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[Khrystyn]

Since the Ark left the Milky Way before the ME-3 ending, then logically those passengers won't know what happened, right?  As far as they are concerned, there is no canon ending that they could know about.

[Commander Rpg]

So this is a new start. A second chance for Mass Effect

You think so?

 

[Khrystyn]

What if they [all 3 - 4 endings ] were all canon?

 

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I'd buy into this POV if each of the endings are nothing more than the canonical story you chose (role-played) for a particular play-through, and not for the franchise as a whole. Or, I'd accept that the Destroy ending is the trilogy's canon ending, but if your EMS on a particular play-through did not meet the minimum threshold to achieve it, then you had to settle for a non-canon Control or Synthesis ending as the best you could do at that point. So long as Andromeda does not return to the Milky Way, then all three ME-3 endings remain as a limited canonical outcome to a particular play-through, and the point is moot. At least this is my interpretation from collating what the various devs have said about Andromeda so far.

 

Andromeda should be the story of what happens as a parallel timeline for a bunch of cool and interesting refugee-explorers, much as if you traveled to a foreign country and lost connection to your family's and friend's lives. They simply have no way of knowing what ending you choose after they entered intergalactic space.

 

I just hope Andromeda works out well and leaves ME-3 far behind in the trailing dust of the new mako, thruster packs, aliens, situations, etc.

[slimgrin]

... um... just another fine example of all the rational thinking that goes on here.

I'm exaggerating for us all buddy. 

[Iakus]

I like it.

 

Which could probably be taken as evidence that it's not popular, as my opinions tend not to be commonly held.

 

But I also think the endings worked better before the Extended Cut.

I'd like to believe in it.  

[Cribbian]

For me nothing in ME3 happened. After ME2:Arrival the reapers runs out of juice trying to enter the milky way and are now drifting around in dark space for all eternity 

[Eryri]

I'd like to believe in it.

I've always liked it. It's certainly a better fix for those dreadful endings than writing off an entire Galaxy. Short of retconning the entirety of the Reaper invasion plot of ME3, of course, which I've increasingly come to see as flawed from the start. And much as I love the individual stories of ME2, you could probably ditch quite a bit of that too (Lazarus, the Reapinator).

And as for op's idea of defeat being made canon, at least that involves the minimum space magic. It also raises the stakes if we're protecting the last few thousand members of each MW species in existence.

[Xerxes52]

I think we'll be leaving sometime before the ending of ME3, possibly shortly after Earth gets invaded. In that case, any ending can be canon.

[JoltDealer]

I want to criticize this thread so bad, but I just can't.  It's been four years since Mass Effect 3 came out and people are still complaining.  This is honestly depressing to see people this determined to not move on.  I just want to come on the BSN, talk about Andromeda, and discuss my love of the series with other fans.

[Mdizzletr0n]

I'm still holding the hope that the ship's takeoff is sometime during ME2.

Person A "Oh shizzle, humans are being abducted and Shepherd is dead! We're so screwed!"

Person B with sarcasm "Guess we should just leave the galaxy then."

Person A: "Leave the galaxy? Hmmmmm you know..."

Queue Mass Effect: Andromeda title screen

[Iakus]

I want to criticize this thread so bad, but I just can't.  It's been four years since Mass Effect 3 came out and people are still complaining.  This is honestly depressing to see people this determined to not move on.  I just want to come on the BSN, talk about Andromeda, and discuss my love of the series with other fans.

Yeah, well, Bioware wanted an ending that would be talked about.  Maybe next time they should specify why it's talked about to the genie...

[UpUpAway]

I'm exaggerating for us all buddy. 

 

Please, don't exaggerate on my account.  Don't think it would be even worth blinking if they just wrote a good story... no matter how they opt to tie it in or not tie it in to ME3.  I know my view is not popular here because people here seem to want to "force" Bioware into writing ME:A a certain way.  I'd rather give Bioware the creative freedom to express themselves and see where that leads the game.  I'm confident that, regardless, it'll be a good enough game that I'll enjoy it... while the rest of you are burning your PCs and such.

[Bizantura]

Yeah, well, Bioware wanted an ending that would be talked about.  Maybe next time they should specify why it's talked about to the genie...

Maybe movie, TV and game makers fiddle with the emotional side too much and they see it as a given to do with how they see fit too much.

Calling this constant manipulation "art" is a step to far in my opinion.  If anything it has become an "art" in the negative.

 

So yes, they wanted an artsy ending never to be forgotten, well they got there wish.

 

Also I think a lot of people have moved on just not forgotten.  I certainly have.

[UpUpAway]

Maybe movie, TV and game makers fiddle with the emotional side too much and they see it as a given to do with how they see fit too much.

 

Writers have fiddled with the emotional side for centuries... long before movie, TV and video game makers existed.  Most readers and watchers of TV and movies accept that the author of the work just presents them with the ending.  They either then like that ending or not... but then they move on to the next "work" with fresh eyes.  This group, however, just seems obsessed with dragging everything Bioware does back to the ME3 endings.  It won't matter to them what Bioware actually does to connect or disconnect ME:A from ME3... they'll STILL be unhappy about it... and we probably won't be able to have any discussion about ME:A even after it gets released that won't get similarly bogged down in ME3's endings or in just a plain grudge campaign against Bioware and EA.  It's a crying shame really.

[Zehealingman]

That would ****** more people off than the red/blue/green/refuse/ind.theory ending.

I'd love to see the drama though.

[Sartoz]

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I, like others, have left for Andromeda with my Mass Effect 1-3 harem .  I mean, who can forget Traynor's toothbrush?

 

source: https://youtu.be/4dpO7ru4BEM

 

 

My harem video source: https://youtu.be/3j8R9Iw66-8

[rocklikeafool]

[Pee Jae]

That's weird. FemShep destroyed the Reapers, had an adventure with some weird clone, partied down with her friends in Anderson's apartment, took the Normandy out for one last joyride, then settled down with Tali on Rannoch.

 

Don't know what happened in your ending but that's what happened in mine. 

[Linkenski]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 aren't canon. Shepard's remains couldn't be salvaged because when a person in a space-suit enters the atmosphere without being in a vessel that can sustain the heat they're obliterated atom by atom into nothing. Don't forget, his suit was leaking. There's no way Cerberus could've salvaged any remains.

[Cyonan]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 aren't canon. Shepard's remains couldn't be salvaged because when a person in a space-suit enters the atmosphere without being in a vessel that can sustain the heat they're obliterated atom by atom into nothing. Don't forget, his suit was leaking. There's no way Cerberus could've salvaged any remains.

 

but Shep was wearing plot armour.

 

It's stronger armour than anything else known to mankind and can actually survive a fall from orbit.

[Khrystyn]

My harem video source: https://youtu.be/3j8R9Iw66-8

 

Sartoz, thanks for this link; I hadn't seen it before. The ladies rock and shame the males to no end. They are all my heroines, but I'm getting off topic. 'Nuff said.

[Linkenski]

but Shep was wearing plot armour.

 

It's stronger armour than anything else known to mankind and can actually survive a fall from orbit.

And the leakages aren't actually leakages ^^

[AlanC9]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 aren't canon. Shepard's remains couldn't be salvaged because when a person in a space-suit enters the atmosphere without being in a vessel that can sustain the heat they're obliterated atom by atom into nothing. Don't forget, his suit was leaking. There's no way Cerberus could've salvaged any remains.

Felix Baumgartner wasn't incinerated, last time I checked

[Master Warder Z_]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 aren't canon. Shepard's remains couldn't be salvaged because when a person in a space-suit enters the atmosphere without being in a vessel that can sustain the heat they're obliterated atom by atom into nothing. Don't forget, his suit was leaking. There's no way Cerberus could've salvaged any remains.

 

Actually the science on that is pretty well documented if you are into that, note the atmosphere of Alchera is primarily comprised of methane, that is very important if you actually want to understand why you'd basically fall through a single heated layer of methane on the sunny side or basically frozen particles of it, on the night side, basically our atmosphere only works the way it does primarily because of placement our sun and our nitrogen oxygen make up, while methane under our temperatures would result a pretty combustible atmosphere on Alchera's −22 C it results in something entirely different.

 

Differential surface pressure also changes things up a bit.

 

Basically picture Shepard as a potato falling from the troposphere in our own world, it would hit like a meteor or but apart from impact speed and extreme cold it would basically be fine.

 

Also this is pure conjecture, its never stated that Shepard actually hit dirt, just because the corpse was drifting across the planet, doesn't mean it couldn't have been slung into a slow descent orbit where the Shadow Broker goons picked it up. That said in Redemption it is stressed that Shepard's corpse is pretty mangled.