I'm good with this. Small scale stories are more interesting for me personally, and they're more manageable as far as the setting goes. Completely abolishing slavery in Tevinter with zero consequences (or consequences that are impossible to implement in future installments)? Probably not happening. Progressive reform with realistic results and hope for the future? Doable. Same with the Qunari situation, the mages, Seheron...
Eh, slavery isn't really something abolished by degrees
In regards to the announcement, I'm a little irritated, cause while their stated intent was to "tie off" and conclude the Inquisitor's story, I feel like they did just the opposite. I finally have a vested interest in fighting an antagonist through my Inquisitor. All that great development pretty much goes out the window, cause now that Solas is the next big threat, my DA4 character won't have as much a history and reason to fight Solas as my Inquisitor did. And that's a shame, cause they set up DA4 so well in regards to giving me an antagonist that I actually give a damn about.
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Tell me what you think. Personally, I am rather shocked. The ending from my perspective indicated that Inquisitor would be the protagonist (either solo or dual). Also... Why dwarves are not mentioned? Will DA5 focus on them?
Tell me what you think.
If this is true... well... they didn't accomplish point one. What I've seen so far is half of the fan base expects the Inquisitor to return. Based on my own game experience, I wouldn't have been surprised if the Quizzy returned. So, look out the window, Bioware.
I am excited about more on the eluvians and ancient elves. Could care less about the Qunari, except maybe to see their current culture eradicated. I mean seriously, it's an abomination, even worse than the dwarven caste system... and that needs a boot to the arse as well.
Point three, well, even people who have a ton to complain about keep coming back to the boards. So I'd say they scored in the feels department. Certainly did in my case.
Ideally, no. But I don't think we're going to be able to punch Tevinter into submission. Maybe aggressively negotiate, blackmail, and bribe...
Eh, slavery isn't really something abolished by degrees
Slavery was abolished in Tevinter once. Then they killed the guy who abolished it and brought it back. I'd wonder how it even could be abolished with the sheer amount of fools in Tevinter
Hessarian kind of did. Or rather, he drummed up the hate machine and got the underclasses of Tevinter to do the punching for him. We just need to find the next Hessarian, hopefully one who commits to a more thorough regime change.
Slavery was abolished in Tevinter once. Then they killed the guy who abolished it and brought it back. I'd wonder how it even could be abolished with the sheer amount of fools in Tevinter
Okay, let me rephrase: I don't think it could be immediately and permanently abolished without the PC's (or Dorian, or Mae, or any other reformer's) head ending up on a pike, and even if it did I'd like to see real consequences... the collapse of Tevinter's infrastructure, for one, and what happens to all the former slaves. Maybe they resent their position like Varania did, or they head to Par Vollen, or they make the best of it and cut off the heads of their oppressors in glorious revenge..?
I don't think it'll be simple, is all.
The thing with Tevinter is it knows how to manipulate, indoctrinate and keep its slaves divided. It could happen, but the slaves themselves would need to have a hand. It's possible. Provided the PC is clever about it, and allows those slaves and their sympathisers to get their act together. But the best kind of change is slow, or it won't be believeable
The thing with Tevinter is it knows how to manipulate, indoctrinate and keep its slaves divided. It could happen, but the slaves themselves would need to have a hand. It's possible. Provided the PC is clever about it, and allows those slaves and their sympathisers to get their act together. But the best kind of change is slow, or it won't be believeable
Also: blood magic.
pssh, every non PC blood mage ever has been useless. I'm not worried. I'm sure at least one of my team will have a massive axe
pssh, every non PC blood mage ever has been useless. I'm not worried. I'm sure at least one of my team will have a massive axe
Magister Titus wasn't useless! There's hope for them yet.
Kind of funny though how Jowan is the first blood mage we meet in DAO...
Slow is the only way I could imagine it happening without Tevinter succumbing to the Qunari. I can't imagine any way Tevinter could resist the Qunari while a slave revolt is going on. Not to mention, the Qunari would probably be promoting the revolt.The thing with Tevinter is it knows how to manipulate, indoctrinate and keep its slaves divided. It could happen, but the slaves themselves would need to have a hand. It's possible. Provided the PC is clever about it, and allows those slaves and their sympathisers to get their act together. But the best kind of change is slow, or it won't be believeable
Slow is the only way I could imagine it happening without Tevinter succumbing to the Qunari. I can't imagine any way Tevinter could resist the Qunari while a slave revolt is going on. Not to mention, the Qunari would probably be promoting the revolt.
...It pains me to say it, but I think I'd help the magisters keep their slaves and hope for eventual emancipation rather than allow a Qunari driven slave revolt lead Tevinter into the Qun (I hate the Qun that much)
If the Qunari won, everybody would be a slave. It would be a necessary short term sacrifice.
I really hope they don't do a "Support Tevinter or Support Qun" choice and that choice meaning that you have to agree with them entirely.
I'm hoping for the opportunity to bring down both.
The Inquisitor isn't bland. They're just not as excessively - and often contrivedly - dramatic as most of Bioware's other protagonists. I can actually say something reasonable in a reasonable tone to someone, most of the time. I like that and don't want it to change.
Also, as I said: you can infuse a more neutral line with emotion, since emotion is invisible. But you can't take emotion out of a forcibly dramatic line. The Inquisitor was better for roleplaying than all other voiced protagonists Bioware has made.
Regardless of my opinion on the Inquisitor's dialogue, Nefla was responding to someone who did indeed think that style made the Inquisitor bland. As such, if Bioware reuses this style, that person will think the new protagonist is bland as well.
Personally, I would have liked to see how we could develop the Inquisitor in another game now that they are not a figurehead, have more agency, and a more personal story. What could have been, and all that.
Yeah, for me, dialogue and intonation aside, what made the Inquisitor less engaging for me was the fact that the majority of our actions didn't have real choice. Even if previous games didn't provide many choices, just the illusion of choice, I think they better hid our lack of agency. As has been pointed out, sidequests were just various ways to accept the quest, and then usually the Inquisitor had no reaction upon completion of the quest. So replaying those quests with a different Inquisitor doesn't provide much variation.
This doesn't apply to every quest, I know, judgements and companion quests did have more variety in this respect. But many of the quests didn't bother hiding our lack of choices.
Exactly. As far as the side-content goes (not main quests, judgements, or companion quests), everyone is basically playing the same game, which is sad in an RPG. Especially if it comprises the vast majority of the content in the game.
Though of course, there is variation in not accepting the quest at all.
A lot of the time though, you can't even do that in DA:I.
Wait what??
I meant people who still think Flemythal could also be Dumat and/or Andraste reincarnated. Those fan theories mostly went out the window once we learned Flemeth's nature, but there are still some clinging to their headcanon that the Old Gods are the Forbidden Ones are the elvehnan are the Maker etc.
Slow is the only way I could imagine it happening without Tevinter succumbing to the Qunari. I can't imagine any way Tevinter could resist the Qunari while a slave revolt is going on. Not to mention, the Qunari would probably be promoting the revolt.
...It pains me to say it, but I think I'd help the magisters keep their slaves and hope for eventual emancipation rather than allow a Qunari driven slave revolt lead Tevinter into the Qun (I hate the Qun that much)
I mean...this is Bioware. If slavery is going to be abolished, it'll be through paragon super special options that occur instantly and everything works out.
I mean...this is Bioware. If slavery is going to be abolished, it'll be through paragon super special options that occur instantly and everything works out.
I'm trying to be optimistic here 
I mean...this is Bioware. If slavery is going to be abolished, it'll be through paragon super special options that occur instantly and everything works out.
Nug confirmed to end slavery in Tevinter?
Or Hawke's 12th cousin, 5 times removed on her right arms side of the family
It's kind of a shame there isn't more on a dwarven setup, as some are saying.
I don't think dwarves are ever going to be that popular, unless you create the right conditions and stage for them. Build it and they will come. Look at the Hobbit, for example.
The thing I will never understand is - the Inquisitor's story was over in the base game and no one wanted them back.
No one wanted them for DA4, no one wanted them to deal with Solas. We had a perfectly fine conclusion and everyone was ready for a new protagonist in DA4. We never had to see them again.
Then, Bioware decided to make Trespasser.
This is what confuses me the most. I really, really, really do not understand. And if they didn't think they opened up Quizzy's story during Trespasser, then I really, really, really don't understand that either.
I should probably just give up on a company if I can't understand their narrative decisions anymore. But it hurts; Bioware style games are my favourite.
*Deep sigh*
It's kind of a shame there isn't more on a dwarven setup, as some are saying.
I don't think dwarves are ever going to be that popular, unless you create the right conditions and stage for them. Build it and they will come. Look at the Hobbit, for example.
I agree, but I think they would have a hard time giving much focus to the dwarves while explicating more about the qunari and the Old Gods (as DA4 seems set to do)
Maybe next game.
I agree, but I think they would have a hard time giving much focus to the dwarves while explicating more about the qunari and the Old Gods (as DA4 seems set to do)
Maybe next game.
Well, with the ancient elves connection to the Titans there may be an avenue to explore more dwarven-related things. Dwarves also have a big presence in Tevinter with the Ambassadoria and the long history between the Imperium and the Dwarven Kingdoms.
Though I expect them to have a bigger presence if we have a game set in the Anderfels, since that place is home of the Grey Wardens, connected to the Darkspawn, and Kal-Sharok is on its border.
This is what confuses me the most. I really, really, really do not understand. And if they didn't think they opened up Quizzy's story during Trespasser, then I really, really, really don't understand that either.
I should probably just give up on a company if I can't understand their narrative decisions anymore. But it hurts; Bioware style games are my favourite.
*Deep sigh*
Rather, those who did want the Inquisitor back wanted them back because they liked them. I mean, that is a reason. Trespasser made more people want them back, and confused people on the mid ground by making it feel it could go either way. Heck, even many of those who don't want the Inquisitor back as PC want them back to deal with Solas. It boggles the mind
I mean...this is Bioware. If slavery is going to be abolished, it'll be through paragon super special options that occur instantly and everything works out.
I think this is less a Bioware thing and more of a video game thing. Everything's got to be created from scratch, by committee, on a time and financial budget... quite unlike writing a novel. So yeah, haven't played one video game yet where things aren't simplified and packaged kinda neatly. Until some lightning-fast, cheap, reliable, flexible game-tooling becomes available to the industry, I don't see things changing.
The good news is, when I was a kid I was playing Space Invaders. I killed the aliens before they reached the ground and everything instantly worked out. Now I'm playing Inquisition and Witcher 3. There is progress being made.
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