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@Huldra send me a PM so I can take a look, please. I'm still feelng a little icky and I could use the distraction.
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I"m not sure it'll be a good distraction but I'll send you a pm of it in just a minute.
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Thank you, dear! So many lovely supportive people here. I'm grateful.
Lovely folks is the reason I've stuck around here after the DAI hype went down. Feels good to pass that support around and I do hope things get better for you soon *hugs*
Another minor vent, just found a good size blood stain on my blankets. No idea how it got there and can't seem to find where on me is bleeding, doesn't hurt so I'm not worried, I'm more annoyed by the fact I just washed that blanket less than a week ago.
Sorry to hear everyone is going through some stuff at the moment. And these idiotic threads certainly don't help.
BSN to me used to be an escape from people and dramas irl, place you could go to have a bit of fun. But now as each day goes by I find myself caught between laughing my arse off and wanting to strangle somebody through the monitor. With the exception of one thread and various groups I participate in.
There were stupid disruptive threads before the closing of OT. If anything I suspect Off Topic gave those with a mind for that sort of thing a place to hang out between fights. Closing it now means they all flood onto the main boards, but I don't think leaving it open is really a better solution.
<hugs> I hear you. I have the theory that most of the truly moronic or trolling threads are a form of passive-aggressive protest against the closing of OT. I never posted there, but I can see the effects throughout the forums. That was one of the most short-sided moves that I think the actual forum heads could have made. They really need to bring it back. I also have the suspicion that they got rid of OT to encourage more groups.
Yeah...I don't think that worked out as well for them as they thought it would. Between that and the reactionary mods, it isn't a great place right now. I do still love discussing BW games, especially ME and DA. To be honest, I mainly come back for some folks that I enjoy hanging out with. Thankfully, the members of this group qualify.
I'm sorry about your house, Gomez. I really hope it doesn't come to that. 
By the way guys, I think we can feel free to name specific threads, especially if we aren't leveling personal criticism at the OP. Expressing a discontent with the tone/path the thread has taken should be more than fine.
The gay badass thread has gone through some nonsense throughout it's lifespan.
No idea though.. I was thinking, lack of info in Andromeda could be the problem as well.
But then I thought twice.
What info will be given in the near future will just be more ammo for stupidity.
I'm convinced that no matter what kind of game they deliver, there will be some epic temper tantrums. I can't think of a single consensus this fan base has reached for what they want out of it.
@Sardukar You have a good point, but I'm stuck trying to figure out a decent alternative to re-opening OT. I know there has always been those kinds of threads and posts, but they are a lot more prevalent. Do you (or anyone in the group) have any ideas?
There's always been a problem in that between games there's nothing to talk about. You go to the forums to talk about the games, make friends, then don't want to leave between the lulls because of habits and friends but there's nothing to do.
Part of me wonders if forums like this have had their day and the logical thing is to nuke the site from orbit and use twitter. Which I kind of hate as an idea, but times change.
I think BioWare needs to be more invested in the forums to make them work, but I don't know how you'd go about making that happen.
Another minor vent, just found a good size blood stain on my blankets. No idea how it got there and can't seem to find where on me is bleeding, doesn't hurt so I'm not worried, I'm more annoyed by the fact I just washed that blanket less than a week ago.
Was it close to where your face might have been? It's always possible you could have had a nosebleed in your sleep.
There's always been a problem in that between games there's nothing to talk about. You go to the forums to talk about the games, make friends, then don't want to leave between the lulls because of habits and friends but there's nothing to do.
Part of me wonders if forums like this have had their day and the logical thing is to nuke the site from orbit and use twitter. Which I kind of hate as an idea, but times change.
I think BioWare needs to be more invested in the forums to make them work, but I don't know how you'd go about making that happen.
Eww twitter. It's just so horrible to use.
I'd like if Bioware got more in touch with forums, it's like they have abandoned the place. I get that they don't like the negativity and so on, but I think there would be less negativity if Bioware had people actually communicating with players in terms of bugs and feedback. The feedback section of DAI barely got visited by devs and EA help didn't get anywhere either and I think that just rose up negativity towards devs in general.
And now I'm venting about DAI and Bioware, but I guess it fits to thread? ^^; Not trying to make this thing though, I could vent about Bioware and DAI days- and I would rather now forget both and focus on ME:A
Eww twitter. It's just so horrible to use.
I'd like if Bioware got more in touch with forums, it's like they have abandoned the place. I get that they don't like the negativity and so on, but I think there would be less negativity if Bioware had people actually communicating with players in terms of bugs and feedback. The feedback section of DAI barely got visited by devs and EA help didn't get anywhere either and I think that just rose up negativity towards devs in general.
And now I'm venting about DAI and Bioware, but I guess it fits to thread? ^^; Not trying to make this thing though, I could vent about Bioware and DAI days- and I would rather now forget both and focus on ME:A
I don't think it is so much the tone here, as it is just the reality that Twitter and Facebook dominate social media. Both have sort of made forums an aging relic, and Bioware probably reaches many more people on those two sites than they would here.
That said, Bioware is somewhat unique in that's effectively abandoned the official forums entirely and doesn't always repost official announcements here. It's telling when the fans need to have a Twitter thread to repost announcements or released concept art and such, that otherwise would never have ended up on the BSN. Other developers tend to be a bit more active on their official forums.
I don't think it is so much the tone here, as it is just the reality that Twitter and Facebook dominate social media. Both have sort of made forums an aging relic, and Bioware probably reaches many more people on those two sites than they would here.
That said, Bioware is somewhat unique in that's effectively abandoned the official forums entirely and doesn't always repost official announcements here. It's telling when the fans need to have a Twitter thread to repost announcements or released concept art and such, that otherwise would never have ended up on the BSN. Other developers tend to be a bit more active on their official forums.
I guess. I just prefer forums to those two, you can miss lot of stuff from Twitter and Facebook feed when in forums you can see the post forever and it's easy to find.
It's bit weird to not get information here in forums from devs that's true. I guess Bioware has blog page for those who don't have time to constantly check their twitter feed or don't have twitter, but it's still odd choice to not share anything here and just rely on fans to get information across to other fans.
Eww twitter. It's just so horrible to use.
It's not that I want them to use twitter, it's that at present they're not using the forums. Things have changed since developers stared having game forums and now there's a bunch of way people interact online rather than turning up to one place with an alias.
Yeah, threads are fine
After all, some of us have been drinking to them for over a year now.
I'm super glued to my bar stool. Long live the Drinkquisition!
Found out what caused the blood stains this morning, looks like my surgical cut reopened again. So close to being closed up as well, went from being a hole the size of about a needle head to one the size of a nickle.
The gay badass thread has gone through some nonsense throughout it's lifespan.
Is this the thread Dave and Gomez were referring to? I dropped out a few days ago, but was still checking it occasionally for certain posters I like to read. And frankly, there is negativity on both sides. It's really frustrating when you agree with someone in principle, but the anger with which they make their point (while understandable in some cases) is such a turn off that you just want to avoid them altogether. And I don't understand why it has to devolve into that. Why can't the threads remain positive statements of, "I would really like to see this," and, "My ideal character is such-and-such," without feeling the need to say, "No more walking stereotypes." It is divisive language.
I suppose I should be happy I wasn't on the board last night when Dave was, as I likely would have been checking the thread.
Part of me wonders if forums like this have had their day and the logical thing is to nuke the site from orbit and use twitter. Which I kind of hate as an idea, but times change.
I think BioWare needs to be more invested in the forums to make them work, but I don't know how you'd go about making that happen.
I hope they don't go the Twitter route. I don't want to come off like I'm a complete luddite, but I'm barely on twitter or FB. I was fairly active on FB, until my half sister starting publicly trashing my mom.
You have no idea how ENRAGED I would be if this happened. It's bad enough that they have unofficially abandoned them, but to officially do so as well, in favor of a third party (!!!) platform that is restricted by character number and doesn't actually allow for active discussion would be just...
Bioware is a AAA gaming company, not some inde developer that doesn't have the resources for a proper forum.
I think BioWare needs to be more invested in the forums to make them work, but I don't know how you'd go about making that happen.
I get their choice to abandon in the face of abuse. I mean, one time Allan was told he should have been aborted. Wtf?
But there ARE decent, thoughtful posters and discussion threads on here, and it really is the case of punishing the entire player base for the actions of a few.
One of the things they could do is have a no tolerance policy for certain behavior, like name calling and whatnot, and use the warning point system. Get enough points and you are banned, end of discussion. These are private boards and they have the full right to do that.
Ugh I feel guilty about the badass thread, since it's my vaguely worded comment about homophobia in a fictional word that was actually about Witcher but got interpreted as one about Thedas that started that mess. I really didn't want to start that discussion, since I know how it usually ends.
Explaining to someone how a situation like that with a parent can be damaging and how, what is essentially a metaphor for conversion therapy (or transorbital lobotomy, which was for some years a 'treatment' for homosexuality) can completely destroy a person is just impossible. You have to go through it to really realize how it feels.
Still, it's good that Gomez (and 2 other people) kept up with the conversation, because I couldn't without involving emotions.
(also Gomez, thanks for adding me )
And more on subject with the last comments, I'm also camp 'please don't make me use twitter/fb.' I don't even have twitter, and my fb usage is limited to the messenger. I prefer a separate space, but BW should really do moderation better.
Well, great. Now I have to go read it if you got into all that.
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Well, that whole thing was disturbing. But that is one of the reasons I never comment on Dorian anymore in relation to these issues; that is, trying to convince people of a certain point. I've done it over and over again since the game was released and I don't have the patience to do so anymore.
But I applaud everyone in the thread who tried.
I will say one thing though, in relation to vbibbi's recent remark (no, I don't consider this to be 'calling the person out' or anything, simply referential),
On the Dorian personal quest, it's not even necessarily that I see it as homophobic in a setting where it's unnecessary, it's that it feels like it wasn't designed for gay players to have a romance suited for them, but as a gay proxy for straight players. I'm sure the writers didn't mean it that way and Gaider would fight tooth and nail against this characterization, but the message feels worn out and repetitive to someone who is gay and has lived similar experiences or seen lots of gay films with the same content.
His message seems to resonate better with people who haven't lived that experience or are familiar with the story in their own lives. And I'm slightly resentful that such a big deal was made over the first official gay male companion when he's a tired trope rather than a person who happens to be gay.
While I do understand it, I think it is an unfortunate view, one that seems largely due to the fact that the gay players who liked the character's representation, his story, and felt that it spoke to them on a personal level, don't actually post on the boards anymore. I know of at least two gay men in the Dorian thread who just faded away from posting. David Gaider also remarked about the various positive messages he got from gay players.
So while I get the point vbibbi is trying to make, it should also be stated that queer people don't have some sort of hive mind and all like the same thing, even down to the representation of queer people in entertainment.
As a straight person, I suppose my opinion doesn't matter in this case, but that is how I feel nonetheless.
Of course, I do agree 100% with, "And I'm slightly resentful that such a big deal was made over the first official gay male companion when he's a tired trope rather than a person who happens to be gay." Even though I adore the character, his story is not something I expected from Dragon Age (as in, its inclusion was surprising), and do generally think that the best types of representation are people who happen to be whatever thing. "Othering" is bad and can ultimately defeat the purpose of representation in the first place.
But in the end, I do hope that Bioware continues with their trend of representation, for both followers in general and with the romances, and I think the games will ultimately be better for them.
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