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[Domakir]

I keep seeing people who say that only the comics and novels are canon so I would like to know if this is true.

[Krypplingz]

I always thought that one of Dragon Age's charms was that there wasn't really any canon story. It's your story (with some limitations). 

 

There is the default world state, which I assume is the world state for the books. Since the book characters and events are referenced in the game I assume that they always happen, with some minor alterations depending on your world state. 

But I suppose the default world state is the closest to canon you can get. 

[Inkvisiittori]

Since the book characters and events are referenced in the game I assume that they always happen, with some minor alterations depending on your world state. 

 

This is correct.

 

The default world state is not canon. It's made for the new players who haven't played the previous games. 

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Canon does not exist in this franchise there are only different variations of world states and the inherent problems and technical difficulties to maintain the narrative along one path by tied all these choices on a same outcome which inevitably result into shallow neutralizations of previous choices.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 

 

There is the default world state, which I assume is the world state for the books. Since the book characters and events are referenced in the game I assume that they always happen, with some minor alterations depending on your world state. 

 

Then tell me how the silent grove happen if i killed Alistair and sent Isabela with the Arishok?

[Krypplingz]

Then tell me how the silent grove happen if i killed Alistair and sent Isabela with the Arishok?

I have not read the silent grove, so I'm not 100% how it plays out _{(Pretty please don't spoil it, with a somewhat fresh cherry on top)} but:

Biff the understudy takes Alistairs place. Or Isidor, the third Therin bastard. Or maybe Anora, she's a sword and shield wielder.

 

Isabela always escapes from the Arishok and I'd assume all the beef she had from that was directed at Hawke. Varric is the one who suggests her/gets her to come along, right? Varric has been shown to communicate with members exciled from the cult of Hawke, as evidenced by his chat with Anders at the Hanged man, even if Anders was kicked out of the cult in act 2. 

[vertigomez]

Bioware has a default world state (mostly they kill off characters so that new players aren't bombarded with confusing cameos) and this carries over to the comics and novels.

It doesn't affect anyone's game, so I dunno why people get so salty about it. What happened in your game still happened in your game.

[Andromelek]

The games carry on your choices, of course many of the relevant ones are not even mentioned, the books try to not touch any of your choices, Asunder being an exception because of Wynne and the Silent Grove being another because it has so many plot holes that it's impossible it can happen without Alistair and Isabella.

[Tidus]

As I mention before I have no cannon or spamon...

 

I play my DA games like I do  my Final Fantasy series each game slightly different. I'm to the point where I play each game independently..  I kill Loghain and he pops up in DA:2. I do Morrigan's  DR. No big deal its a game.  In DA:I Morrigan has a son..I haven't use any world imports yet and won't till I buy "Game Of The Year" for my XBOX1-kinda wish I went with PS4 but,what the hay I like it..

[Mac007]

I think what most people mean when they say 'canon' is the default world state if you don't import your own save data. The books and comics are I believe supposed to have happened in every playthrough, and it is up to the player to figure out how those played out if you happened to kill characters involved.

[PapaCharlie9]

I keep seeing people who say that only the comics and novels are canon so I would like to know if this is true. It would be a little disappointing ( and for me it wouldn't make sense doing a game where your decisions have an impact to the story but none of them are canon) but Has BioWare said something about this?

 

If I make a decision different from you, who wins? Which one is canon?

 

Either you have to expand the definition of canon to include all alternatives, in which case the term no long has any meaning, or you have to go with what others have posted above: the game is a "canon-free zone." Stuff that happens before, after, or along-side-but-not-influenced-by can be canon and can influence the game, but nothing that a player can get their hands on can escape from the canon-free zone.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I keep seeing people who say that only the comics and novels are canon so I would like to know if this is true. It would be a little disappointing ( and for me it wouldn't make sense doing a game where your decisions have an impact to the story but none of them are canon) but Has BioWare said something about this?

Bioware has on multiple occassiond said that our choices are canon for our Dragon Age storyline. 

The novels and comics merely follow Bioware's personal canon, but they said that their canon doesn't make your canon not canon. 

[Reznore57]

There's no true canon with Dragon Age , there's events happening for everyone , then there's different world states.

You have a default world state in the Keep and for new players when starting a game .

Then there's an unknown world state used in books , comics etc ,but it's not even sure it's the same used for everything or whoever working on those extras just roll with whatever he/she prefers.

 

An example : The 5 th Blight is always defeated , it's a canon event but who kills the Archdemon is up in the air .

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Bioware has a default world state (mostly they kill off characters so that new players aren't bombarded with confusing cameos) and this carries over to the comics and novels.

It doesn't affect anyone's game, so I dunno why people get so salty about it. What happened in your game still happened in your game.

Of course they are salty because if they killed Alistair but Varric is still blathering about how he met the new Arishok  despite the whole premise of the  journey in the comic is disrupted because Alistair was dead,then it means that Bioware is forcing the plot  with unbelivable semi-canon tales to reach a common outcome for everyone

 

and this is only one of many examples......

[vertigomez]

Of course they are salty because if they killed Alistair but Varric is still blathering about how he met the new Arishok  despite the whole premise of the  journey in the comic is disrupted because Alistair was dead,then it means that Bioware is forcing the plot  with unbelivable semi-canon tales to reach a common outcome for everyone
 
and this is only one of many examples......

So maybe he met the new Arishok some other way? There's no 'forcing' the plot. If you killed Alistair, he doesn't show up as a Warden or as King, he's dead and your playthrough remains unaffected, so why worry?

[Andromelek]

Of course they are salty because if they killed Alistair but Varric is still blathering about how he met the new Arishok  despite the whole premise of the  journey in the comic is disrupted because Alistair was dead,then it means that Bioware is forcing the plot  with unbelivable semi-canon tales to reach a common outcome for everyone
 
and this is only one of many examples......

As I said in the other thread, Varric still mentions Tallis if never met her and Vivienne also mentions Irving even if you sided Templars on DAO, so the most likely is that Bioware doesn't use filters on the party banners and that's why Varric mentions Sten.