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#51
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There are no recorded instances of the taint being passed from a Grey Warden to another person, sexually or otherwise. Given how many people various Wardens have banged, I think we can rule out sexual transmission of the taint.

 

(The Architect did accidentally taint Urthemiel with Warden blood, but that's an unusual case. We don't know what would happen if an untainted human/elf/dwarf/qunari drank Grey Warden blood.)



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5/10 would not bang


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5/10 would not bang


Are you saying you don't want anything to do with my Taint? :(
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I'm sorry I have to tell you this Gomez, but no. I hope we can still remain friends.

:lol:
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How do we know what is or is not necessary to do the Joining? 

 

DA:O establishes that the Joining requires darkspawn blood and lyrium (at Ostagar), as well as a drop of blood from an Archdemon (Riordan mentions it). Someone then asked David Gaider somewhere about how the Wardens were founded or what happens when you run out of Archdemon blood, and he said that you can substitute the Archdemon blood with magically enhanced darkspawn blood if you have to.

 

We don't really know all the ways the taint can spread. In Ostagar you're warned about contact with the blood, but the Dalish Warden is tainted by the eluvian (a taint Merril removed using blood magic), The Blight also manifests as an illness, that's where ghouls come from.


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Every time this guy makes a new thread I lose a braincell.
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Elfroot will help you regrow them.


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The taint does cause the sperm and eggs of Wardens to break down over time (or maybe with females it damages the womb). So it wouldn't have worked with Riordan because his boys were too far gone.

As for spreading the taint like an STD, that won't happen, not even through blood really. This is because the Grey Warden blood also carries the resistance. So it won't infect.

A Warden who reaches ghoul state might be another story however.

And it's a different story with the old gods. Any amount of taint will corrupt them, even if it's from Grey Warden blood. The Architect found this out the hard way.

Also, Morrigan claims that Grey Wardens are renounced for their sexual performance.

your theory is intreasting but then again,why the blood of grey wardens was able to make Urthemiel into an archdemon?

where is this resistance?



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I rate this thread 0/10. You're losing your edge.



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DA:O establishes that the Joining requires darkspawn blood and lyrium (at Ostagar), as well as a drop of blood from an Archdemon (Riordan mentions it). Someone then asked David Gaider somewhere about how the Wardens were founded or what happens when you run out of Archdemon blood, and he said that you can substitute the Archdemon blood with magically enhanced darkspawn blood if you have to.

 

We don't really know all the ways the taint can spread. In Ostagar you're warned about contact with the blood, but the Dalish Warden is tainted by the eluvian (a taint Merril removed using blood magic), The Blight also manifests as an illness, that's where ghouls come from.

This magical substitute wouldn't have been necessary.

 

(1) You can actually kill an archdemon without being a GW. It won't stay dead, but you can harvest some blood for the ritual anyway.

(2) You can get archdemon blood without killing one. A bleeding wound should be enough.

 

So really, there isn't a problem with regard to how the first GW came into existence. It was probably by accident.



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This reminds me of XCOM. You also sometimes take sub-perfect choices because you need captives (in the original) or skulljack (in 2)...

 

"Let's have a non-Warden kill the Archdemon because we need more blood at this stage of the campaign..."



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Kieran is not "Demon Spawn".  He's Old God.

It's all a matter of perspective i guess...
The warden may call this child a demon spawn in conversations since the line between merging and abomination is not so clearly defined.
I don't think is wrong to define Flemeth or OGB Kieran as abominations.


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I'm sorry I have to tell you this Gomez, but no. I hope we can still remain friends.

:lol:


Well... I forgive you.

But we'll always have that night in Bermuda. :wub:
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Oh! I'm touched.


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Hey i realized that this topic isn't serious anymore i swear that it's purpose was meant to be serious but hardly people believe me anyway

 

This magical substitute wouldn't have been necessary.

 

(1) You can actually kill an archdemon without being a GW. It won't stay dead, but you can harvest some blood for the ritual anyway.

 

Their taint is potent so unless you don't wear protective mimetic i don't know how non GW could gain that blood
i'm still surprised Eamon wasn't dead for the taint i clearly remember that the archdemon bited him like a soft apple Lol DAO was full of nonsense


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I wondered about that when I first played DA:O, not just sexual transmition but wouldn't fighting darkspawns in melee, or walking around that area with the broodmother make you contract the Taint? Well, just don't think too hard about it, it's bad writing with magic rule #1: "It's magic, I don't have to explain it."

The Taint is descrived in codexes, novels, dialogue as this highly infectious diseases that affects from the soil to the air, flesh...so then why do companions, the legion of the dead fight darkspawn at melee and don't get infected? Well, except a sibling, but it was sibling, everyone knows a family member of a protagonist in a fantasy setting is due to tragedy (as in death, kidnapping, poisoning) sooner or later.

So no, the magical disease known as Taint canot be trasnmitted sexually by Grey Wardens, or in any way, because reasons, unless they were to tell us that infected individuals cannot transmit it, so ghouls wouldn't be able either.
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DA:O establishes that the Joining requires darkspawn blood and lyrium (at Ostagar), as well as a drop of blood from an Archdemon (Riordan mentions it). Someone then asked David Gaider somewhere about how the Wardens were founded or what happens when you run out of Archdemon blood, and he said that you can substitute the Archdemon blood with magically enhanced darkspawn blood if you have to.

 

We don't really know all the ways the taint can spread. In Ostagar you're warned about contact with the blood, but the Dalish Warden is tainted by the eluvian (a taint Merril removed using blood magic), The Blight also manifests as an illness, that's where ghouls come from.

 

Yeah, I read the wiki while making my post.  What I should have actually asked is "How do we know what specifically goes into the process of preparing those ingredients."  Someone earlier suggested that magic was only involved in increasing the potency of the darkspawn corruption as necessary, but I wanted to know if there was something that stated this explicitly or if it was just assumed.



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I wondered about that when I first played DA:O, not just sexual transmition but wouldn't fighting darkspawns in melee, or walking around that area with the broodmother make you contract the Taint? Well, just don't think too hard about it, it's bad writing with magic rule #1: "It's magic, I don't have to explain it."

The Taint is descrived in codexes, novels, dialogue as this highly infectious diseases that affects from the soil to the air, flesh...so then why do companions, the legion of the dead fight darkspawn at melee and don't get infected? Well, except a sibling, but it was sibling, everyone knows a family member of a protagonist in a fantasy setting is due to tragedy (as in death, kidnapping, poisoning) sooner or later.

So no, the magical disease known as Taint canot be trasnmitted sexually by Grey Wardens, or in any way, because reasons, unless they were to tell us that infected individuals cannot transmit it, so ghouls wouldn't be able either.

Lol you are trying to find logic in the DAO plot,good luck with that! the taint can't infect  companions because "reasons"



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The Grey wardens can have sex with non Grey warden partners?
Especially for those who are  senior GW,can't the taint be a risk factor?
For what i recall no senior GW had a secret lover until now.

 

Between Morrigan, Zevran, Isabela, and Leiliana, I think the only possible answer to this one is "obviously."

 

 

 

Hey i realized that this topic isn't serious anymore i swear that it's purpose was meant to be serious but hardly people believe me anyway

 

 

They don't? I am shocked. Shocked!



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On those cold nights around the campfire, what do you think those Wardens do to keep warm? :o



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On those cold nights around the campfire, what do you think those Wardens do to keep warm? :o

Use a thicker blanket?


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Between Morrigan, Zevran, Isabela, and Leiliana, I think the only possible answer to this one is "obviously."


Don't forget the hoo-ers at the Pearl.

Use a thicker blanket?


That one was worthy.
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3 solid arguments as to why the "only fluids spread the taint" is bollocks:

 

1. If bodily fluids truly did spread the taint, including the stuff from a Grey Warden, then that means Grey Wardens can never ever engage in a lethal fight with other people nearby, as a bodily fluid know as "blood" comes out of humans when you poke them too much with a pointy stick. Fights can get messy. If a non-Grey Warden fights alongside a Grey Warden, there's a massive risk that they'll be wounded and blood from the GW will get into the wounds of the non-GW.

 

2. If touch could not spread the taint, including for darkspawn, that would mean sentient darkspawn can co-exist with non-darkspawn creatures. They cannot, that is why the Messenger and other sentient, talking darkspawn are such a moral dilemma: they mean no harm, but anything they do causes harm to non-darkspawn.

 

3. It's just not true, period. The lore/codex entries in the games themselves quite literally contradict the 'taint is spread via fluids' theory.



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2. If touch could not spread the taint, including for darkspawn, that would mean sentient darkspawn can co-exist with non-darkspawn creatures. They cannot, that is why the Messenger and other sentient, talking darkspawn are such a moral dilemma: they mean no harm, but anything they do causes harm to non-darkspawn.

 

If a mere touch could spread the taint the entire premise of this franchise would be stupid,because how can non GW armies even fight darkspawn if they can' even touch them.



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Oh but that doesn't make sense,the taint grow and sustain itself into living systems and act like a virus not like a cancer disease(Lyrium,persons,animals ecc..) if it is passed from a GW to a non GW why they don't become infected?

Only possible reason is tha GW taint is different than darksapwn taint,than again such difference doesn't exsist anymore when it comes to senior GW because they lose the resistance.

 

That's exactly it. The Joining ritual infects Wardens with the Taint, but also contains it. Over time, it starts to affect them more, but they can never infect others because the nature of their Taint is simply different. There's not much more to it.


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