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New info about DA4's protagonist! Also... DA4 won't reveal much about dwarves?


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Tell me what you think. Personally, I am rather shocked. The ending from my perspective indicated that Inquisitor would be the protagonist (either solo or dual). Also... Why dwarves are not mentioned? Will DA5 focus on them?

 

Tell me what you think.


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Tell me what you think. Personally, I am rather shocked. The ending from my perspective indicated that Inquisitor would be the protagonist (either solo or dual). Also... Why dwarves are not mentioned? Will DA5 focus on them?

 

Tell me what you think.

 

Why would you be shocked? Bioware made it clear there will always be a new PC in each game. 


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Tell me what you think. Personally, I am rather shocked. The ending from my perspective indicated that Inquisitor would be the protagonist (either solo or dual). Also... Why dwarves are not mentioned? Will DA5 focus on them?

 

Tell me what you think.

 

 

Goood!!! I can finally breath and shake the fear of having to choose from not buying the next game or get forced to play with such a boring and bland PC.


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Why would you be shocked? Bioware made it clear there will always be a new PC in each game. 

I would not mind, but Trespasser did not close Inquisitor's story. Many ppl on twitter complained about it too. 


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Goood!!! I can finally breath and shake the fear of having to choose from not buying the next game or get forced to play with such a boring and bland PC.

There is still a chance you will play it if Bio decides to do sth like the original DAI ending where you controlled Solas to get to Mythal.



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I would not mind, but Trespasser did not close Inquisitor's story. Many ppl on twitter complained about it too. 

 

They did the same thing with Hawke, with the cliffhanger trope and all.


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Tell me what you think. Personally, I am rather shocked. The ending from my perspective indicated that Inquisitor would be the protagonist (either solo or dual). Also... Why dwarves are not mentioned? Will DA5 focus on them?

 

Tell me what you think.

 

Apparently Bioware thinks 2/3 isn't bad on achieving design goals. 


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I'm sure we'll see more about dwarves in future games. These are specifically trespassers goals and therefore mention only the franchise elements that trespasser relates too. Descent setup future dwarven storylines.


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I agree Trespasser suggested a continuation, but I'm not surprised at all.
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Apparently Bioware thinks 2/3 isn't bad on achieving design goals. 

Haha, you made my day :) !



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Why dwarves are not mentioned? Will DA5 focus on them?

 

Remember that's a list of their goals for Trespasser, not for DA4. The dwarf stuff was already set up in The Descent. (Which doesn't mean that we'll necessarily learn more about Titans in DA4. But this doesn't mean that we won't, either.)

 

ETA: :ph34r:


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I don't think that's the general idea for DA4. As far as we know, we don't know exactly what will be involved aside from Solas, ancient elves, Qunari, and Tevinter. Also, there is a chance that some new ideas (i.e. dwarves) will be added in the base game, DLC, or future installments.



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I'm not surprised, I felt that the IQ would take on an advisory role going forward and we'd get a new protagonist.  I can't see how they'd carry through all the choices available for your IQ so it would make more sense for them to draw a line under it and move on.

 

So I hope we'll see him/her in a Leliana/Cullen role next game.

 

Oh, and I love 'give the feels'.  They certainly hit that goal.  :D


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I'm sure we'll see more about dwarves in future games. These are specifically trespassers goals and therefore mention only the franchise elements that trespasser relates too. Descent setup future dwarven storylines.

Yup, I agree. I was actually glad that the game won't focus much on dwarves, coz it suggests that DA4 is not the last game in the series.



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Remember that's a list of their goals for Trespasser, not for DA4. The dwarf stuff was already set up in The Descent. (Which doesn't mean that we'll necessarily learn more about Titans in DA4. But this doesn't mean that we won't, either.)

 

ETA: :ph34r:

Yeah, I know. But I guess they meant that Titans won't be a major problem in DA4. Which makes sense , coz with Qunari threat and Solas going rogue, the protagonist will be super busy already.



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That's great, if true.



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I'm officially out of Bioware games if this is the case. Which is a shame, as Dragon Age was rather special to me for a number of reasons.


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I'm officially out of Bioware games if this is the case. Which is a shame, as Dragon Age was rather special to me for a number of reasons.

Because of Inquisitor not being the protagonist or because the next IP wont focus on dwarves?



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I'm not surprised at all; I would have been surprised if the Inquisitor did return as the protag, actually. I'm not sure if it's dependent on certain choices, but one of my Inquisitor's lines at the end of Trespasser, even with the decision to keep the Inquisition in power, was something like "my adventure days are over." Although I think their story and influence could continue in other ways, it seemed like a pretty clear farewell to me.

 

I enjoy having a new a protagonist each game, too, so as much as I love my Inquisitors, I'm looking forward to crafting someone new.

 

(Coooome on, human commoner origin.)


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IMO, devs already said that Solas's plot will conclude in the next game so I am predicting that the focus will be first on the Tevinter-Qunari War and then shift to Solas plans.

 

The Titans were enemies of the entire Evanuris, they are a step further from Solas who was just a single one of them.

 

The Inquisitor not being the MC was a given since she/he lost her/his arm and playing a powerful but crippled character would be too complicated.

 

My hope is that whoever becomes the next MC is the final one, too many Choosen make the plot broken, we need a Shepard who can keep going against even the top beings of the setting.



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My hope is that whoever becomes the next MC is the final one, too many Choosen make the plot broken, we need a Shepard who can keep going against even the top beings of the setting.

 

If they're not going to bring the Inquisitor back because "reasons" you can bet your good hat they won't bring anyone back. In fact, they will set up a perfect story for them, and have the next protag finish it. Plus, to cite what so many have said. They want "new PC's every time because Thedas is the protagonist".

 

I'm bitter, i know. I'll get over it eventually.

 

Though the title of this thread is kinda misleading. There's nothing here about the new MC. To split hairs, it doesn't even say the Inquisitor won't be the PC of the next game (not implying they will be). I just says "this is what we wanted to achieve".


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"Conclusively tie off this protagonist"....uh....I'd say that was an epic fail. Of the endings of the three DA games, none suggested more strongly that its protagonist would play a part in the next game than DAI's.

 

Oh I don't think they'll bring the Inquisitor back as the protagonist, and I'm very much ok with that because I wouldn't want them back, but that doesn't change that Trespasser suggests they might, and even that it might be appropriate.


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"Conclusively tie off this protagonist"....uh....I'd say that was an epic fail. Of the endings of the three DA games, none suggested more strongly that its protagonist would play a part in the next game than DAI's.

 

Oh I don't think they'll bring the Inquisitor back as the protagonist, but that doesn't change that Trespasser suggests they might, and even that it might be appropriate.

 

My joking aside, Bioware clearly distinguishes between retiring a character, and their role in the story, and disqualifying the character from being a "main" character. DA:I strips the Inquisitor of two things: (i) the Anchor, and the superlative power over nature; and (ii) the Inquisition (whether it disbands or becomes an arm of the Chantry, the Inquisitor is no longer the dominant force controlling it). 


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My joking aside, Bioware clearly distinguishes between retiring a character, and their role in the story, and disqualifying the character from being a "main" character. DA:I strips the Inquisitor of two things: (i) the Anchor, and the superlative power over nature; and (ii) the Inquisition (whether it disbands or becomes an arm of the Chantry, the Inquisitor is no longer the dominant force controlling it). 

But they still have their contacts and Leliana's network. Which means our inquisitors, were they to be protagonists again, would still start out at a power level higher than our other protagonists in DA games. There is nothing in Trespasser that conclusively disqualifies the Inquisitor from being a main character again, except for the lost arm, and that's more because of game mechanics and the convention that the main character must be able to fight than anything story-related. Even more to the point, Trespasser actually *adds* elements that would fit a main character - a new antagonist and a personal interest in opposing this antagonist. I maintain this attempt at a tie-off is a failure.

 

I wish it wasn't, really.


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Meh, I wouldn't read too deeply into a 29 word powerpoint slide - none of the information here is exactly surprising, just a little interesting.

 

It's just the skeleton of what their goals were, at some point, with Trespasser. I don't think this is anywhere near enough to rule out heaps of new Dwarven lore in DA4, do not worry yet! :D