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The Qunari starting a war with the Free Marches is happening now. At the end of Trespasser. The explanation was for then. That wasn't going to be the impetus or couldn't be taken as a sign of all-out-invasion-war with the rest of Thedas. 

 

The invasion hasn't truly started after Trespasser , they go full war on Tevinter but they've been fighting Tevinter for hundred of years anyway.So same old , same old.

We still don't know why they rushed a sudden invasion on the south , we know they are preparing for a full blown invasion eventully...but gosh their timing is bad.they could have acted during the Breach when everybody was running around like headless chicken and bothered by Venatori.Hell they might have converted people more easily during that time too.

But nope they waited for order to be restored , when the south still had an united army ready to go Exalted March on their as***.

 

That's why I'm curious if Par Vollen knew about the agents of Fen Harel stuff and thought the Inquisition was going to cause another magical catastrophe.

That would make more sense to me ,honestly.

If they haven't managed to invade much of Tevinter inland , there's no reason to think they now somehow would be able to conquer all of Thedas.

First time they had the elements of surprise + gaatlok , they invaded lots of land but weren't able to hold it whatsoever except in Rivain where people converted .They would be better off sending agents to convert the masses in times when there's civil war like what happened in Orlais , and once the local populace is starting to think the Qun is appealing , then invade.


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The invasion hasn't truly started after Trespasser , they go full war on Tevinter but they've been fighting Tevinter for hundred of years anyway.So same old , same old.

We still don't know why they rushed a sudden invasion on the south , we know they are preparing for a full blown invasion eventully...but gosh their timing is bad.they could have acted during the Breach when everybody was running around like headless chicken and bothered by Venatori.Hell they might have converted people more easily during that time too.

But nope they waited for order to be restored , when the south still had an united army ready to go Exalted March on their as***.

 

That's why I'm curious if Par Vollen knew about the agents of Fen Harel stuff and thought the Inquisition was going to cause another magical catastrophe.

That would make more sense to me ,honestly.

If they haven't managed to invade much of Tevinter inland , there's no reason to think they now somehow would be able to conquer all of Thedas.

First time they had the elements of surprise + gaatlok , they invaded lots of land but weren't able to hold it whatsoever except in Rivain where people converted .They would be better off sending agents to convert the masses in times when there's civil war like what happened in Orlais , and once the local populace is starting to think the Qun is appealing , then invade.

 

Well the invasion would have truly started but the plan was screwed up by Solas/Inquisition. Still, the plot for the next game can now have the Qunari at war with the rest of Thedas, not just Tevinter. That's what Weeke's is saying here and that's what we've been waiting for since Dragon Age 1.

 

This is how I see it.

 

Dragon Age 1 - Foreshadowing of invasion/war of all of Thedas with the Qunari.

 

Dragon Age 2 - Major conflict with Qunari, prompting questions of "will the Qunari use this to start war with the rest of Thedas?"

 

Beginning of Dragon Age 3 - We find out (the details can vary slightly based on if the Qunari leader in Kirkwall is dead or not) that the Qunari are not at war with the rest of Thedas (or the Free Marches) - that's the whole point of that story point. At the beginning of Dragon Age 3, the Qunari are not at war with all of Thedas.

 

Beginning of Dragon Age 3 - We find out, through Iron Bull, that the Qunari are ever more nervous about the magical chaos. We already know through Dragon Age 2 that the Qunari have an extremely conservative way of handling magical people. 

 

Trespasser - The Qunari have had it with the rest of Thedas, they don't want to risk more magical Armageddon's. This is where they decide to invade.

 

Dragon Age 4 -  The table is set, the Qunari have tried to invade the rest of Thedas. This lays the groundwork for Qunari battling Thedas all over the place, if the studio so decides. Weekes plainly says the Qunari have started their invasion, their war, with the rest of Thedas. This is the war, the invasion, foreshadowed by Sten. 



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In Dragon Age 1, Sten tells us the Qunari are going to invade. Make war. Make all of Thedas the Qunari empire.


Correct.

In Dragon Age 2, we have a really large conflict with the Qunari. Then Bioware explains this isn't the Qunari invasion -  this isn't the Qunari attacking the rest of Thedas to make Thedas all Qunari Empire as foreshadowed in Dragon Age 1.


Correct. The Arishok even states as much in the game.

In Dragon Age 3, we finally, at the end, have the Qunari starting their war on Thedas. This IS the Qunari invasion. The war foreshadowed by Sten in Dragon Age 1.


Incorrect. That's your baseless assumption. Dragon's Breath was hilariously pathetic. The insane pipe dream of a rogue agent gone mad.

Oh, and no war was started. So, there goes that idea. If you want to use Sten's words, use them all. It is Qunari honor that will bring their warships back to Ferelden's shores. So where were all the warships in Trespasser? Something like the initial strike failing shouldn't be enough to defeat Qunari honor.

Besides, Viddasala was obviously lying about all of it. Everything she said about it was a lie. When the Breach appeared in the sky the Qun decided its action, and this action was to attack the South? No. Hissrad confirms that he was sent because the Triumvirate wanted to know if they would have to launch an invasion or not. So their action was not decided when the Breach appeared. And if the Inquisitor does good work and promotes the alliance, the Triumvirate will actually entrust more missions to the Inquisition.

And Viddasala's claim they would now take the way of blades? Yeah, how did that one turn out?

She didn't even know that the Inquisition wasn't working with Solas anymore. She was obviously out of the loop.

That's all any of us really have been wondering since Dragon Age 1. Are the Qunari attacking yet? Like I said, this isn't all that subtle or nuanced.


I would prefer the Qunari attack and we have our war, but my wanting it doesn't make it so. Just as you wanting Weekes to say "invade" won't make it happen.

The Arishok being removed CAN be taken as proof that the action was unsanctioned. You said there wasn't any proof at all. There is some proof.


Oh Almost. You just went and contradicted yourself by arguing with one of your allies. In Exile is actually correct. That the Arishok was removed is not necessarily evidence that he was unauthorized in his action (proof of that is in his own statements). They could have removed him for some other reason. But you just went against your own position. If removing someone is evidence of them not being sanctioned, then the same should apply to Viddasala who was also disavowed and sought after for removal. Yet you want to say it's proof for one but not the other.

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Oh Almost. You just went and contradicted yourself by arguing with one of your allies. In Exile is actually correct. That the Arishok was removed is not necessarily evidence that he was unauthorized in his action (proof of that is in his own statements). They could have removed him for some other reason. But you just went against your own position. If removing someone is evidence of them not being sanctioned, then the same should apply to Viddasala who was also disavowed and sought after for removal. Yet you want to say it's proof for one but not the other.

 

The removal of the Arishok could be proof of other things, but it can also be proof that he was unsanctioned. I lean towards "it's proof he was unsanctioned" because  it was also the explanation at the beginning of Dragon Age 3 for why the Qunari were not at war (as foreshadowed) yet with the rest of Thedas.

 

The Viddasala could have been a rogue agent. The story left things murky. The factor that changes everything is Weekes telling us the Viddasala isn't a rogue agent. That's the evidence needed to clear the muddy waters left by the story. Weeke's takes us behind the story and tells us what's really going on. 



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The invasion hasn't truly started after Trespasser , they go full war on Tevinter but they've been fighting Tevinter for hundred of years anyway.So same old , same old.
We still don't know why they rushed a sudden invasion on the south , we know they are preparing for a full blown invasion eventully...but gosh their timing is bad.they could have acted during the Breach when everybody was running around like headless chicken and bothered by Venatori.Hell they might have converted people more easily during that time too.
But nope they waited for order to be restored , when the south still had an united army ready to go Exalted March on their as***.


Yep. They could have let Denerim burn from the Venatori fire ship. They could have given misinformation to damage the South's efforts to eradicate the Venatori. But no. They actually helped the Inquisition gain strength and prevent the southern nations from being weakened.

That's why I'm curious if Par Vollen knew about the agents of Fen Harel stuff and thought the Inquisition was going to cause another magical catastrophe.


No. Hissrad would be able to confirm that Solas left the Inquisition two years prior and they have not been able to find him since.

That would make more sense to me ,honestly.


The Triumvirate was pleased with the Inquisition, and even trusted them with more missions they believed were better left to them rather than their own Qunari agents. The note Iron Bull and the Last Few Years confirms this.

Maybe Solas made Viddasala think that the Inquisition was acting against the Qunari people first, and so she saw her own actions as a counter-attack, but I think she still did all this without authorization. She didn't have contact with Hissrad, who could have explained the situation to her.

If they haven't managed to invade much of Tevinter inland , there's no reason to think they now somehow would be able to conquer all of Thedas.


Correct. There is no logic in spreading your forces thin when you can't even take Tevinter. And a failed operation in the South would only result in a new Exalted March.

First time they had the elements of surprise + gaatlok , they invaded lots of land but weren't able to hold it whatsoever except in Rivain where people converted .They would be better off sending agents to convert the masses in times when there's civil war like what happened in Orlais , and once the local populace is starting to think the Qun is appealing , then invade.


I think this was their plan. The current Arishok, who was Sten in DA:O, is said to have proposed a similar strategy to his Arishok when fighting Tevinter. But this plan was likely too slow for Viddasala. So she decided to provoke a war that would force the Triumvirate to respond.

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Well the invasion would have truly started but the plan was screwed up by Solas/Inquisition. Still, the plot for the next game can now have the Qunari at war with the rest of Thedas, not just Tevinter. That's what Weeke's is saying here and that's what we've been waiting for since Dragon Age 1.

 

This is how I see it.

 

Dragon Age 1 - Foreshadowing of invasion/war of all of Thedas with the Qunari.

 

Dragon Age 2 - Major conflict with Qunari, prompting questions of "will the Qunari use this to start war with the rest of Thedas?"

 

Beginning of Dragon Age 3 - We find out (the details can vary slightly based on if the Qunari leader in Kirkwall is dead or not) that the Qunari are not at war with the rest of Thedas (or the Free Marches) - that's the whole point of that story point. At the beginning of Dragon Age 3, the Qunari are not at war with all of Thedas.

 

Beginning of Dragon Age 3 - We find out, through Iron Bull, that the Qunari are ever more nervous about the magical chaos. We already know through Dragon Age 2 that the Qunari have an extremely conservative way of handling magical people. 

 

Trespasser - The Qunari have had it with the rest of Thedas, they don't want to risk more magical Armageddon's. This is where they decide to invade.

 

Dragon Age 4 -  The table is set, the Qunari have tried to invade the rest of Thedas. This lays the groundwork for Qunari battling Thedas all over the place, if the studio so decides. Weekes plainly says the Qunari have started their invasion, their war, with the rest of Thedas. This is the war, the invasion, foreshadowed by Sten. 

 

I don't think Trespasser set the groundwork for Qunari invading all of Thedas...It would be a surprise at this point.

You realize they can't even manage to take Seheron , an island with a local tribe of barbarians and some Tevinter folks, and they have been at it for almost 300 years now?

 

What I think Trespasser did , it just remind us the Qunari existed because they were mostly absent in DAI , show they have issues with magic , remind us that yes "eventually , one day , " their plan is to invade all of Thedas.

In Trespasser they failed not an invasion but the preliminary plan to prepare the South for an invasion , so they ran back to Par Vollen with their tails between their legs , said the usual "We will never speak of this again until of course eventually one day we will invade."

And went back to their now old routine of fighting with Tevinter where we should be going.

 

Now why I'm saying DAI isn't the start of a full blown invasion?Words are cheap , Qunari can say they will invade all they want , if they can't seriously breach Tevinter , can't hold Kirkwall for more than a night , can't take Seheron , they are not the threat they pretend to be.


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The removal of the Arishok could be proof of other things, but it can also be proof that he was unsanctioned. I lean towards "it's proof he was unsanctioned" because  it was also the explanation at the beginning of Dragon Age 3 for why the Qunari were not at war (as foreshadowed) yet with the rest of Thedas.
 
The Viddasala could have been a rogue agent. The story left things murky. The factor that changes everything is Weekes telling us the Viddasala isn't a rogue agent. That's the evidence needed to clear the muddy waters left by the story. Weeke's takes us behind the story and tells us what's really going on.


Ah but he didn't say she wasn't a rogue agent. There you go putting words in his mouth again.

And you already admitted that the answer was in reply to a question about Iron Bull. So no, there was no behind the scenes info here.

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I don't think Trespasser set the groundwork for Qunari invading all of Thedas...It would be a surprise at this point.
You realize they can't even manage to take Seheron , an island with a local tribe of barbarians and some Tevinter folks, and they have been at it for almost 300 years now?


I agree with that, but I see no evidence that the Triumvirate was knowledgeable of Dragon's Breath prior to Josephine contacting them.

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Ah but he didn't say she wasn't a rogue agent. There you go putting words in his mouth again.

And you already admitted that the answer was in reply to a question about Iron Bull. So no, there was no behind the scenes info here.

 

You can say that until you're blue in the face, I don't buy your argument. It's complete nonsense. 



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I don't think Trespasser set the groundwork for Qunari invading all of Thedas...It would be a surprise at this point.

You realize they can't even manage to take Seheron , an island with a local tribe of barbarians and some Tevinter folks, and they have been at it for almost 300 years now?

 

What I think Trespasser did , it just remind us the Qunari existed because they were mostly absent in DAI , show they have issues with magic , remind us that yes "eventually , one day , " their plan is to invade all of Thedas.

In Trespasser they failed not an invasion but the preliminary plan to prepare the South for an invasion , so they ran back to Par Vollen with their tails between their legs , said the usual "We will never speak of this again until of course eventually one day we will invade."

And went back to their now old routine of fighting with Tevinter where we should be going.

 

Now why I'm saying DAI isn't the start of a full blown invasion?Words are cheap , Qunari can say they will invade all they want , if they can't seriously breach Tevinter , can't hold Kirkwall for more than a night , can't take Seheron , they are not the threat they pretend to be.

 

Weeke's said that the Qunari are going to war and the end of Trespasser has them trying to invade. Plot-wise and from the perspective of the writers, the groundwork is laid for Qunari war with the rest of Thedas in Dragon Age 4. Whether or not all the story details makes sense to you or not isn't really the point. Don't forget, at the end of Mass Effect 2, Cerberus was some rogue faction and in Mass Effect 3 they were practically a nation unto themselves, able to field armies and fleets. The Qunari waging war is far more plausible, since they've kept the Qunari murky... at best. 



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Weeke's said that the Qunari are going to war and the end of Trespasser has them trying to invade. Plot-wise and from the perspective of the writers, the groundwork is laid for Qunari war with the rest of Thedas in Dragon Age 4. Whether or not all the story details makes sense to you or not isn't really the point. Don't forget, at the end of Mass Effect 2, Cerberus was some rogue faction and in Mass Effect 3 they were practically a nation unto themselves, able to field armies and fleets. The Qunari waging war is far more plausible, since they've kept the Qunari murky... at best. 

 

Yes , they're going to war with Tevinter , that's what the epilogue says.Although they were already at war with Tevinter but it seems now they might be more "serious " about the whole business.

And the rest of Thedas is watching waiting to see what will happen next.

If the Qunari keep on breaking their teeth on Tevinter , well no reason to hyperventilate.

If the wind changes , then you can start worrying.

 

What I think we will see in DA4 is a more agressive war between Tevinter and the Qun.And that's probably it.



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Yes , they're going to war with Tevinter , that's what the epilogue says.Although they were already at war with Tevinter but it seems now they might be more "serious " about the whole business.

And the rest of Thedas is watching waiting to see what will happen next.

If the Qunari keep on breaking their teeth on Tevinter , well no reason to hyperventilate.

If the wind changes , then you can start worrying.

 

What I think we will see in DA4 is a more agressive war between Tevinter and the Qun.And that's probably it.

 

I would agree with you except Weeke's says "the Qunari are going to start a war". In the context of them trying to invade/weaken/attack the rest of Thedas... it seems plain to me the war is going to be expanded beyond Tevinter. They were already at war with Tevinter. 



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The invasion hasn't truly started after Trespasser , they go full war on Tevinter but they've been fighting Tevinter for hundred of years anyway.So same old , same old.
We still don't know why they rushed a sudden invasion on the south , we know they are preparing for a full blown invasion eventully...but gosh their timing is bad.they could have acted during the Breach when everybody was running around like headless chicken and bothered by Venatori.Hell they might have converted people more easily during that time too.
But nope they waited for order to be restored , when the south still had an united army ready to go Exalted March on their as***.
 
That's why I'm curious if Par Vollen knew about the agents of Fen Harel stuff and thought the Inquisition was going to cause another magical catastrophe.
That would make more sense to me ,honestly.
If they haven't managed to invade much of Tevinter inland , there's no reason to think they now somehow would be able to conquer all of Thedas.
First time they had the elements of surprise + gaatlok , they invaded lots of land but weren't able to hold it whatsoever except in Rivain where people converted .They would be better off sending agents to convert the masses in times when there's civil war like what happened in Orlais , and once the local populace is starting to think the Qun is appealing , then invade.


My interpretation is that the Qunari were waiting for the south to weaken itself through infighting and then sweep what's left to the side. And possibly they were hoping the more advanced southern mages would fix the Breach before they captured that territory. Their magical knowledge is poor compared to the Circles, let alone Tevinter, so they probably weren't confident in their ability to deal with rifts.

Or perhaps part of Viddisala's mission was to find magic to close the Breach, and it just changed slightly by the end of the base game.

I think they could have sent agents in to convert people during the Orlesian civil war IF there hadn't also been the Breach. The Breach changed the sociopolitical landscape of southern Thedas and became the most important issue. I think know people were convert to the heretical Inquisitor's sect of Andrasteanism than the Qun, since the Inquisitor was shown to be effective against rifts.
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You can say that until you're blue in the face, I don't buy your argument. It's complete nonsense.


You're free to not buy it. But you have no proof that the Qunari were authorized by the Triumvirate to carry out Dragon's Breath.

Weeke's said that the Qunari are going to war and the end of Trespasser has them trying to invade.


Except he didn't. He said, "lets have the Qunari start a war". Of course, they didn't actually start a war. They tried to. But where is the Qunari army at the end of Trespasser? Not engaged in a war with the South, that's for sure.

Plot-wise and from the perspective of the writers, the groundwork is laid for Qunari war with the rest of Thedas in Dragon Age 4. Whether or not all the story details makes sense to you or not isn't really the point.


Correct. But Dragon's Breath had nothing to do with this groundwork. Well, it showed their were spies in the South, but that's nothing new. If anything, Viddasala's unauthorized hijinks only set the Triumvirate back on their plan to one day invade the South. Now the South knows that there are Qunari spies everywhere and will do their best to find them and likely kill them.

I would agree with you except Weeke's says "the Qunari are going to start a war". In the context of them trying to invade/weaken/attack the rest of Thedas... it seems plain to me the war is going to be expanded beyond Tevinter. They were already at war with Tevinter.


Except he doesn't say that, and the DLC ends with no war on the horizon.

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I don't think Trespasser set the groundwork for Qunari invading all of Thedas...It would be a surprise at this point.
You realize they can't even manage to take Seheron , an island with a local tribe of barbarians and some Tevinter folks, and they have been at it for almost 300 years now?
 
What I think Trespasser did , it just remind us the Qunari existed because they were mostly absent in DAI , show they have issues with magic , remind us that yes "eventually , one day , " their plan is to invade all of Thedas.
In Trespasser they failed not an invasion but the preliminary plan to prepare the South for an invasion , so they ran back to Par Vollen with their tails between their legs , said the usual "We will never speak of this again until of course eventually one day we will invade."
And went back to their now old routine of fighting with Tevinter where we should be going.
 
Now why I'm saying DAI isn't the start of a full blown invasion?Words are cheap , Qunari can say they will invade all they want , if they can't seriously breach Tevinter , can't hold Kirkwall for more than a night , can't take Seheron , they are not the threat they pretend to be.


We don't know the true force behind the Qunari. We don't know how far past Par Vollen their territory stretches, or the number of troops they have. MotA and Trespasser show that we don't know how many sleeper agents are already here and gathering Intel. Sten is obviously biased, but he does say that the Qunari decided to stop their original invasion, not that they were defeated. I think they ought they would win but the casualties would be too high so they decided to try other methods first.

Also, a very small unit of Qunari are able to take over Kirkwall for a day which is impressive, since they had to fight one of the largest templar forces in one location, the Circle, and the city guard to get to the throne. Most of the troops had died in the shipwreck or became Tal Vashoth. Theoretically if Hawke had died fighting the Arishok, Meredith and Orsino would have taken him down, but that's not certain. The fact that it took Hawke and the leaders of the strongest factions in the city to stop the invasion of such a small force means that the Qunari are an enemy to fear.
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Except he doesn't say that, and the DLC ends with no war on the horizon.


Not exactly true. The ending slide of trespasser says the Qunari return to attacking Tevinter, but escalate their attacks on Tevinter, and as Tevinter is recently unstable, they risk spreading the war elsewhere across Thedas. It wouldn't be a direct invasion of the south, but the war in Tevinter might spread.
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Except he doesn't say that, and the DLC ends with no war on the horizon.

 

This is just a taste of how ludicrous your argument is, because Weekes says precisely that:

 

"We said 'Oh, okay, maybe it's a rogue faction of the Qunari and they aren't really the real Qunari and Bull doesn't believe in them,' and every time... We tried to talk ourselves into that for a while, like, 'Oh Bull wouldn't do this, they're not the real Qunari, they're an offshoot,' and it just got so toothless. It got to a point where we were like 'No, really, who wants to play a game where you are fighting the offshoot of the offshoot of the offshoot.' We own this. The Qunari aren't being used anywhere but in our games. So if we're gonna say the Qunari are gonna start a war, let's have the Qunari start a war,"
 



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I don't think Trespasser set the groundwork for Qunari invading all of Thedas...It would be a surprise at this point.

You realize they can't even manage to take Seheron , an island with a local tribe of barbarians and some Tevinter folks, and they have been at it for almost 300 years now?

 

The Qunari invasion has been set to happen since DAO, if you believe Sten - who now happens to be the new Arishok.

 

As for fighting for Seheron for 300 years, there's this conversation between Iron Bull and Dorian:

 

Dorian: What does the Qunari priesthood tell your people about losing the war?
Iron Bull: Ehn. The usual. Water comes, water goes, but eventually the tides wear away the mountain. Blah, blah, blah.
Dorian: They've been fighting Tevinter for centuries and still haven't won.
Iron Bull: Wait, you think we've been at war all this time?
Dorian: It's barely an eye-watering slap fight, I'll grant you, but every now and again it heats up.
Iron Bull: (Chuckles.) That's just force of habit. A real invasion's different.
Dorian: What are they waiting for?
Iron Bull: Don't know. Someone to tell someone to tell someone it's on again, I guess.

 

So basically the Qunnari "annoy" Tevinter rather than they're at war with it. Yet Tevinter thinks that they're at war. You know what that means?

 

It means that it's likely that Tevinter has little to no chance when the *real* invasion comes.

 

Anyway - we don't really know what exactly the Qunari has planned prior to the opening of the Breach, but we can estimate from Sten's conviction that he'll be among those who do the invading that, so it seems they've been preparing to invade during first half of Dragon Age or close to that.

 

Add to that the fact that Bull totally thinks that the Qunari offering an alliance with Inquisition is a precursor to it. You can see how unsure he is about the whole idea and hey - he's not entirely wrong.

 

What the Breach's done is it might have actually delayed their plans (and who knows how Blight has messed up with their plans) - so they've left the South to either succumb or deal with the problem itself, through Inquisitor. Viddassala basically tells us so, when she comments how surprised she is that after the job done Inquisitor is still left alive, instead of being rightfully removed from the picture.


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Ah but he didn't say she wasn't a rogue agent. There you go putting words in his mouth again.

And you already admitted that the answer was in reply to a question about Iron Bull. So no, there was no behind the scenes info here.


So, to be clear, you're saying that a Qun loyal IB will follow a Tal Vashoth over the Inquisitor.

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So, to be clear, you're saying that a Qun loyal IB will follow a Tal Vashoth over the Inquisitor.

 

The incoherence is real. 



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I would agree with you except Weeke's says "the Qunari are going to start a war". In the context of them trying to invade/weaken/attack the rest of Thedas... it seems plain to me the war is going to be expanded beyond Tevinter. They were already at war with Tevinter.


I'd say it's highly likely the war will initially be confined to tevinter. Now if they roll over tevinter a wider invasion will likely follow.

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I wonder if this is the Qunari's official MO? **** up and then disavow? After the next huge invasion which was only barely halted the qunari leadership was asked what their intentions are going forward now that their doom juggernaut was all wrecked "Ooooooh, no, no, no, no, you don't understand at ALL human. That was just a splinter faction! A really small one too! The Qunari are a peaceful race!"

 

Humans: Kay, cool. All is forgiven. <3



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I'd say it's highly likely the war will initially be confined to tevinter. Now if they roll over tevinter a wider invasion will likely follow.

 

Maybe, but the plan in Trespasser was to hit a lot more than just Tevinter. 



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Maybe, but the plan in Trespasser was to hit a lot more than just Tevinter.


But that plan failed, most likely meaning the invasion plan will be more conventional.

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But that plan failed, most likely meaning the invasion plan will be more conventional.

 

Maybe, but the initial plan means they had assets in place to take advantage of the surprise attack. We'll see how things shake out as this Qunari war begins.