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[Elfyoth]

I remember that David Gaider once said something about that topic, if I think he said that two wardens can't have children but one warden and a non warden can have children, I can't find that post, I wonder though, can the HoF as of present time(9:44) have children with a person that is not a warden? For example my HoF is what 30 years old? Can he have children?

[vertigomez]

Isabela: You've certainly... filled out, Carver. Shame, really. I hear joining the Wardens separates the men from their "boys."
Carver: We rarely have children, true. But don't worry, that just means I try ever so much harder.

[LightningPoodle]

I think yes, but it would be very, very difficult. I think the taint would make the pretty much sterile, so two Wardens trying would be next to impossible. However, there is always a chance that a couple get one good egg and one good sperm at the same time and produce a baby.

 

With someone that isn't a Warden, the chance for it to work would naturally be a little higher, but not by much. You still have to get the one good egg or sperm.

[Catilina]

Perhaps, its a little inconsistency of the story. In principle, I know, not. However Anders says to the femHawke at the end of DA2: that their children will be free to live ... Adopted child? Or...?

 

Update: Okay, I got the answer.

[Cyrus Amell]

It is possible, of course. But I imagine anyone's fertility would be compromised to an extent by the Joining. As I understand it, Grey Wardens are almost a different species thanks to their connection with the Darkspawn... they are part Darkspawn now. 

 

Still, back in Dragon Age Origins we see that Morrigan can indeed be impregnated by a Warden lover even if the Dark Ritual does not take place (so it's possible for male Wardens). There are two different versions of Kieran if this is the case. As it is all but confirmed that Alistair is Grand Enchanter Fiona's son, as she was also a Grey Warden, then that would make him another notable instance (so it is just as likely with a female Warden). This may raise the question of whether the children of Wardens are more likely to survive the Joining. Of course, the lifestyle would prevent many such observations from taking place and I am sure even fewer Grey Wardens would want their children to suffer as they do by becoming Wardens themselves.

 

Now, two Grey Wardens having a child together would be going against the odds. But again, not impossible. 

[AnimalBoy]

Isabela: You've certainly... filled out, Carver. Shame, really. I hear joining the Wardens separates the men from their "boys."
Carver: We rarely have children, true. But don't worry, that just means I try ever so much harder.

 

 

If my Hawke ever heard this he'd send Isabela to the curb and break Carver's neck.

[vertigomez]

If my Hawke ever heard this he'd send Isabela to the curb and break Carver's neck.

Such insecurity.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Senior GW are semi barren,the more they are senior the more they are barren

 

Now, two Grey Wardens having a child together would be going against the odds. But again, not impossible. 

Impossible two GW can't have children or so a writer said...

[Gold Dragon]

IIRC, Gaider said that A Warden having a child with a non-Warden, without magic, was about a 1 in 4 chance.  Between two wardens was nearly impossible.

 

With Magic.... (hinting that usage of Magic could indeed get a female Warden pregnant by a Male Warden)

[lynroy]

^Clearly magical sex in the way to go.

[GoldenGail3]

Isabela: You've certainly... filled out, Carver. Shame, really. I hear joining the Wardens separates the men from their "boys."
Carver: We rarely have children, true. But don't worry, that just means I try ever so much harder.

 

I don't think my Hawke would mind.... Lol, it would mean that he did his job correctly, and that putting him in the Wardens was the correct thing to do. 

[GoldenGail3]

Such insecurity.

 

Meh, my Hawke is way less Insecure; he's had a threesome between Zev/himself/Isabela...

[Big I]

I always assumed that Isabella and Hawke had a pretty open sex life. In MotA Isabella sort of invites Tallis to get with Hawke, and she's fine (at least in Act 1) with Hawke going to the Rose.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 Someone can explain as for why GW children don't inherit  the taint?

 It is removed during the embrional process because the hemoglobin of  fetus are more rich of oxygen?

fetal hemoglobin (α2γ2) differs from the adult (α2Β2) for the presence of two gamma chains instead of the two alpha chain,so si this the reason?

Or it is magic?

[Cyrus Amell]

 

 Someone can explain as for why GW children don't inherit  the taint?

 It is removed during the embrional process because the hemoglobin of  fetus are more rich of oxygen?

fetal hemoglobin (α2γ2) differs from the adult (α2Β2) for the presence of two gamma chains instead of the two alpha chain,so si this the reason?

Or it is magic?

 

 

Well, the Grey Wardens have an immunity to the Taint - perhaps this also means they cannot transmit the disease? The Joining would be worst than hazardous if the side affect was that surviving Wardens could spread the Blight on contact. 

 

So.... magic. The Taint/Blight is magical in nature and the Wardens use some unknown aspect to instill through the Joining both an immunity and a connection with the Darkspawn that can confuse Archdemons near death. The Architect used Grey Warden blood to free his followers of the Calling, implying that the Warden blood had some previously unknown magical medical properties. 

 

But this would all depend on whether the Grey Warden is actually mutated by the Joining or if his or her body merely builds an immunity to the Taint. If the Warden was actually mutated, he or she should be as sterile as a mule as opposed to simply being unable to procreate easily. I don't think I am qualified to go on at length on such matters.

 

so I will just end with saying the following: magic!

[Secret Rare]

Well, the Grey Wardens have an immunity to the Taint - perhaps this also means they cannot transmit the disease? 

This theory can't work because it is what the Architect did yet the old god was infected.

[Cyrus Amell]

This theory can't work because it is what the Architect did yet the old god was infected.

 

But the Architect was a darkspawn, he can naturally spread the Taint by touch. His failure likely means that he was unable to inoculate the Old God Urthemiel before he accidentally infected it with the Blight. 

[Secret Rare]

But the Architect was a darkspawn, he can naturally spread the Taint by touch. His failure likely means that he was unable to inoculate the Old God Urthemiel before he accidentally infected it with the Blight. 

He said that he fed the dragon with the ritual and then it became an archdemon right in that moment so i think is difficult to believe that it was a simple touch that turned the dragon into an archdemon but even then with the resistance he should have been cured instantly like Carver/Bethany or the Dalish warden instead it didn't happened so i think it was the ritual who tainted the dragon

[Cyrus Amell]

This is all a bit confusing to take in.