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[GoldenGail3]

No.... That would be stupid. 

[Toasted Llama]

If a mere touch could spread the taint the entire premise of this franchise would be stupid,because how can non GW armies even fight darkspawn if they can' even touch them.

 

So the people of Thedas invented this really cool thing called "swords", so they don't actually have to punch people to death, including darkspawn. Really neat feature.

 

On a more serious note:

.... Yes. That is exactly why stopping the Blight other than killing the archdemon is impossible and that is why Grey Wardens are needed. Duh.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Don't forget the hoo-ers at the Pearl.

I had. But I wouldn't have mentioned them for the same reason I didn't mention Cammen or Ghenya: we don't stick around them long enough to know whether they got sick.

 

Edit: Oh, maybe I should mention Amadis Vael. My understanding is that she had sex with Garahel and didn't get sick.

 

 

So the people of Thedas invented this really cool thing called "swords", so they don't actually have to punch people to death, including darkspawn. Really neat feature.

The main problem is a darkspawn bleeding on someone. A sword won't stop that.

[Andraste_Reborn]

 

Edit: Oh, maybe I should mention Amadis Vael. My understanding is that she had sex with Garahel and didn't get sick.

 

 

This also seems to be true of half the other people in the book. That Garehel got around. (Such a **** that he somehow managed to have sex with a Qunari hundreds of years before they arrived in Thedas!)

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

This also seems to be true of half the other people in the book. That Garehel got around. (Such a **** that he somehow managed to have sex with a Qunari hundreds of years before they arrived in Thedas!)

And he didn't cause a Blight epidemic to rival the Blight itself? If not, I think we can declare this question answered and ask that the thread be locked.

[Jedi Comedian]

I think I'm gonna bed Iona next time (and Morrigan and some Pearl workers).

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I think I'm gonna bed Iona next time 

That's evil metagame wise,she die if you bed her while she don't die if you don't

[Jedi Comedian]

That's evil metagame wise,she die if you bed her while she don't die if you don't

But she'll be mourned.

[vertigomez]

That's evil metagame wise,she die if you bed her while she don't die if you don't

I'm pretty sure she dies anyway, since Howe's men slaughtered everyone...

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I'm pretty sure she dies anyway, since Howe's men slaughtered everyone...

If there is no body there is still hope

[Jedi Comedian]

If there is no body there is still hope

I gave her the time of her life anyway...

[Toasted Llama]

The main problem is a darkspawn bleeding on someone. A sword won't stop that.

 

Well yeah, duh, but the OP was argueing that the darkspawn transferring the taint via touch suddenly makes it impossible for a non-GW to fight darkspawn, while they don't even have to touch the darkspawn to fight at all.

[Serza]

It was feeding time, really...

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Well yeah, duh, but the OP was argueing that the darkspawn transferring the taint via touch suddenly makes it impossible for a non-GW to fight darkspawn, while they don't even have to touch the darkspawn to fight at all.

they still need to put their feet on the lands the darkspawn touch and such lands are corrupted,didn't you even see how many were killed in Amranthine just because of the side effects of their taint?

[Lazarillo]

If there is no body there is still hope

In this case, I don't think there is.  Don't you end up seeing her orphaned daughter in the Denerim Alienage no matter what?

[Donquijote and 59 others]

In this case, I don't think there is.  Don't you end up seeing her orphaned daughter in the Denerim Alienage no matter what?

Well maybe the mother didn't had the chance to reach Denerim alienage because it was closed to everyone due to loghain and Howe that's it!

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

 

Well maybe the mother didn't had the chance to reach Denerim alienage because it was closed to everyone due to loghain and Howe that's it!

 

Except that you don't sneak through the blockade or anything. You get in because the Alienage was opened back up. By the time you can see Amethyne, her mother could credibly be able to do so if she's alive.

 

That, and the fact that Howe's plan seems to require that there be no witnesses, means you're really clutching at straws. (Not that that's unprecedented for you, what with the Broodmother thing and all.)

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Except that you don't sneak through the blockade or anything. You get in because the Alienage was opened back up. By the time you can see Amethyne, her mother could credibly be able to do so if she's alive.

 

 

The Alienage was opened only after Howe death no? 

Credible isn't  a fact  you don't know if she ever met her daughter or not or if she did it off-screen or not you simply have suppositions that she is dead,there is no body in Highever even if you dig in the library where she was left,everyone bodies is there while Iona and Dairren bodies are not .

Why  suppose that only the PC escaped when you don't even know if she or Dairren remained in the castle in the evening?

Bsn is full of pessimism Lol

[Dai Grepher]

It was only closed off to humans before Howe's death. If Iona had returned to the alienage before Howe's death, then she would have been allowed in, as that is where she lived.

After Howe's death it is open to all, and yet Amethyne still says that her mother hasn't come back.

That proves she didn't make it out of Highever.

Duncan, the human noble, and Dog only made it out because they used the secret passage, and even then they had to fight their way out because the castle was surrounded.

But I do hope that Amethyne is a party companion in the next game. A stealthy assassin elf woman who takes revenge on Tevinter for enslaving her people. Could play well into the whole theme of if the human world should be destroyed or not. Based on your interactions with her she will either be loyal to the party or side with Solas in the end.

[vertigomez]

Pffff, I still think Amethyne is Sera.

[Dai Grepher]

Absolute zero chance of that.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

It was only closed off to humans before Howe's death. If Iona had returned to the alienage before Howe's death, then she would have been allowed in, as that is where she lived.

After Howe's death it is open to all, and yet Amethyne still says that her mother hasn't come back.

That proves she didn't make it out of Highever.

Duncan, the human noble, and Dog only made it out because they used the secret passage, and even then they had to fight their way out because the castle was surrounded.

 

That proof nothing because the timespan between Howe's death and the defeat of the Archdemon is very slim you don't get to spend months in the alienage.

Why do you think that they would have allowed her to enter the quarantine zone?

There are several elves in the district of Denerim and those who were outside were not allowed to enter inside.

The secret passage was useful only to those who were inside the castle,Highever isn't just a castle and Howe didn't killed all the inhabitants(20000) of the Teyrn he attached only the castle to gain control

(this pretty much make what @River said pure nonsense since he said that Howe didn't wanted to have any witnesses Lol he just wanted the Cousland dead since Highever population who surely noticed that Howe took control of Bryce castle wasn't killed.)

In short you don't even know if she or Dairren were at the castle if you don't bed them.

Suppositions aren't the ultimate proof,it's seem to talk to those people who were sure Sten died in the cage while instead he wasn't dead at all.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

 

That proof nothing,because the timespan between Howe's death and the defeat of the Archdemon is very slim you don't get to spend months in the alienage.

Why do you think that they would have allowed her to enter the quarantine zone? There are several elves in the district of Denerim and those who are outside are not allowed to enter inside.

The secret passage was useful only to those who were inside the castle,Highever isn't just a castle and Howe didn't killed all the inhabitants(20000) of the Teyrn he attached only the castle to gain control.

In short oyu don't even know if she or Dairren were at the castle if you don't bed them.

 

As much as I hate to admit it, you have a point. Ladies in waiting do have a strange tendency to sleep in town while their mistresses are in the castle. And there's no reason at all the guest's son would be in the castle.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

As much as I hate to admit it, you have a point. Ladies in waiting do have a strange tendency to sleep in town while their mistresses are in the castle. And there's no reason at all the guest's son would be in the castle.

There's no reason to not believe that Howe men left Iona alive for their own reasons.....

now it's more sinister if it is shady enough is more credible  for Bsn..

Their fate is so ambiguous that the writers can literally do (provided that they even care) what they did to Sten without using retcon like the Leliana-Oghren situation

[Aulis Vaara]

Lyrium and archdemon blood are just a way to treat the darkspawn blood in order to improve it's potency but they are not necessary especially the archdemon blood which is a rare ingredient used only if available.

Source?

Because this contradicted by the lore. I.E. not being able to make more Wardens without Archdemon blood. Or you know, just to basic "not being consumed by the song of the Old Gods".