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[Donquijote and 59 others]

If you didn't understood the title don't worry about that.

Whenever i see a cameo of a character that i thought was  gone for good i have a similar reaction that  obviously endanger the monitor's life

Spoiler

This was especally true during the gotcha moment of the  "well,well what have we here"

i was like "My lord Maker,no please,not this again..the same words....."

Oh DAI gave me plenty of these moments,it is difficult to drink while playing this game

Could Bioware just release two versions of the game,a normal version for the new players and one with the  fan service  sticker included on the cover for those who like this toxic swamp of cameos

Alistair

Leliana

Morrigan

Cullen

Varric

Flemeth

Could you all just mind your business far,far away from my heroes?

Let us hope that DA4 will be the Oasis against these unpleasant   surprises.

 

 

[AlanC9]

As usual with this poster, I have no idea what the actual problem is.

[AresKeith]

As usual with this poster, I have no idea what the actual problem is.

 

It's hard to speak trollnese 

[Donquijote and 59 others]

As usual with this poster, I have no idea what the actual problem is.

Lol  overexposure of characters that's the problem

[daveliam]

While I agree that there are some cameos that just feel tacked on and forced, it's kind of hard for the developers to tell a story with continuity if there aren't clear connecting threads between the games.  And returning characters are a great way to do that.  But, I will say that some of them (like Zevran's cameo in DA2) are just a little silly.  Less of them, but better quality for the ones that happen, maybe?

[Donquijote and 59 others]

While I agree that there are some cameos that just feel tacked on and forced, it's kind of hard for the developers to tell a story with continuity if there aren't clear connecting threads between the games.  And returning characters are a great way to do that.  But, I will say that some of them (like Zevran's cameo in DA2) are just a little silly.  Less of them, but better quality for the ones that happen, maybe?

Agree but not of characters that already had plenty in screen-time

[SonnyKohler]

 

If you didn't understood the title don't worry about that.

Whenever i see a cameo of a character that i thought was  gone for good i have a similar reaction that  obviously endanger the monitor's life

Spoiler

This was especally true during the gotcha moment of the  "well,well what have we here"

i was like "My lord Maker,no please,not this again..the same words....."

Oh DAI gave me plenty of these moments,it is difficult to drink while playing this game

Could Bioware just release two versions of the game,a normal version for the new players and one with the  fan service  sticker included on the cover for those who like this toxic swamp of cameos

Alistair

Leliana

Morrigan

Cullen

Varric

Flemeth

Could you all just mind your business far,far away from my heroes?

Let us hope that DA4 will be the Oasis against these unpleasant   surprises.

 

Doesn't it kind of make sense that some of these folks showed up again given the context?  I mean Cass & Varric because of the war.  Leliana & Cass because the Divine was killed.  Cullen, Varric & Cass because they were at Kirkwall, etc...  Even Hawke made some sense.

 

I agree that I didn't see a need for Morrigan or Flemeth (although I do love both of them). 

 

Given that it's only been about 10 years since Origins and a very short time since Kirkwall, why wouldn't they show up again?

 

I'm confused by your post.  Wouldn't they have to come up with a completely unrelated storyline to even be able to get rid of all these people?

[SonnyKohler]

Lol  overexposure of characters that's the problem

Well, you don't have to get in a romance with them.  That's the only time they're "overexposed" to me.  Okay, with the exception of how bad Cullen is at Wicked Grace (strip version).

[Fiskrens]

I thought the reuse of "Well, well..." was intentional.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I thought the reuse of "Well, well..." was intentional.

From the writers part since those are the same words the character said in DAO,who know maybe they used the same audio file XD

 

Doesn't it kind of make sense that some of these folks showed up again given the context?  I mean Cass & Varric because of the war.  Leliana & Cass because the Divine was killed.  Cullen, Varric & Cass because they were at Kirkwall, etc...  Even Hawke made some sense.

 

I agree that I didn't see a need for Morrigan or Flemeth (although I do love both of them). 

 

Given that it's only been about 10 years since Origins and a very short time since Kirkwall, why wouldn't they show up again?

 

I'm confused by your post.  Wouldn't they have to come up with a completely unrelated storyline to even be able to get rid of all these people?

Hey wasn't the premise of this franchise to be about Thedas?

Instead they wrote the story of this game to be intrinsically tied with the same characters.

Cullen is unnecessary he wasn't even a commander he was just a templar,surely there were other new people that could have replaced him or Leli but at least his role is vital just as the one of Leliana.

 

Morrigan and Alistair however were there exclusively for fan service.

[AresKeith]

Hey wasn't the premise of this franchise to be about Thedas?

Instead they wrote the story of this game to be intrinsically tied with the same characters.

Cullen is unnecessary he wasn't even a commander he was just a templar,surely there were other new people that could have replaced him or Leli but at least his role is vital just as the one of Leliana.

 

Morrigan and Alistair however were there exclusively for fan service.

 

 

What are you even talking about?

[Phoe77]

Adjusting Keep setting could eliminate some of the cameos.  That's good enough for me. 

[Ieldra]

 

From the writers part since those are the same words the character said in DAO,who know maybe they used the same audio file XD

 

Hey wasn't the premise of this franchise to be about Thedas?

Instead they wrote the story of this game to be intrinsically tied with the same characters.

Cullen is unnecessary he wasn't even a commander he was just a templar,surely there were other new people that could have replaced him or Leli but at least his role is vital just as the one of Leliana.

 

Morrigan and Alistair however were there exclusively for fan service.

Regardless of what the story is about, it's always characters who carry it. As for who is most or least suitable for continung appearances, that's not so easy to determine. IMO Morrigan had an integral role in the story as well as being its narrator, as far as DAI's story has one. Alistair as king was perfectly appropriate, and Alistair or Loghain as as Wardens, I don't know where the problem is since they were our - the players' - main connection to the Wardens apart from our protagonist in DAO. From my point of view, it was Varric who was most superfluous, and both Cullen and Leliana could've easily been someone else since they didn't connect us with important factions.

[vertigomez]

I think the PC is overexposed. Always hogging the cover art to themselves, getting their ugly mug in EVERY cutscene...

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Adjusting Keep setting could eliminate some of the cameos.  That's good enough for me. 

Are you suggesting that i have to push the murdering button in the keep?But that doesn't even work in most cases,well at least it works with Alistair.

[Iakus]

I'd be perfectly happy if each game had a completely new cast of characters and minimal/no baggage carried over from game to game.

 

Sadly, this is probably an unrealistic dream I have.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I think the PC is overexposed. Always hogging the cover art to themselves, getting their ugly mug in EVERY cutscene...

Ehy how i play without a PC  ?They must be overexposed

Regardless of what the story is about, it's always characters who carry it. As for who is most or least suitable for continung appearances, that's not so easy to determine. IMO Morrigan had an integral role in the story as well as being its narrator, as far as DAI's story has one. Alistair as king was perfectly appropriate, and Alistair or Loghain as as Wardens, I don't know where the problem is since they were our - the players' - main connection to the Wardens apart from our protagonist in DAO. From my point of view, it was Varric who was most superfluous, and both Cullen and Leliana could've easily been someone else since they didn't connect us with important factions.

Morrigan is integral for what  in Inquisition?

She just inserted herself into the organization and on some meetings of the inquisitor without the player's consent.

Did i really need to see Alistair again if Stroud is always alive and suitable for the quest no matter what?At least this time they didn't put drunk Alistair for no reason into a tavern.

[Phoe77]

Are you suggesting that i have to push the murdering button in the keep?But that doesn't even work in most cases,well at least it works with Alistair.

 

I'm not suggesting that you have to.  I'm saying that using the Keep can reduce the amount of cameos that you experience, especially from side characters.  If you make him king and decide to do Champions of the Just then I don't think you ever get more than a couple of letters from Alistair.  

 

What is perhaps more important is that the Keep can be used to make it very likely that the next game doesn't have many cameos.  If Isabella is taken by the Arishok or if Blackwall is never recruited or left in jail (I shudder to think of such a travesty), then it's not as likely that they'll show up in future games.  It's obviously not certain, but that's part of the reason why the Keep exists.

[Secret Rare]

While I agree that there are some cameos that just feel tacked on and forced, it's kind of hard for the developers to tell a story with continuity if there aren't clear connecting threads between the games.  And returning characters are a great way to do that. 

I didn't had any connections in DAO everything was new and fine.

This should be the story told during an Age yes? So why the need of returning charaters?

[Phoe77]

I didn't had any connections in DAO everything was new and fine.

This should be the story told during an Age yes? So why the need of returning charaters?

 

Maybe there isn't a need, strictly speaking, but it's not very farfetched to assume that people who were influential in one event of a certain age may also be influential in another event in that same age.  If nothing else, the endorsement from a celebrated hero could do wonders for an organization's reputation.  

[Secret Rare]

Maybe there isn't a need, strictly speaking, but it's not very farfetched to assume that people who were influential in one event of a certain age may also be influential in another event in that same age.  If nothing else, the endorsement from a celebrated hero could do wonders for an organization's reputation.  

Well this make the world very small and poor.

[AresKeith]

 

I didn't had any connections in DAO everything was new and fine.

This should be the story told during an Age yes? So why the need of returning charaters?

 

 

Did you really just try to use the very first game as an example?

[straykat]

Did you really just try to use the very first game as an example?

 

Funny as that is, even DAO drew upon the books. So we'd have to go all the way back there to get a fresh start

 

Maric, Loghain, Wilhelm, etc..

[Secret Rare]

Did you really just try to use the very first game as an example?

and why not?

 

Funny as that is, even DAO drew upon the books. So we'd have to go all the way back there to get a fresh start

 

Maric, Loghain, Wilhelm, etc..

Those books were wrote after DAO

[straykat]

and why not?

 

Those books were wrote after DAO

 

No, they weren't. They were released before, as preps before launch. Both the Calling and Stolen Throne.