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BansheeOwnage

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Okay abaris and AlanC9, find me a a woman who looks better with short hair than long hair.  A few photographs if you will.

 

Go ahead, I can wait. :whistle:

Okay Bayonet Hipshot, find me a man I find attractive. A few photographs if you will.

 

Go ahead, I can - Oh, wait.

 

 

 

 

 

See the problem yet?


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Okay abaris and AlanC9, find me a a woman who looks better with short hair than long hair.  A few photographs if you will.

 

Go ahead, I can wait. :whistle:

 

I can wait all day because even if you show me a cute woman with a really nice pixie bob hair, she will look better with longer hair.

 

There is even an evolutionary and biological reason for why majority of men prefer long haired women over short haired women :- http://www.sciencedi...022103100914501

 

So yes, by all means, keep deluding yourselves with claims of preferences.

 

;)

 

What exactly is your idea of beauty, aside from being an elf? Can't believe you would base your preferences over a scientific study.



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Beauty is far more then hair or skin.. Some of the plug ugliest women I met was beautiful women to look upon but,was ugly in personality.

 

I'll settle for a so/so looking woman with good personality over a Maybelline covered diamond with a ugly personality..



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Beauty and attraction is in the eye of the beholder. I realize that supermodels represent an ideal, but they have the same kind of attraction on me as some classic statue. Easy on the eyes, but nothing else. I think everyone would be hard pressed to even name the things attracting them to other persons. Many aren't even visibile. It's what's called charisma.



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Beauty and attraction is in the eye of the beholder. I realize that supermodels represent an ideal, but they have the same kind of attraction on me as some classic statue. Easy on the eyes, but nothing else. I think everyone would be hard pressed to even name the things attracting them to other persons. Many aren't even visibile. It's what's called charisma.

Not entirely. We are genetically predisposed to be attracted to reproductive fitness, which in turn correlates to general health and youth. Physical markers of that include clear skin and lush hair. Cultural and individual factors will be superimposed, but with everything else being equal, you'll always be more attracted to a healthy and younger human rather than a sickly and older one.

 

The typical supermodel ideal is, btw, an amalgam of biological and cultural factors. They're all relatively young and healthy (from their appearance at least), but a few hundred years ago, they would've been considered way too skinny to be beautiful. In the present, food is abundant in the memetically dominant cultures, and it's far more common to be unhealthy from too much food rather than too little, so our beauty ideals have changed towards bodies with little excess fat. 


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Not entirely. We are genetically predisposed to be attracted to reproductive fitness, which in turn correlates to general health and youth. Physical markers of that include clear skin and lush hair.

 

Of course, as with any other species, reproduction is the goal. But you said it yourself, a few centuries ago, our cultural ideals didn't apply. Still don't in certain parts of the world. So culture plays a rather big role. And individual tastes, of course.



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leldra, I still think beauty is skin deep..I don't care if a woman is a super model she can still be ugly..Personality can kill the most beautiful woman as I found out with my first love interest-very pretty on the outside and a Frankenstein on the inside.

 

The woman I married was average looking slightly overweight and has a good sense of humor (she married me right?) and a  heart of gold. 



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I am with you on the whole "women can have whatever hairstyle and hair length that they want" thing, but from my observation and my experience, women always look better with longer hair as opposed to having a shorter hair.

 

What I mean is that the same woman, say Woman X, will always look better with her hair long than her hair short. To this day, I have never met a woman whose short hair looked better than her long hair. Even the actresses and the supermodels look better with long hair compared to having short hair. Sure, some women can rock the short hair look but I guarantee you that they will look better with long hair. At least that's my take on it.

 

Having said that, I get why women would want to have a short hair. I live in Malaysia and its hot so having short hair is nice and the maintenance is far lower as well.

 

As for characters, I know I joked about playing female characters because of how they look in an older post in this topic but my main characters in all games are human male, if I have the choice (Tomb Raider for example, is an exception). They are easier to identify with since I am a human male myself. I do play female characters but they are not my canon.

 

Would you call shoulder length short hair, or is your definition of short hair basically a pixie cut?



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@Tidus:

It is a cultural conceit to include personality under the "beauty" tab. Having an unpleasant personality does not make a beautiful person ugly. It might make them less attractive at second glance, but that's a different thing.

 

@Bayonet Hipshot:

I have the same personal taste regarding hair, but I doubt that's more than a cultural factor, if that.


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This hair length debate is more than a little silly. I think long-haired Morrigan and short-haired Sera and bald-headed Safiya are all gorgeous. Beauty is incredibly subjective.
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This hair length debate is more than a little silly. I think long-haired Morrigan and short-haired Sera and bald-headed Safiya are all gorgeous. Beauty is incredibly subjective.

 

Do not forget Vivienne!



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This hair length debate is more than a little silly. I think long-haired Morrigan and short-haired Sera and bald-headed Safiya are all gorgeous. Beauty is incredibly subjective.

Long-haired Morrigan? *utterly confused*

 

@Catilina:

Vivienne looks very good in spite of having no hair, not because of it.



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^ Morrigan has long hair, but it's in a bun. From the size of the bun, I would say that her hair is at least down to the shoulder blade.


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Do not forget Vivienne!


Her too, but I was just going off of love interests. :P

Long-haired Morrigan? *utterly confused*


Like nightscrawl said, her hair looks fairly long, it's just in an updo. Like how Josie and Anora and Harding clearly have long hair.
 

@Catilina:
Vivienne looks very good in spite of having no hair, not because of it.


That's just an opinion, though... some people look great bald because it highlights their facial features more. *shrug* There's no "in spite of" to speak of.
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That's just an opinion, though... some people look great bald because it highlights their facial features more. *shrug* There's no "in spite of" to speak of.

 
That is one of my favorite hair looks for black women, and many of them can really rock it. I think Warden Commander Clarel wears the shaved look well, as does Sigourney Weaver as Ripley in Alien 3; they both totally amazing. I really like short hair on women and squeed with delight when Emma Watson (Hermione from Harry Potter) got her pixie cut.

 

I quite like Cassandra's hair as well, but the hairband is weird. Not the thing itself, but that it appears to be braided hair used as a hairband, but is not attached to her own head. I'm not sure if the devs and artists were trying to show that it was braided with her own hair and that she has a "rattail" braid that is pinned around her head, or if that is a separate piece altogether. I like the look overall, but I don't think the braid was pulled off correctly.



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I think Josie has beautiful hair as does Scout Harding and Sera.

 

Camine and Chasha has page boys for one reason.. While fighting  nobody can grab their hair and pull them off balance. Don't laugh.. I seen it done several years ago in a bar room fight.



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The typical supermodel ideal is, btw, an amalgam of biological and cultural factors. They're all relatively young and healthy (from their appearance at least)

Ha, they don't look healthy to me!

 

@Tidus:

It is a cultural conceit to include personality under the "beauty" tab. Having an unpleasant personality does not make a beautiful person ugly. It might make them less attractive at second glance, but that's a different thing.

No, to me it really does, which is the point many people have been trying to make for the last page. Beauty is different to everyone. It's of no consequence if you can average out some polls and say "Oh, this is what is ideally attractive, because reproduction", because every individual is different. Seems odd I have to say that. I mean, how useful is that "ideal" if it can be subverted by talking to any random person?

 

I feel like the people saying things like "Women will never look better with short hair, because 'science'" and "Bald people look good despite being bald" need to get off their high horse. Don't inflate your opinion into something more. I'm not trying to be rude, just make a point. Hopefully it made sense.


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Why do you "guys" play mostly with a female character in dragon age ? Is it because we have beautiful butts where you can look at. Or is it because we women run more gracefully then man because the man look really ridiculous when they run in this game. Or is it something else ?
 
So why "guys" why do you play mostly with a female character ?
 
P.s. Maybe i am totally wrong about this but i just get the feeling and what i am reading here in this forum that i am not entirely wrong about what i am writing here.    

 

...Your PS makes you sound like Donald Trump. :P  

 

And yeah the nice butts certainly do help but I generally find the voice acting to be better for females then men in BW games.  Jennifer Hale, whoever did Fem Hawke's amazing voice of snarkyness, and Alix Wilton Regan was a huge surprise.  Granted Bro Brit Inquisitor was hella awesome to.  Also it goes into more complicated reasons then that to.  

  • Usually my Female characters are the second play through of the game, with the exception of DA 2.  
  • It being the second playthrough I have a better grasp on gameplay so I can focus on story and a better grasp on story so I can craft a good one and role play...exception DA 2.  
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The lack of long hair in Bioware games is more because of lazy game development than purposeful character design. Remember the in-game artwork in DA:O (or was it the beginning of Awakening?) that showed Cailan's and Loghain's hair extending pretty far down their chest?
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The lack of long hair in Bioware games is more because of lazy game development than purposeful character design. Remember the in-game artwork in DA:O (or was it the beginning of Awakening?) that showed Cailan's and Loghain's hair extending pretty far down their chest?

I would be very careful with classifying any development as "lazy" unless I had really good insight in it.
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I would be very careful with classifying any development as "lazy" unless I had really good insight in it.


I see what you mean but also DAI has like 4 different types of bald. Bioware could have given us some more variety there.

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I think it is something else   ;)


Gender-shaming! Disgusting.

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I would be very careful with classifying any development as "lazy" unless I had really good insight in it.

 

I guess it's more or less engine related. There aren't many games featuring long hair, and if they do, it usually looks like plastic or in other ways abyssmal. Same with blond hair. I've yet to find any game where blond doesn't look like a doormat slapped over the characters head. Long hair also seems to be a guarantee for severe clipping issues at the back. The one part, you stare at through the whole game.


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I see what you mean but also DAI has like 4 different types of bald. Bioware could have given us some more variety there.

It's actually much worse than that. I have a folder of all the hairstyles in Inquisition so I can have numbers for these things. There are actually thirteen styles that are bald or almost bald... and there are only twenty-eight styles. So almost half are bald or almost bald, and the rest have their share of problems like receding hairlines, sideburns, and generally not looking very good, although that one is subjective.

 

Ugh, whenever I think about this, I get depressed. You can do better, Bioware. Even your older games were much better. Geez.



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It's actually much worse than that. I have a folder of all the hairstyles in Inquisition so I can have numbers for these things. There are actually thirteen styles that are bald or almost bald... and there are only twenty-eight styles. So almost half are bald or almost bald, and the rest have their share of problems like receding hairlines, sideburns, and generally not looking very good, although that one is subjective.

Ugh, whenever I think about this, I get depressed. You can do better, Bioware. Even your older games were much better. Geez.

I mean okay Bioware probs wanted to give us the illusion that we have ~so many options~ but this is ridiculous. Like really? Thirteen?!

Honestly I'm just glad we got race selection. If we were stuck as Humans AND we had those terrible hairstyles I would have lost it.
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