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[Vit246]

It is known Spirits can become corrupted and turn to demons. I would like to see a Demon revert back to a spirit of a demon can become more human similar to Cole.

Nah. It wouldn't fit Dragon Age's tone.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

It is known Spirits can become corrupted and turn to demons. I would like to see a Demon revert back to a spirit of a demon can become more human similar to Cole.

Cole apparently was a demon briefly. Now he's back to being spirit, if he doesn't go human. Not to mention that you can turn the corrupted spirit in All New, Faded For Her back to her original self, though only briefly as she/it dies shortly afterwards.

 

 

Do we think Flemeth cares about passing on her godhood?  She doesn't have any to pass.  Mythal sure does though.

I'll give you all the snipped stuff, but as for this, I think part of it is that Flemeth wants to give Mythal's godhood to Morrigan. That seems like it could be a little of Flemeth's desires shining through.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Riversdaleswhiteflash:  I actually considered that as well after writing it - but still, do we think Morrigan could get it without Mythal's permission? 

 

Flemeth has multiple "daughters" for a reason one might expect.  

[Sah291]

@Riverdaleswhiteflash,
That seems possible. What reason would Mythal have to care about Morrigan in particular, considering she doesn't even want it, when she could use another daughter or find another willing girl?

@Medhia_Nox,
I doubt it. Probably a powerful mage could bind a spirit to themselves, but I doubt Morrigan is more powerful than Mythal... So I'm guessing not. Not just anyone would have been given access to Well either, so Mythal is likely picky about servants as well.

I think, seeing how spirits seem to be attracted to certain people for a reason, Flemeth and Mythal are probably on the same page. And if they ever weren't, it is probably lost past mattering. We saw in DA2, that if you don't try to force the issue, Anders and Justice just continue to merge more completely. Mythal/Flemeth is much older than that.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Cole apparently was a demon briefly. Now he's back to being spirit, if he doesn't go human. Not to mention that you can turn the corrupted spirit in All New, Faded For Her back to her original self, though only briefly as she/it dies shortly afterwards.

 

 

 

 

Spirits seem to possess a weak stability  since they can be easily altered by emotions, worse they become that emotion only.

I think that a good way to help mages is try to understand how to stabilize spirits  since they are the source of 70% of the problems

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

@Riversdaleswhiteflash:  I actually considered that as well after writing it - but still, do we think Morrigan could get it without Mythal's permission? 

 

Flemeth has multiple "daughters" for a reason one might expect.  

Fair.

 

 

Spirits seem to possess a weak stability  since they can be easily altered by emotions, worse they become that emotion only.

I think that a good way to help mages is try to understand how to stabilize spirits  since they are the source of 70% of the problems

Probably a good idea, but rather complicated by the fact that we're probably going to need to murder the person with the best understanding of the process next game, and the fact that even he doesn't really understand all the factors and possibilities.

[Secret Rare]

@Sah291:  Sometimes I think they believe that inconsistency is "grey area" - inconsistency is always bad.  

 

They have subverted so many aspects of their world since the beginning.

 

Example:  Mages can't telelport.  But as of DA2... because we wanted mages to teleport - we invented some BS about illusion magic.

 

Then there are aspects which are technically advances in the story - but seem subverted (which can be just as bad).

 

Example:  The Magisters probably did not cause the Blight.

 

I know they think that all this conversation is really good for their product... but all it really is are people who like Dragon Age making up their own versions of Dragon Age... maybe that's "being creative" for some people... I consider it being lazy.  

 

In writing... you're told to not waste time on things that don't support the story... it's not that we heard about the Magisters... it's that THEY'RE THE OPENING SCENE to DA:O and the first thing we encounter.  

 

If that story was false... then it's bad writing to put it so prominently.  It should have been just a codex entry or the conversation of some bit character. 

Being transported across spaces and distances instantly was impossible according to the body of traditions and knowledge we received from DAO yet the Eluvians are in fact magical teleporters.

Dragon age has this aspect which 'm not particularly fond of in which there is little room for detailed examination of the elements and structure of it's lore as a basis for discussions or interpretations.

Being an "expert" means that you know in the hope that the writers will not correct you through their own revelations.

[Secret Rare]

I could believe that, but it sounds like a stretch. Where are you getting that from?

From her own words and the fact that for Solas she is not Flemeth she is only Mythal.

She acted as if she knew Solas called him "old friend" despite Flemeth was no even around during Arlathan age.

The bond between her and Mythal is so deep that Mythal became her and she became Mythal,i think is a similar situation of the red lyrium dragon.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

 

From her own words

I don't remember those words. Could you go into more detail?

 

 

 

and the fact that for Solas she is not Flemeth she is only Mythal.

She acted as if she knew Solas called him "old friend" despite Flemeth was no even around during Arlathan age.

All of that could be just as easily explained as Mythal being pretty much entirely in control.

[Secret Rare]

I don't remember those words. Could you go into more detail?

 

 

 

 No more separated than your heart from your chest

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

 No more separated than your heart from your chest

That could as easily mean that Flemeth needs her to survive as it could mean that there is no distinction between the two. And having looked it up Flemeth certainly seems to draw a distinction.

[myahele]

On the subject of Flemythal, I wonder if the possession of her daughters bodies isn't really about longevity/immortality, but just something more like a "tradition" 

 

We see Zathrian who's immortal (long life) via binding a Spirit ... surely a merger of a spirit (immortal or in this case a "god") will make Flemeth immortal the same way Zathrian was?

[In Exile]

Nah. It wouldn't fit Dragon Age's tone.

 

It totally fits the tone. Solas straight up tells you that whether a Fade being (for lack of a better word) is a spirit or demon is (or was, back in the pre-Veil days) a matter of how they were viewed. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

He also clearly recognized that his spirit friend was twisted into a different kind of being that he called a demon and he also mentions learning to defend himself from the more aggressive denizens of the fade, so I interpreted what he said more as that being the case for some of them.