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the messanger but who knows what he did the epilogues are not specific

IT says something along the lines of "A hooded figure, who spoke with a lisp, was reported to often help people, and they later died of the blight"
Are you suggesting he did more than simply help/protect people?
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Right, forgot about that. Now that I remember, when Morrigan makes her DR offer, she does say she won't bed Riordan (a senior Warden), but I don't remember exactly why.

Because the ritual doesn't work his taint is so strong that the child cannot be even concieved,the taint is a poison



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well it doesn't make sense to me,first they say that the taint is a poison that even corrupts lands,people die if they are infected by it through darkspawn blood or fluids contact like the templar in DA2,but GW don't infect others people ok.....

What happened with the Templar in DA:2 was blood to blood contact. Just like in real life, certain diseases only spread a certain way.
Example, you can't catch HIV from kissing or a toilet seat, but you can catch it through Sex.

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IT says something along the lines of "A hooded figure, who spoke with a lisp, was reported to often help people, and they later died of the blight"
Are you suggesting he did more than simply help/protect people?

I'm not suggesting anything but maybe he could have made those people sick by touching them not on purpose in exposed or injured part of their bodies while trying to defend them.
Through skin one cannot be infected


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Because the ritual doesn't work his taint is so strong that the child cannot be even concieved,the taint is a poison


David Gaider said once that two Grey Wardens would never be able to have a child together due to the taint in both of them. I believe what Morrigan meant was, that the taint was so strong that it had killed off all of his viable sperm.

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What happened with the Templar in DA:2 was blood to blood contact. Just like in real life, certain diseases only spread a certain way.
Example, you can't catch HIV from kissing or a toilet seat, but you can catch it through Sex.

ok then what's make the taint different? why can't be transmitted this way? In fact it can but for one reason or the other it does not make people into ghouls



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David Gaider said once that two Grey Wardens would never be able to have a child together due to the taint in both of them. I believe what Morrigan meant was, that the taint was so strong that it had killed off all of his viable sperm.


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ok then what's make the taint different? why can't be transmitted this way? In fact it can but for one reason or the other it does not make people into ghouls

Grey Wardens and Darkspawn differ, as does the taint they carry, in that Wardens are MADE that way. The Spawn are born via Women they've stolen from the surface and turned into brood mothers. Plus, there are other things which go into the ritual of making someone into a Warden.
I assume, something else in this ritual stops the corruption from turning them into a Ghoul and thus spreading the taint like a Spawn does.
Also remember, Wardens don't actually die of the taint. They usually take themselves off on a suicide run to the deep roads once they start hearing the Old Gods song.

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DA lore is so convoluted.
Once Gaider said that a few amount of taint and in low concentration make people into ghouls(the thread case), while a great amount of taint or a strong concentration make them GW.

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The images are already in my mind and they will never, ever go away.


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Grey Wardens and Darkspawn differ, as does the taint they carry, in that Wardens are MADE that way. The Spawn are born via Women they've stolen from the surface and turned into brood mothers. Plus, there are other things which go into the ritual of making someone into a Warden.
I assume, something else in this ritual stops the corruption from turning them into a Ghoul and thus spreading the taint like a Spawn does.
Also remember, Wardens don't actually die of the taint. They usually take themselves off on a suicide run to the deep roads once they start hearing the Old Gods song.

There is nothing special in the joining it is just high concentration of taint,it is the trick to make GW instead of ghouls.



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Of course they can have sex. One of the few bonuses of being a Warden is additional sexual endurance. Plus, you're mostly sterile, so the likelihood of an unwanted pregnancy is slim.



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Of course they can have sex. One of the few bonuses of being a Warden is additional sexual endurance. Plus, you're mostly sterile, so the likelihood of an unwanted pregnancy is slim.

But why they don't infect their non GW LI?



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I have your answer, OP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/condom
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There is nothing special in the joining it is just high concentration of taint,it is the trick to make GW instead of ghouls.


It isn't a trick, and they never become Ghouls. It involves a hell of a lot of Lyrium -Alistair tells you this in Origins. Darkspawn blood and Archdemon blood -which Riodion tells you about- that I know of.

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You may have a point, although I believe the taint is only catchable via bite/injury from one who is fully consumed by the blight (i.e. Darkspawn).  I could be wrong though.

 

I would assume that the partial taint of the wardens, which offers them significant resistance to not only the taint but other diseases would make them non-carriers?

 

I hadn't thought about it, but, there does seem to be something questionable about it.

For now that's the only answer theory i found good



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But why they don't infect their non GW LI?


Because it's not sexually-transmitted? Most diseases aren't. Seriously, you might as well ask how men with testicular cancer can have unprotected sex without infecting their partners. It just doesn't work that way.
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But why they don't infect their non GW LI?

 

Because if they infect their LI, it would be much more enjoyable the joining ritual, and it would be much more GW in Thedas.


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It isn't a trick, and they never become Ghouls. It involves a hell of a lot of Lyrium -Alistair tells you this in Origins. Darkspawn blood and Archdemon blood -which Riodion tells you about- that I know of.

Lyrium and archdemon blood are just a way to treat the darkspawn blood in order to improve it's potency but they are not necessary especially the archdemon blood which is a rare ingredient used only if available.



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Because it's not sexually-transmitted? Most diseases aren't. Seriously, you might as well ask why people with cancer can have unprotected sex without infecting their partners.

Oh but that doesn't make sense,the taint grow and sustain itself into living systems and act like a virus not like a cancer disease(Lyrium,persons,animals ecc..) if it is passed from a GW to a non GW why they don't become infected?

Only possible reason is tha GW taint is different than darksapwn taint,than again such difference doesn't exsist anymore when it comes to senior GW because they lose the resistance.



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Oh but that doesn't make sense,the taint grow and sustain itself into living systems and act like a virus not like a cancer disease(Lyrium,persons,animals ecc..) if it is passed from a GW to a non GW why they don't become infected?
Only possible reason is tha GW taint is different than darksapwn taint,than again such difference doesn't exsist anymore when it comes to senior GW because they lose the resistance.

The taint DOESN'T pass from a Warden to a non Warden though does it? Show me one instance where that happens? You can't. Just as you can't prove Darkspawn DON'T spread the taint by touch. IE the Messenger from Awakening.

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Lyrium and archdemon blood are just a way to treat the darkspawn blood in order to improve it's potency but they are not necessary especially the archdemon blood which is a rare ingredient used only if available.


Perhaps. It was never actually explained in game after all.

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How do we know what is or is not necessary to do the Joining?  I could have sworn that there was a conversation or a codex or something that mentions that the joining juice has to be specially prepared.  If that's not the case then why didn't the Warden and Alistair just start a warden recruitment drive in order to up their chances of being able to kill the archdemon?

 

The wiki article states that the Joining requires an extremely potent dose of the corruption and that the potency of the blood used can be magically enhanced, but it doesn't say that that's the only reason that lyrium is used.  Further, the article also refers to the process as a blood magic, which would seem to imply that it's more than drinking particularly tangy blood.  

 

Nevertheless, the only fluid that I remember people saying is particularly virulent is blood.  There is no reason to assume that the taint can be spread via sexual fluids just because it can be spread by blood*.  Similarly, there's no reason to believe that it can be spread by sexual fluid just because the taint can make someone infertile.  

 

*As far as I know, it hasn't been suggested that coming into contact with Grey Warden blood is dangerous for anyone at all.  



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Right, forgot about that. Now that I remember, when Morrigan makes her DR offer, she does say she won't bed Riordan (a senior Warden), but I don't remember exactly why.


Well, for one, Riordan's a loyal Warden, and not likely to accept a "let's save the Archdemon's life and just hope he'll stop Archdemoning if we do, because I don't want to die" plan.

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The taint does cause the sperm and eggs of Wardens to break down over time (or maybe with females it damages the womb). So it wouldn't have worked with Riordan because his boys were too far gone.

As for spreading the taint like an STD, that won't happen, not even through blood really. This is because the Grey Warden blood also carries the resistance. So it won't infect.

A Warden who reaches ghoul state might be another story however.

And it's a different story with the old gods. Any amount of taint will corrupt them, even if it's from Grey Warden blood. The Architect found this out the hard way.

Also, Morrigan claims that Grey Wardens are renowned for their sexual performance.
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