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[Quarian Master Race]

Even if you chose to activate Legion you could still side against it.

So what if it's done so reluctantly? Via autodialouge, Shep still calls the platform a "friend" and constantly apologizes to it when trying to tell it that Reaper code upgrades =/= life. Hell, they even apologize to the bloody Geth VI, which is about as subtle as a terminator in regard to what it thinks of organics. Why should I say "I'm sorry" to a broken blender before I throw it in the dumpster?

 

Oh yea, because the options opposed to personifying AI were pointless, halfway serious filler choices for after you'd already played the real, "robots are people" story the writers wrote for you.

 

"So did your pistol, should I worry about its feelings as well?" was an attitude reserved only for villainous "racists", not a legitimate position for one to support or roleplay. Biower assumed no one would play such an openly reprehensible(to them) character outside of as a joke like KotOR's dark side path (which was basically what "Renegade" options were according to at least 1 interview I remember). 

[Seboist]

Weddings are proms for adults, i have no interested in them IRL, let alone in a game.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I would love this, at least as an option since I know others may not. I've always wanted to be able to marry one of my LIs, and holding a memorial service for a companion/NPC that you like would be nice rather.

[tesla21]

-snip

Relevant username.

 

Jokes aside, I would like the *choice* to mourn fallen companions, funerals sound like too much work but I would at least like to be able to express my grief when an important character dies, it's so frustrating when the game has some hearthbreaking moment and Shepard is just like: "yeah... alright".

 

No more auto grief like over that damned kid, ever. But also give me at least one or two conversations where the main character has a wide array of reactions to each big loss like: 

 

-People die in war, we move on.

-I will murder them, I swear I will make them pay!

-It's my fault! I could've done more, (s)he derserved better :´( *hugs* 

-Let (s)he be remember, this is why we fight *does epic inspirational speech*

-Serves him right stupid pyjack, I have no use for the weak. 

-etc. 

 

(please ignore my terrible writing, I am just trying to convey the idea.)

[NKnight7]

Trespasser had weddings in Dragon Age so I don't see the harm in it, it could always be an option for those who aren't interested in it. Funerals could be interesting, reminds me of the little memorial service you can have for Thane in the Citadel DLC.

[Master Warder Z_]

@Master Warder Z:  So... you're saying only soldiers have funerals?  

 

In the scene presented its a Zeon soldier, a captain specifically but more then that's a member of the royal family of the duchy of Zeon.

 

He's posthumously promoted to Vice Admiral after his death in North America so obviously his funeral was going to be a big deal back in the Zeon homeland.

 

 

For example Master Warder Z sees a funeral as a good time to make speeches and boost morale... I do not. 

 

I merely stated you could use them for that purpose to good effect, not that was all you could do with them, but if a conflict is bogging down into a stalemate, rallying the troops at a funeral is one surefire way to make them see the gravity of the war fully and not be deluded by propaganda and idle notions of peace.

 

Crud I'd argue personally that rallying the troops before a major battle is more important then saying your piece at a funeral but both are viable forums and both can be employed.

 

 

For example Gihren Zabi rallying the forces of Zeon in defense of their final space fortress at A Baoa Qu, the final defensive line before the Zeon homeland itself of Side Three. He starts off by assuring them of their victory due to his own strategic use of a weapon of mass destruction that resulted in the destruction of the majority of the Federal forces, he reminds them of their cause, their superiority, their need for victory. He then concludes it with a valiant promise of triumph, all in all its a textbook way to deliver a effect speech and when given by a master orator it can be truly impressive.

[ZipZap2000]

For Legion? Considering that every Shepard (also Tali) in every playthrough which activates it is already autodialouged into "him" being your beloved brobot and putting it on the wall no matter how you (both) treated it in ME2, and hardly anyone in the playerbase cares, I don't think there'd be much controversy. Legion wasn't a favourite for me (ME3 version was quite the opposite in fact), but it's obvious Shepard and at least a couple others (Tali, EDI) are close to it regardless, unless you just never activate it. They should do something to display they care more about it than a token line or two before getting back to comedy routines.

A simple "We lost another friend (or two) today." Moment would be fine.


@Op full blown wedding and funerals are too much. Unless you plan on having Kai Leng clones burst through the roof to kill your spouse and triggering the reckoning of all reckonings.

[echoness]

The game might be called The Sims: Andromeda then I will buy it.

 

Just kidding.

 

Weddings and funerals (and kids in another thread)are side benefits that serve narrative purpose, they can make story memorable but not quite necessary, especially everything about game development comes down to money.

[Riven326]

So what if it's done so reluctantly? Via autodialouge, Shep still calls the platform a "friend" and constantly apologizes to it when trying to tell it that Reaper code upgrades =/= life. Hell, they even apologize to the bloody Geth VI, which is about as subtle as a terminator in regard to what it thinks of organics. Why should I say "I'm sorry" to a broken blender before I throw it in the dumpster?

 

Oh yea, because the options opposed to personifying AI were pointless, halfway serious filler choices for after you'd already played the real, "robots are people" story the writers wrote for you.

 

"So did your pistol, should I worry about its feelings as well?" was an attitude reserved only for villainous "racists", not a legitimate position for one to support or roleplay. Biower assumed no one would play such an openly reprehensible(to them) character outside of as a joke like KotOR's dark side path (which was basically what "Renegade" options were according to at least 1 interview I remember). 

My shep didn't call it a friend.

[Original Mako]

Cut-scenes and dialogue pools do not a fun game make.

[tesla21]

Cut-scenes and dialogue pools do not a fun game make.

Disagreed.

[Catastrophy]

What would a Western (Andromeda is to the West, no?) be without the shoot-out at the wedding and the funeral. I'm for it.

[LineHolder]

Maybe we don't need to nuke the word budget with 80 funerals, but that deaths are barely even acknowledged by anyone most of the time is really disconcerting. I mean, a friend and comrade of theirs for in some cases 2-3 years dies horribly and everyone's just hanging in the kitchen cooking or playing cards? Lets not even get into Commander Brick not having any real option to give a **** unless it's some random kid or asari dying. Makes them feel less like actual people and more like intentionally expendable pixels, when the point of the narrative should be the opposite.

 

At least Miranda gets a single person distraught and drinking to her memory, and Thane gets his due in DLC. Mordin, Wrex, Tali, either VS, Legion, Kasumi, Samara, Jack, Zaeed, Jacob? Ha, literally noone cares about those losers(inb4 Jacob). Let's go play some snooker and engage in party shenanigans, gaise.

 

I didn't take you for the sentimental type, Admiral.

[Onewomanarmy]

It doesn't need to be dragged out but something short perhaps, a short memorial, not funeral cause that could be too heavy with many people dying at once imo but a short memorial as an option perhaps if our character desires to attend one and then also the option to marry certain LI's like in Trespasser, also done shortly.

[Catastrophy]

It doesn't need to be dragged out but something short perhaps, a short memorial, not funeral cause that could be too heavy with many people dying at once imo but a short memorial as an option perhaps if our character desires to attend one and then also the option to marry certain LI's like in Trespasser, also done shortly.

And cake - there always needs to be cake after funeral.I hear some cultures prefer alcoholic beverages and I'm OK with that, too. I'd like some cream with my cake though.

[ZipZap2000]

And cake - there always needs to be cake after funeral.I hear some cultures prefer alcoholic beverages and I'm OK with that, too. I'd like some cream with my cake though.

And custard.

[Catastrophy]

And custard.

That is Crème Anglaise, I believe? I'd take that, too, for the right cake. But we shouldn't talk about cuisine - it is banned from the BSN.

[Onewomanarmy]

And cake - there always needs to be cake after funeral.I hear some cultures prefer alcoholic beverages and I'm OK with that, too. I'd like some cream with my cake though.

 

Preferably whiskey! Lots and lots of it!

[Catastrophy]

Preferably whiskey! Lots and lots of it!

Sounds like an Irish funeral.

[wright1978]

I think if a major character dies or a mass death disaster some sort of memorial might make sense, unless there's an urgent story reason to postpone it.

I don't really see the need to have weddings, maybe if the character lasts 3 games like Shep/ or covered span of decade like DA2 accomodating something like that might make more sense.

[ZipZap2000]

it is banned from the BSN.

Bastards.

[Catastrophy]

I think if a major character dies or a mass death disaster some sort of memorial might make sense, unless there's an urgent story reason to postpone it.

I don't really see the need to have weddings, maybe if the character lasts 3 games like Shep/ or covered span of decade like DA2 accomodating something like that might make more sense.

The wedding in Kill Bill was a good story element, imo.

[Chealec]

 

 

Jobsagoodun.

[Halfdan The Menace]

I crave for a Viking funeral.

 

[Laughing_Man]

I crave for a Viking funeral.

 

Where people burn themselves alive because someone died?...

 

I can't think of anything more stupid.