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[eyezonlyii]

Right, and Thedas already has that. I just don't see why it working as a facility within the Circle.

Because access. If mages can't get out into the world, being some of the world to them. I know not every circle is as strict as Kirkwall or Kinloch, but I doubt many let the mages pop into town whenever.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

threat.  best security

 

 world threats

 

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TKS is a Bsn-world threat!

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Of all the absolutely mind boggling rubbish I've seen you write on this forum, that has got to be the best of the worst. Criminals don't get a choice in being locked because wait for it......THEY BROKE THE LAW. It is not illegal to be a Mage, and to suggest that every single one of them should be locked up because you may get the occasional bad one, is as absurd as locking up people who may one day commit a crime, but haven't yet.

Tks has a Qunari mindset..It's an alien form of thinking,so don't mind too much if you don't comprehend

because  nobody can Lol

[MidnightWolf]

Tks has a Qunari mindset..

That, and the fact he simply enjoys being argumentative for the sake of arguing.

[The Baconer]

Because access. If mages can't get out into the world, being some of the world to them. I know not every circle is as strict as Kirkwall or Kinloch, but I doubt many let the mages pop into town whenever.

Setting a universal standard for time off would be one of the required reforms in my mind. I think it's just more realistic than the alternative.

[TheKomandorShepard]

That, and the fact he simply enjoys being argumentative for the sake of arguing.

Not rly, i have mindset of every functioning government and that mindset is survival.

 

Considering your emotional outburst in your last response and that you disregarded almost everything including main point of the post, outside criminal part that you tried use to envoke emotional response from others i doubt that you understand security is necessary basis to create stable society. 

[Andromelek]

Sure, Cortana, sure.

[fizzypop]

So if the Blight hadn't been caused by a bunch of mages, but rather a bunch of warriors, it would be OK to lock up every person who had the strength to be a warrior for their entire life no matter how unrelated they are to those original few? 

people who think its cool to lock up an entire population for the actions of a few don't even realize how that very thing happened in human history and still is. They don't see the injustice there. Why would they see it in a fictional depiction? Sadly, we humans are mostly morons.

[TheKomandorShepard]

people who think its cool to lock up an entire population for the actions of a few don't even realize how that very thing happened in human history and still is. Why would they see it in a fictional depiction? Sadly, we humans are mostly morons.

LoL, they aren't locked out because of actions of the few at least not in the sense that they are blamed for causing blights. Mages are locked out because they are threat to mankind and society safety , for same reason sick that are put under quarantine are isolated from rest of the society and kept under control. That is not being a moron that is being smart and ensuring own survival.

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[fizzypop]

LoL, they aren't locked out because of actions of the few at least not in the sense that they are blamed for causing blights. Mages are locked out because they are threat to mankind and society safety , for same reason sick that are put under quarantine are isolated from rest of the society and kept under control.

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Yes they are. They are locked up because they might one day hurt someone. One day I might too. Do you see me in jail? Nope. Let's not pretend we aren't being bigoted as **** with this. If you replace "mages" with any actual group of people irl you would see how wrong it is. If you don't then you probably are exactly the kind of person I am talking about.

Also btw people believed that poor white people and blacks were "threats to mankind and society"...just sayin' check your language. We don't quarantine our sick without knowing that they are sick. We rarely do so. I mean I get the flu I can still walk around and do ****...this is like the worst argument ever.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yes they are. They are locked up because they might one day hurt someone. One day I might too. Do you see me in jail? Nope. Let's not pretend we aren't being bigoted as **** with this. If you replace "mages" with any actual group of people irl you would see how wrong it is. If you don't then you probably are exactly the kind of person I am talking about.

Also btw people believed that poor white people and blacks were "threats to mankind and society"...just sayin' check your language. We don't quarantine our sick without knowing that they are sick. We rarely do so. I mean I get the flu I can still walk around and do ****...this is like the worst argument ever.

My god , how often i see that ridiculous logic among pro-mages.  Threat that normal person poses is nowhere near to that threat that mage poses , comparing mage to a normal person here is like comparing a knife to nuclear bomb just basing on mere fact those objects are dangerous not on basis how dangerous they are.

 

Yes and we put sick under quarantine because they are threat , we know mages are mages and being mage means being dangerous just as being sick in that case means. 

 

 

[MidnightWolf]

Not rly, i have mindset of every functioning government and that mindset is survival.
 
Considering your emotional outburst in your last response and that you disregarded almost everything including main point of the post, outside criminal part that you tried use to envoke emotional response from others i doubt that you understand security is necessary basis to create stable society.

Lol. What emotional outburst did I have exactly? If you think my opposing your view is "an emotional outburst" then I suggest you stop using such big words, since you clearly lack the proper understanding of what an emotional outburst is. Nice try at trying to bait me though.

[straykat]

I read a fanfic that explored this perfectly. The set up was what if Carver Hawke, training all his young life to be a Templar, ended up being a mage. The meat of the story took place after Dragon Age 2 and of course being a fanfic, was ultimately about Carver and Cullen getting together, but the realization that a Templar was to be the rock for the mage is what drove the story. 

 

This is especially true when you consider what Cole says of Templars, "They make the world more 'real'." So they should be a calming force on a mage, not a reason for stress and insecurity. 

And I wonder what would happen if a mage went through the meditative process that a Seeker goes through. We know they're made Tranquil and then cured by a spirit, but the differences between that and the Rite of Tranquility is the voluntary aspect of it and the process and time necessary for the change to occur, or so I believe. Cassandra talks about the Euphoria she got when everything came flooding back, but is still in control of her emotions as opposed to the mage in the book that went crazy.

 

I'd rather we just stayed away from Spirits completely. I feel sorry for Cassandra too.

 

We (that is, mortals) need control of this world. I think that's what makes badass mages too. When their two feet are planted firmly here and they are in full command of their powers.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Lol. What emotional outburst did I have exactly? If you think my opposing your view is "an emotional outburst" then I suggest you stop using such big words, since you clearly lack the proper understanding of what an emotional outburst is. Nice try at trying to bait me though.

Pretty much in your previous post you attacked my person in rather agressive manner with those words:

 

Of all the absolutely mind boggling rubbish I've seen you write on this forum, that has got to be the best of the worst.

 

Then you proceed ignore whole entire point presented in my post and focused on single example i used i ignoring other examples i posted despite them violating criteria you were talking about as it was proving my statement wrong or something, post tried refute my points with evoking emotions rather than proper logic that would prove my point wrong.

 

I don't think i need to add more on that topic,Second thing, im not trying to bait you in first place you tried to respond on my comment and then you made comment about my person if something you would be one baiting me.  

[Voidinist]

Let's not pretend we aren't being bigoted as **** with this. If you replace "mages" with any actual group of people irl you would see how wrong it is.

 

lmao let me know when any group of people IRL develops superpowers.

[MidnightWolf]

Pretty much in your previous post you attacked my person in rather agressive manner with those words:



Then you proceed ignore whole entire point presented in my post and focused on single example i used i ignoring other examples i posted despite them violating criteria you were talking about as it was proving my statement wrong or something, post tried refute my points with evoking emotions rather than proper logic that would prove my point wrong.

I don't think i need to add more on that topic,Second thing, im not trying to bait you in first place you tried to respond on my comment and then you made comment about my person if something you would be one baiting me.

I ignored the rest of your post, because I was responding to the illogical part of your post which compares criminals to mages. And that criminals don't get a choice in being locked up, so why should mages. THAT is what you said.
Earlier today I said you enjoy being argumentative for the sake of arguing......and here you are. Your proving me right.
I've yet to see your proof that my poking holes in your illogical post, is me having a "emotional outburst" as you put it? But you carry on trolling fella.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I ignored the rest of your post, because I was responding to the illogical part of your post which compares criminals to mages. And that criminals don't get a choice in being locked up, so why should mages. THAT is what you said.
Earlier today I said you enjoy being argumentative for the sake of arguing......and here you are. Your proving me right.
I've yet to see your proof that my poking holes in your illogical post, is me having a "emotional outburst" as you put it? But you carry on trolling fella.

Once again you have ignored important part of my post that was pretty much explaining emotional outburst part, fond of doing that aren't you?Plus, you were once again who started this conversation by insulting content of my posts and started to talk about me , so how im exactly a troll here?

 

Except it fits example, criminals are locked against their will because they are threat to society (that is of course only 1 of reasons that frame creating stable and secure society), that they broke the law merly proved that they are threat due to actively deviating from society norms and disrupting its stability. Mages are locked because they are threat just as criminals are (much larger one that criminals), difference is only in that criminals frame in it that case normal people that are classified as criminals and threat due commiting crime while mages are classified as threat  due to being mage.

 

If by that you mean i argue often because person i argue with is wrong then yes. 

[Secret Rare]

 Mages are locked out because they are threat to mankind and society safety , for same reason sick that are put under quarantine are isolated from rest of the society and kept under control. That is not being a moron that is being smart and ensuring own survival.

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Now we are reaching  the point of considering magic as a disease?

 

I ignored the rest of your post, because I was responding to the illogical part of your post which compares criminals to mages. 

From what i grapsed from his mind boggling thoughts he consider mages like persons afflicted by some kind of disease

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

Now we are reaching  the point of considering magic as a disease?

 

From what i grapsed from his mind boggling thoughts he consider mages like persons afflicted by some kind of disease

 

 

It is, in a way of course, same as disease it is a threat and needs to be properly dealt with in order to mantain safety and stability within society by that ensuring its survival.

[MidnightWolf]

Once again you have ignored important part of my post that was pretty much explaining emotional outburst part, fond of doing that aren't you?Plus, you were once again who started this conversation by insulting content of my posts and started to talk about me , so how im exactly a troll here?

Except it fits example, criminals are locked against their will because they are threat to society (that is of course only 1 of reasons that frame creating stable and secure society), that they broke the law merly proved that they are threat due to actively deviating from society norms and disrupting its stability. Mages are locked because they are threat just as criminals are (much larger one that criminals), difference is only in that criminals frame in it that case normal people that are classified as criminals and threat due commiting crime while mages are classified as threat due to being mage.

If by that you mean i argue often because person i argue with is wrong then yes.

I haven't ignored anything fella. I have however noticed that your 'fond' of telling others who degree with you, what they are 'fond' of.

[MidnightWolf]

Now we are reaching  the point of considering magic as a disease?
 

From what i grapsed from his mind boggling thoughts he consider mages like persons afflicted by some kind of disease

Me too.

[MidnightWolf]

It is, in a way of course, same as disease it is a threat and needs to be properly dealt with in order to mantain safety and stability within society by that ensuring its survival.

I think sheep who walk on two legs are ignorant fools, does that mean they should all be locked up or exterminated?

[MidnightWolf]

I think he does too.

What happened here? I was trying to edit my post, not quote myself. Ignore please.

[straykat]

You could have Andraste and David Gaider say magic isn't that bad, and he still would carry on this course.

[The Baconer]

There are some wonderful features in this forum that are too-often overlooked... but I guess that's none of my business.