than the Human Noble. There were too many times I felt like my characters last name should have been Stark instead of Cousland.

 

A dual wielding rogue just seems more befitting an elf whereas most Human Nobles in Thedas seem to be either Warriors or Archers.

 

And I think Qun00 was referring to the Quartemaster in Ostagar.

 

Oh yeah.. him. I thought he meant Wade or something.

 

Rogue was how I viewed CE for years.. but lately I've been rethinking of them as warriors.

[sylvanaerie]

Ah OK...

 

Although I don't remember the blacksmith. Where's that?

Ostagar.  Oops should have read down one post.

 

'd

[Qun00]

Oh yeah.. him. I thought he meant Wade or something.

Rogue was how I viewed CE for years.. but lately I've been rethinking of them as warriors.

Oh, CE definitely is a rogue. There is a trap item in your house's chest and you can get Adaia's dagger later on.

[straykat]

Oh, CE definitely is a rogue. There is a trap item in your house's chest and you can get Adaia's dagger later on.

 

There's traps everywhere. I mean, Cousland gets those in loot too. Besides that, traps and poisons were neutral skills. And the dagger came at a time when dual wielding was for both classes. I could also argue that "Fade Wall" shield blends well with a City Elf just as well as Fen'Harel's fang.. it's got the Fen'Harel symbol on it.

 

But in any case, you don't get the dagger anyways unless you killed Vaughn in the beginning. There's a compelling story (imHHo) if you let him live at first. To me anyways. I know that's an unpopular choice though.

 

Same goes for Dalish. Bioware's canon is a warrior, but yet Dalish hunters are taught the art of wood/bows/etc. Something impossible for a warrior now :\

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Noble Origin was very close to home for me, from origin story right down to the part where I become king and make Fereldan great again. I have no idea what the appeal is behind lower-class origins without the opportunity for a political power-trip. None whatsoever.

[straykat]

 make Fereldan great again.

 

You're almost making me want to play again.

[Qun00]

There's traps everywhere. I mean, Cousland gets those in loot too. Besides that, traps and poisons were neutral skills. And the dagger came at a time when dual wielding was for both classes. I could also argue that "Fade Wall" shield blends well with a City Elf just as well as Fen'Harel's fang.. it's got the Fen'Harel symbol on it.

But in any case, you don't get the dagger anyways unless you killed Vaughn in the beginning. There's a compelling story (imHHo) if you let him live at first. To me anyways. I know that's an unpopular choice though.

Same goes for Dalish. Bioware's canon is a warrior, but yet Dalish hunters are taught the art of wood/bows/etc. Something impossible for a warrior now :\

To this day, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea of a Dalish warrior. Sure, they had the emerald knights and all, but the physics are confusing.

A dual wielding warrior is conceivable, but shield+weapon? You gotta be strong to wield a shield effectively. I'm also aware that they have elven 2-handed weapons in DAO, which is even harder to imagine.

Another reason I prefer to play a Dalish rogue is that you get cool weapons like Falon'din's Reach and The Sorrows of Arlathan. There is no unique elven stuff for a Dalish warrior.

[straykat]

To this day, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea of a Dalish warrior. Sure, they had the emerald knights and all, but the physics are confusing.

A dual wielding warrior is conceivable, but shield+weapon? You gotta be strong to wield a shield effectively. I'm also aware that they have elven 2-handed weapons in DAO, which is even harder to imagine.

Another reason I prefer to play a Dalish rogue is that you get cool weapons like Falon'din's Reach and The Sorrows of Arlathan. There is no unique elven stuff for a Dalish warrior.

 

Sorrows is cool, but I delete all of my DLC stuff nowadays...just for story reasons.

 

Shartan was a shield warrior, which is why I've honed in on this. And legends say there may be many "Shartans", who are all some kind of "Trickster Warrior". It sounds like a Warrior and Rogue hybrid in a way.

 

For Dalish, it must be something in their skillset that makes it work, I guess. Part finesse and stance maybe.. not sheer strength. There's gotta be a reason why they had Knights, or Aveline was taught by them (the Aveline of legend I mean).

 

Besides that, I think Bioware focused heavily on warrior in DAO. They even say in their art book that DAO was the signature warrior game, DA2 the mage game, and they wanted DAI to lean on rogue.

[Sukai]

Thanks for all your advice guys. I couldn't end up deciding so I actually rolled out both. I don't know whether I'll play them both through to completion or not; we'll see, but I finished both origin stories and I actually preferred the City Elf. I mean, both were a little over-dramatic; but just being able to hunt down the bastards was extremely satisfying, whereas in the Noble origin you have to wait until near the end of the game to get your revenge, which is understandable but very irritating. Though I suppose that would make it all the sweeter when you plunge your sword into Howe's throat later, lmao. I think I'm in the very small minority that actually really enjoyed the Dalish Elf origin; besides the fact that it made you feel very detached from everything later on in the game, the story to me didn't feel forced or over the top, it was raw and emotional and far more believable. That being said, every origin I've played so far has been awesome. Dwarf Noble, Dalish Elf and City Elf are my favourites, personally, with Human Noble after that and the Mage origin last. I actually haven't played as a Dwarf Commoner yet, so I may give that a go and see how I like it.

[straykat]

Thanks for all your advice guys. I couldn't end up deciding so I actually rolled out both. I don't know whether I'll play them both through to completion or not; we'll see, but I finished both origin stories and I actually preferred the City Elf. I mean, both were a little over-dramatic; but just being able to hunt down the bastards was extremely satisfying, whereas in the Noble origin you have to wait until near the end of the game to get your revenge, which is understandable but very irritating. Though I suppose that would make it all the sweeter when you plunge your sword into Howe's throat later, lmao. I think I'm in the very small minority that actually really enjoyed the Dalish Elf origin; besides the fact that it made you feel very detached from everything later on in the game, the story to me didn't feel forced or over the top, it was raw and emotional and far more believable. That being said, every origin I've played so far has been awesome. Dwarf Noble, Dalish Elf and City Elf are my favourites, personally, with Human Noble after that and the Mage origin last. I actually haven't played as a Dwarf Commoner yet, so I may give that a go and see how I like it.

 

Dwarf Commoner is good too.. Especially if you like City Elf.

[Ghost Gal]

Thanks for all your advice guys. I couldn't end up deciding so I actually rolled out both. I don't know whether I'll play them both through to completion or not; we'll see, but I finished both origin stories and I actually preferred the City Elf. I mean, both were a little over-dramatic; but just being able to hunt down the bastards was extremely satisfying, whereas in the Noble origin you have to wait until near the end of the game to get your revenge, which is understandable but very irritating. Though I suppose that would make it all the sweeter when you plunge your sword into Howe's throat later, lmao. 

 

All of that is true. However, I must add my opinion that you get to double-dip the sweetness of revenge as a City Elf, since you not only get to plunge your blade into the bastards who wronged you in your origin during your origin, but later the City Elf will have reason to personally want revenge against Howe as well (because he purges the alienage, which sets the stage for Unrest in the Alienage), then you'll get to kill that b@st@rd too. 

 

I think I'm in the very small minority that actually really enjoyed the Dalish Elf origin; besides the fact that it made you feel very detached from everything later on in the game, the story to me didn't feel forced or over the top, it was raw and emotional and far more believable. That being said, every origin I've played so far has been awesome. Dwarf Noble, Dalish Elf and City Elf are my favourites, personally, with Human Noble after that and the Mage origin last. I actually haven't played as a Dwarf Commoner yet, so I may give that a go and see how I like it. 

 

If you like the City Elf Origin, I think you'll like the Dwarf Commoner Origin. 

[straykat]

I played my Female getting revenge on Vaughn right away.

 

But male wussed out... I had to try the variation. I'm gonna try it again on warrior. It's sad and ugly, but makes for a good story.

 

Also, the female survived the blight... Male killed himself. :\

[Sukai]

So many options! I was originally going to play my City Elf (Suledin; the Elvhen word for enduring sorrow;strength) as diplomatic and patient but somehow he's become a hotheaded fireball of sarcastic anger who REALLY dislikes humans unless they give him a reason to show they're not all like Vaughn. And I actually like him. Weird.

I will probably give the Dwarf Commoner origin a go then considering it has so many votes! Thanks again guys. :3

[straykat]

So many options! I was originally going to play my City Elf (Suledin; the Elvhen word for enduring sorrow;strength) as diplomatic and patient but somehow he's become a hotheaded fireball of sarcastic anger who REALLY dislikes humans unless they give him a reason to show they're not all like Vaughn. And I actually like him. Weird.

I will probably give the Dwarf Commoner origin a go then considering it has so many votes! Thanks again guys. :3

 

Awesome. Have fun..

 

I'm actually playing it again myself.. I said I was gonna spare Vaughn for later, but I'm gonna kill him right away. I forgot that Alarith won't sell you the skillbook later if you spare him.