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[Donquijote and 59 others]

Ogres don't form any cohesive battle unit, they're scattered across the mass of darkspawn. A spear to the chest (at high speed) will kill them, they don't even have chest armor, Duncan killed one with daggers. Now with fully armored ogres commanded by awakened darkspawn we'd have a problem, but those were not around in any of the 5 blights, only after the 5th.

 

 

 

Unless we are talking about an army of intelligent disciples who are coordinating everything,Ogres are a non issue for the cavalry

 

 

 

Also contrary to some viewpoints, darkspawn are not stupid beasts. They are certainly savage and feral, but they are not stupid or mindless. They are shown to be capable of forging weaponry, tools and advanced equipment like siege equipment, forges and even architecture for their own use. They also have a good understanding of their own capabilities, hence the ambush tactics of darkspawn rogues and shrieks which are followed by heavy attacks by ogres and more heavily armored darkspawn.

 

There's also how they almost instinctively know how to use acquired ghouls as best fitting their skills and abilities: blacksmiths will be enslaved to further equip and armor the horde; women will be raped corrupted into broodmothers to create more darkspawn; wolves and owls are used as scouts; and bears and dragons are used as shock support for their armies.

 

Also, the emissaries and alphas of the darkspawn are all the strongest darkspawn who have survived years if not generations of constant darkspawn tribal warfare. Which means that they are all veterans by nature of living long enough to become alphas and emissaries. They lead their lesser brethren in combat and also lend their own considerable abilities to any potential fray.

 

While the Archdemon does clearly call the shots during the Blight, this is merely because the darkspawn understand the pecking order.

Darkspawn don't craft their own weapons they use ghouls,especially dwarf ghouls,while the archdemon mental faculties are not the one of the old gods,these dragons are clearly crazy and  unable to give proper strategical orders to everyone

[Heimerdinger]

Darkspawn don't craft their own weapons they use ghouls,especially dwarf ghouls

 

And their gear is the worst in Thedas. At least in DAO their armor had some sense and utility, but after the visual rework, the spawn now wear pieces of metal randomly strapped to them.

[Dai Grepher]

Hey, times are tough on the Darkspawn when there's no Blight to employ them.

[German Soldier]

Hey, times are tough on the Darkspawn when there's no Blight to employ them.

Until the architect disciples will wake them,because if i'm not mistake The seeker survive no matter what

[Qis]

Maybe there wasn't any  Calvary at Ostargar or they was protecting the supply lines from bandits? 

 

Any mounted Calvary charge against infantry is suicidal since the infantry can overwhelm the mounted trooper since he is at a disadvantage..

 

There is no spear/pike/halberd in Thedas...well Qunari have their javelins in DA2...but in context of Ostagar, cavalry will sure win, Darkspawn don't have such infantry...great axe maybe can kockdown the rider, but's too slow.

 

Loghain should have cavalry troop, and this can turn the battle into his favor.

 

Furthermore, Cailan should be on a horse as a king

[ShadowLordXII]

Ogres don't form any cohesive battle unit, they're scattered across the mass of darkspawn. A spear to the chest (at high speed) will kill them, they don't even have chest armor, Duncan killed one with daggers. Now with fully armored ogres commanded by awakened darkspawn we'd have a problem, but those were not around in any of the 5 blights, only after the 5th.

 

 

Archers in proper formation, shooting from behind a line of infantry or pikemen for protection. The spawn don't have that, like the ogres, their archers and emissaries are scattered all over. A human army would keep its mages and archers in the back ranks opening with volleys and bait the spawn to engage, infantry would hold the line, while cavalry units would pull a flanking maneuver at the right time.

 

 

331 BC Battle of Gaugamela - Alexander the Great and 2000 cavalry units supported by infantry, charge and break the line of a 50.000 strong persian army commanded by King Darius of Persia.

 

1683, Battle of Vienna - the polish-austrian-german alliance form a 20.000 strong heavy cavalry unit spearheaded by full armored polish lancers (hussars), in sync with infantry attacks they break the line of the Ottoman army in one of history's largest cavalry charges, and lift the siege of Vienna. The Ottomans had superior numbers.

 

Cavalry is effective against large groups if used properly and coordinated with other battle units, it's all about strategy.

 

 

See my point above. 

 

 

According to the lore they are, and the weapons and equipment they make are crude, hardly worth being called arms and armor. Even human barbarians can do better. They do have the Archdemon, who can direct them to some extent, and if he appears on the battlefield that's a problem to any devised tactic, cavalry charges included. But that's what they had wardens for. And griffons up to and including the 4th Blight.

 

1) Ogres essentially act as shock troops in that they are strong enough to breach enemy defenses and mobile enough to move where needed. Oges also have the advantage of being able to regenerate from non-fatal wounds. Codexes talk heavily about the Ogre's strength being used to break enemy front lines and formations. That spear to the chest feat is going to need context unless the spear went right through the heart. Duncan killing an ogre single-handedly does not demean their capabilities, that just displays how badass Duncan was.

 

2) Possible, I won't deny that.

 

3) Its also about who you're charging against. Unlike normal humans, darkspawn show little fear and are noted for never surrendering even in the face of defeat. Darkspawn also have high numbers whom favor heavy armor and weaponry which would make them less vulnerable. Remember that conventional strategy against darkspawn is going to be less effective due to the very nature of the darkspawn hordes abilities and innate taint.

 

4) The risk remains.

 

5) The armor and weapons of Origins weren't crude in the slightest. Weak, but the darkspawn knew what they were doing. Not to mention that the darkspawn do have specialized darkspawn like the forgemaster whom can craft stuff for the horde, they just also incorporate the abilities of their captive ghouls as well. I'd also point out that the fact that the darkspawn know how to place ghouls where they're best suited is a clear sign of intelligence. So again, savage and war-minded, but far from stupid.

 

After all, intelligence has multiples of being expressed including: capacity for logic, abstract thought, understanding, self-awareness, communication, learning, emotional knowledge, memory, planning, creativity and problem solving. In short, the ability to acquire, retain and apply knowledge towards various behaviors and tasks in a given environment and context.

 

Which the darkspawn have exhibited on multiple occasions. At least in regards to Origins.

 

Unless we consider the constant and pointless retcons and pseudo-reboots. But I tend to ignore anything that's contradicting to what we previously saw in Origins.

[Tidus]

Qis, Archer Darkspawn could and would shoot troopers from the saddle just like the plains Indians wars this is why troopers dismounted to fight any Indian battle.

 

Cavalry was never meant to be a attacking force but,their main job was to  support the infantry and once the infantry broke the enemy's line the Cavalry would then charge the fleeing disorganized enemy infantry. Archers would be far better then pikemen simply because archers could send volleys of arrows as the Cavalry charged and take a deadly toll  on the troopers.

 

A mounted King would be a prize target for any Darkspawn archer-remember where the group found Cailan when they return to Ostagar..

[Qis]

Qis, Archer Darkspawn could and would shoot troopers from the saddle just like the plains Indians wars this is why troopers dismounted to fight any Indian battle.

 

Cavalry was never meant to be a attacking force but,their main job was to  support the infantry and once the infantry broke the enemy's line the Cavalry would then charge the fleeing disorganized enemy infantry. Archers would be far better then pikemen simply because archers could send volleys of arrows as the Cavalry charged and take a deadly toll  on the troopers.

 

A mounted King would be a prize target for any Darkspawn archer-remember where the group found Cailan when they return to Ostagar..

 

From what i know, archers are so weak against cavalry charge, that's why pikemen always guard them in ancient warfare, unless archers are placed on places cavalry cannot reach of course. Furthermore, during medieval, armies are heavily armored designed to against arrows, unlike in Roman time, even the British Longbow need a special range and special training to make it effective. That's why crossbow become popular because no need special training, crossbowmen are usually militias and poorly paid.

 

The example you made discounted, because in American Indian war, cavalry no longer wear armor.

 

In Ostagar, Loghain have higher ground, if his troop are cavalry, he sure win.

[Tidus]

Qis,The Sioux, Cheyenne,Blackfoot and Comanche   was the best and most feared archers in the world and they manage to stop Cavalry charges several times during the plain Indian wars.  The Darkspawn archers would have been victorious over any mounted charge armor or no simply because arrows can piece armor and once mounted Cavalry is in the thick of the battle they become sitting ducks because they would be overwhelm by the Darkspawn and Ogres ..Even GW lost Griffon riders during a attack on the Darkspawn.

 

Pikemen would have been cut down by archers long before the Cavalry charge. Cavalry is not a assault unit.That's the infantry's job.

[Qis]

Qis,The Sioux, Cheyenne,Blackfoot and Comanche   was the best and most feared archers in the world and they manage to stop Cavalry charges several times during the plain Indian wars.  The Darkspawn archers would have been victorious over any mounted charge armor or no simply because arrows can piece armor and once mounted Cavalry is in the thick of the battle they become sitting ducks because they would be overwhelm by the Darkspawn and Ogres ..Even GW lost Griffon riders during a attack on the Darkspawn.

 

Pikemen would have been cut down by archers long before the Cavalry charge. Cavalry is not a assault unit.That's the infantry's job.

 

 

Like i said, cavalry during American conquest NO LONGER USE ARMOR, which part you do not understand? American natives bows are not strong, they only use for hunting, around 75 to 85 pound, not for war. But because of white men no longer use armor, even hunting bow can kill them

 

In medieval time, British Longbow have atleast 120 pound strength, even that cannot penetrate armor unless taking some measure and tactic. Dragon Age set up is medieval, not American conquest era.

 

And i said pikemen DEFEND archers from cavalry charge

 

 

Compare both...you think American native hunting bow can kill medieval European knights on horses?

[Tidus]

Those Indian bows was used to hunt buffalo and could easily kill their enemy.

 

Again the Cavalry would never lead a attack it would be suicidal. A battle would start with infantry charging the enemy's line and once that line broke the Cavalry would charge.

 

Do you fully understand that being mounted puts the trooper at a disadvantage?  Once he's committed to a mêlée fight then his time is limited since he would be swarmed by the enemy infantry and pulled from his horse or his horse would be shot from underneath him this includes Darkspawn.  

 

Your pictures is of a knight dress for jousting not combat. The modern day video proves nothing except a theory. In those old times  weapons was made differently then we think today. Bows and arrows and crossbows was deadly weapons in the hands of a trained archer.

 

That trooper has a sword-he can only attack one enemy at a time on either side of his horse. He's dead before he can get started..

[Qis]

Wrong, cavalry could lead an attack, depends on situation and battle style. Mongol army consits mainly cavalry, and they are various types of cavalry, both light and heavy. They are nomad people, horse riding is everyday life, and so their army, and they wreck everyone during their time.

 

The same with Arabs, they have mainly cavalry because of the desert condition is not suitable for infantry, it is easier to move on horse or camel, that's the only reason why Roman troop never go to far into Arabian peninsular, Roman troops are mostly infantry. Byzantine lost with Arabs because of Khaled AlWaled have excellent cavalry and his tactic is hit and run.

 

Of course the picture is knight armor for jousting, but you get the idea, the example you give, dragoon, is not the same at all with medieval cavalry. An Arrow is not easily penetrate armor.

 

In medieval warfare, archers are either protected by pike/spearmen, or they are placed where cavalry cannot reach, it is because archers are cavalry target to be wiped out on battlefield.

[Sifr]

If you ask Dennet about his background, he mentions he got his job after his predecessor died after catching the Blight from some of the horses in the stables. We're told in Origins that the Darkspawn had been active in the south for a while before the battle of Ostagar, so depending on how far they spread and when the outbreak happened, perhaps there weren't any horses that could be spared for the battle?

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 Furthermore, Cailan should be on a horse as a king

 

Nah,Incitatus was in his stable in marble at Denerim.

Glorious!

[Donquijote and 59 others]

If you ask Dennet about his background, he mentions he got his job after his predecessor died after catching the Blight from some of the horses in the stables. We're told in Origins that the Darkspawn had been active in the south for a while before the battle of Ostagar, so depending on how far they spread and when the outbreak happened, perhaps there weren't any horses that could be spared for the battle?

Nah,i don't think so.

The taint killed all the horses but not all the humans? Despite Cailan was saying they won all those little battles.

The truth is that there  are no horses they don't exsist the only  mount i saw was a cow from the random dwarf merchant directly from Orzamar!.