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There is something wrong here,Morrigan and the Mythal Guardian


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Morrigan may even fall from the stratosphere on her feet without any kind of repercussion,what is physics for a writer pet?

She may even be not infected by the taint of the red lyrium when she was injured by her teeth...... erm because reasons of plot armour.


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Morrigan may even fall from the stratosphere on her feet without any kind of repercussion,what is physics for a writer pet?

She may even be not infected by the taint of the red lyrium when she was injured by her teeth...... erm because reasons of plot armour.

She's basically like Leliana. Supposed to be dead in certain states, but still kicking because the plot demands it. I'm sure they will come up with something to explain her survival though (like Leliana being a lyrium ghost), though with Morrigan they can just chalk it up to her being "exceptionally strong" and calling it a day.



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She's basically like Leliana. Supposed to be dead in certain states, but still kicking because the plot demands it. I'm sure they will come up with something to explain her survival though (like Leliana being a lyrium ghost), though with Morrigan they can just chalk it up to her being "exceptionally strong" and calling it a day.


So strong that somehow she can stand more harm than her mother, her sister, her son's imaginary friend, the priests of such friend and his gang and even her fellow writer's pet (who died), all of them have more impressive feats than her and respawn tricks (except Leliana, she's quite incompetent and her revival was illogical).
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So strong that somehow she can stand more harm than her mother, her sister, her son's imaginary friend, the priests of such friend and his gang and even her fellow writer's pet (who died), all of them have more impressive feats than her and respawn tricks 

Can you please stop to use logic?
It isn't accepted on Bsn


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The clash is an instant kill damage, no healing can help from such drastic situations.
Is like to say that Wynne will try to heal herself after being dead.

 

 

You have not checked confirmed Spirit Healer abilities. Lifeward, replaced in DAI with Guardian Spirit. Lifeward heals when you would normally fall, Guardian Spirit protects you againist death by springing up a barrier that will take the brunt of the attack, leaving you standing (barely, but standing).

 

Then apply some of Spirit Healer's shtick, and poof, she could easily get away with nothing but a bruised rib...



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You have not checked confirmed Spirit Healer abilities. Lifeward, replaced in DAI with Guardian Spirit. Lifeward heals when you would normally fall, Guardian Spirit protects you againist death by springing up a barrier that will take the brunt of the attack, leaving you standing (barely, but standing).

 

Then apply some of Spirit Healer's shtick, and poof, she could easily get away with nothing but a bruised rib...

Dragon age inquisition mechanics forbid the player(the inquisitor) to die from a fall or high fall it is a game mechanic that has nothing to do with ability of guardian of spirit.
Morrigan was completely overcame by the red lyrium dragon before of the clash with the floor,saying that a barrier was activated in time and that it was strong enough to save someone which was already injured from a fall of high altitude is a double assumption,then again i didn't see any barrier.


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Do we know that a barrier is something people can actually see? Is it confirmed somewhere that the blue glow isn't just visual shorthand for "something magical is affecting this character"? Like the floating shields for that one ability whose name I can't remember. Those shields don't really exist.



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- I got crushed by giant - I mean he jumped in the air and crash landed on my small elfy frame.

- I fell off a cliff.

- A dragon crushed me and burned my bones.

- This big Avvar crusher...slammed his giant hammer into my bones.

- Wolves ate me.

- I went into the Fade physically.

- I was the sole survivor of a major explosion that ripped the sky apart.

- I was semi-murdered by a bear

- Fade demons clawed me to shreds.

- Some other stuff.

 

And...I didn't die. Weird. Poor magical Morrigan...she's only Flemeth's daughter, a witch of the wilds, shapeshifter, possible mother to a godchild, survivor of the 5th Blight, and smart enough to find out how to manipulate the eluvians. I have no idea how she survived a fall...tis strange. 



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- I got crushed by giant - I mean he jumped in the air and crash landed on my small elfy frame.
- I fell off a cliff.
- A dragon crushed me and burned my bones.
- This big Avvar crusher...slammed his giant hammer into my bones.
- Wolves ate me.
- I went into the Fade physically.
- I was the sole survivor of a major explosion that ripped the sky apart.
- I was semi-murdered by a bear
- Fade demons clawed me to shreds.
- Some other stuff.
 
And...I didn't die. Weird. Poor magical Morrigan...she's only Flemeth's daughter, a witch of the wilds, shapeshifter, possible mother to a godchild, survivor of the 5th Blight, and smart enough to find out how to manipulate the eluvians. I have no idea how she survived a fall...tis strange.


Game mechanics, you weren't stamped by a giant on a cinematic (only then your argument would be valid) on cinematics the murder knife is enough to kill someone.

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Game mechanics, you weren't stamped by a giant on a cinematic (only then your argument would be valid) on cinematics the murder knife is enough to kill someone.

 

Got it. 

 

Game Mechanics...exactly.



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Well, I'm glad Morrigan did not die. I don;t really want to see her again, but I'm glad she didn't die.

 

I feel really bad about the Guardian Dragon. We pressed her into service, threw her at that red lyrium aberration, and forced her to her death.

 

It is an interesting idea, though, that with that bite from the RLD, and all that bloood Morrigan could have been infected. Geez, with her power, and that well of sorrows, combined with red lyrium madness....I would think that the voices in her head should be able to advise her on how to heal from a red lyrium infection, but I'm not sure even the ....voices..know what's up with red lyrium.



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Lol what armor? Those witch rags?
Gravity is not an opinion....you can't survive even with the most awesome armor unless it
Is plot armor!

Morrigan accepted the Well of Sorrows which comes with who knows what kinds of extra benefits, especially to someone who could properly utilize its power. There's also the fact that we don't know exactly what killed the Mythal Guardian. Was it the fall, was it wounds that could have been avoided by Morrigan having a human intelligence. Could the fact that she is a really powerful mage and not her "real" body have anything to do with it? We don't know.

 

Edit: Point is that Morrigan isn't a "regular" dragon. She has her own rules whose only comparison is Flemeth. Flemeth was killed by potentially hundreds of cuts, burns, plagues, arrows, etc. She did not die from a fall and thus we can only assume based on the information given to us that Morrigan survived based on 1. Her intelligence potentially effecting her fall 2. Unknown properties of the Well of Sorrows (and its introduction into Morrigan's physiology 3. Morrigan not dying from the initial fall and being saved by an Inquisition soldier. Too many variables.

 

Can you argue her being a "writer's pet"? No, because than you have to argue that about any character who returns. I'm pretty sure they love all their characters and would bring them back if they could.



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Can you argue her being a "writer's pet"? No, because than you have to argue that about any character who returns. I'm pretty sure they love all their characters and would bring them back if they could.

Of course i can since this is the second time she was saved by a plot armor
There are 3 main reasons that  classify her as a writer pet:
 
-The first one was her survival against the warden  in which she survived because
"reasons of the warden who pushed her into the mirror for no reason instead to kill her" which was an evident  plot armor because she was the coconut of the lead writer(while all the others companions of DAO are killable)
 
 
-The second because she survived against the taint of the red lyrium dragon (no infection after being injured by a tainted dragon full of red lyrium?) and a gravity fall from the clouds and she didn't dodged the clash with the floor while the Mythal guardian a bigger dragon than her die.
 
-The 3rd Because she is in three games and on Dlc and even the final narrator of a game.
DAO,DAI,Last court,WH and now the whole inheritor thing of Mythal


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Of course i can since this is the second time she was saved by a plot armor
There are 3 main reasons that  classify her as a writer pet:
 
-The first one was her survival against the warden  in which she survived because
"reasons of the warden who pushed her into the mirror for no reason instead to kill her" which was an evident  plot armor because she was the coconut of the lead writer(while all the others companions of DAO are killable)
 
 
-The second because she survived against the taint of the red lyrium dragon (no infection after being injured by a tainted dragon full of red lyrium?) and a gravity fall from the clouds and she didn't dodged the clash with the floor while the Mythal guardian a bigger dragon than her die.
 
-The 3rd Because she is in three games and on Dlc and even the final narrator of a game.
DAO,DAI,Last court,WH and now the whole inheritor thing of Mythal

 

1. Who actually believed she was dead? The entire scene is framed so that you believe that she survived. She is stabbed and falls through a portal where her ultimate fate is left up in the air. I get when people complain about Leliana because you can actually see her "die", but Morrigan is stabbed and falls through the portal. She doesn't land at your feet, doesn't get decapitated. She gets stabbed and happens to be a very powerful mage who saved your life at the start of the game from the very same issue.

 

2. The Inquisitor and every single follower can be bitten or clawed by this dragon (and hundreds of creatures with red lyrium) without getting infected. To complain about that for Morrigan is disingenuous. It's creating reasons that don't exist. As for the fall refer to my post. She has plenty of reasons to survive the fall because she is special. The Well of Sorrows is a complete unknown. How powerful Morrigan is now is a complete unknown. Magic defies physics, especially ancient elven magic that made people into gods.

 

3. She's an original character. Was the poster child for the first game. You're going to see her because she's tied to the core narrative of the franchise. You can dislike her, but she's easy to fit into literally any spot in any game. Had Solas been debuted in Origins instead it would have been him. If you're complaining about that *shrugs* idk what to tell you. It's common in fiction to have reoccurring characters.



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-The second because she survived against the taint of the red lyrium dragon (no infection after being injured by a tainted dragon full of red lyrium?)...

 

And none of your party members in all three games or other guys, who fight against darkspawn, e.g. the whole army in the battle of Denerim, is infected by the corruption of the darkspawn. In "The Calling" everybody has to use a special antidote to survive the fights.



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And none of your party members in all three games or other guys, who fight against darkspawn, e.g. the whole army in the battle of Denerim, is infected by the corruption of the darkspawn. In "The Calling" everybody has to use a special antidote to survive the fights.


Bethany/Carver, we also know that Leliana has an inusual endurance against the Blight.
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1. Who actually believed she was dead? The entire scene is framed so that you believe that she survived. She is stabbed and falls through a portal where her ultimate fate is left up in the air. I get when people complain about Leliana because you can actually see her "die", but Morrigan is stabbed and falls through the portal. She doesn't land at your feet, doesn't get decapitated. She gets stabbed and happens to be a very powerful mage who saved your life at the start of the game from the very same issue.

 

 

3. She's an original character.

 

You didn't understood this point,the warden was completely out of the player control and in  autonomy decided to spare Morrigan because she is a writer pet.

She don't escape is the waden who push her in the mirror instead to continue the attack ,the warden who don't cross the eluvian to see if she is dead despite the eluvian was still good in short she was protected by a plot armor there.

 

 

what does this even mean?The others char of DA are false?Lol



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And none of your party members in all three games or other guys, who fight against darkspawn, e.g. the whole army in the battle of Denerim, is infected by the corruption of the darkspawn. In "The Calling" everybody has to use a special antidote to survive the fights.

Yes because in order to be infected contact with  fluids like spit or blood is necessary and Morrigan was very much bitten by the red Lyrium dragon.
Also there are many at Ostagar who were infected
 
 
Cast of DAO:
The warden=can't be infected because is a GW
Alistair=Can't be infected because is a GW
Loghain=Can't be infected because is a GW
Shale=Can't be infected because is a Golem
Leliana=Can't be infected because is blight resistant
Sten=Qunari with dragon blood resistant to the taint
Wynne=Mage abomination healer protected by a spirit who as a mage don't fight the darkspawn in melee
Dog=If not of HN origin is blight resistant and probably even the human noble dog got the flower off-screen when he was with Duncan
Oghren(non DAA version ),Morrigan and Zevran are the only one who are the exception here but since Oghren is an expert  against the darkspawns being a dwarf of Orzamar i can expect him to resist the infection like most dwarf of the warrior cast.


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There is something wrong with Morrigan or more likely with the ex lead writer of bioware who gave her all this plot armors because was enamoured with the character.
One of these plot armors is in the end-game of DAO where you go "I should have killed you before." and she says "Now you won't get the chance to." and just walks off RIGHT BESIDE YOU and you stand there with arms folded.