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[Beerfish]

Put the blame where it belongs, on this guy.

 

[Iakus]

Felix Baumgartner wasn't incinerated, last time I checked

 

http://scienceblogs....up-on-re-entry/

 

Shepard had concerns Baumgartner didn't.

 

In addition to the leaky suit. 

[Iakus]

 

Also this is pure conjecture, its never stated that Shepard actually hit dirt, just because the corpse was drifting across the planet, doesn't mean it couldn't have been slung into a slow descent orbit where the Shadow Broker goons picked it up. That said in Redemption it is stressed that Shepard's corpse is pretty mangled.

Not to mention Shepard's helmet is found on the surface.

[Master Warder Z_]

Not to mention Shepard's helmet is found on the surface.

 

That never made any sense to me.

 

I just put it up as a trophy item, and a noncanon one at that as it isn't present in ME3.

[Killdren88]

Believe me, I wish ME3 never happened.

[rossler]

Andromeda has no ties to the original trilogy, so there is no canon endings. Fine by me.

 

Mass Effect was designed as a trilogy. So whatever happened in the MW shouldn't affect Andromeda anyway.

[MrFob]

That never made any sense to me.

 

I just put it up as a trophy item, and a noncanon one at that as it isn't present in ME3.

 

Maybe he had two helmets and the one he is putting on in the beginning of ME2 was just his backup helmet.

[Sartoz]

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The Mass Effect ladies dancing away from the Milky Way Galaxy.

 

source:

 

 

May not be NSFW

[AlanC9]

http://scienceblogs....up-on-re-entry/

Shepard had concerns Baumgartner didn't.

In addition to the leaky suit.

Leaky suit aside -- and she is supposed to die in the scene, after all -- what concerns? Nothing ever establishes that Normandy was trying to enter orbit, or how their maneuvering changed things. Final velocity relative to Alchera is random -- which means that it can be whatever Bio needed it to be

[Iakus]

Andromeda has no ties to the original trilogy, so there is no canon endings. Fine by me.

 

Mass Effect was designed as a trilogy. So whatever happened in the MW shouldn't affect Andromeda anyway.

The game is called "Mass Effect: Andromeda".

 

By it's very name, it has ties to the trilogy.

[Iakus]

Leaky suit aside -- and she is supposed to die in the scene, after all -- what concerns? Nothing ever establishes that Normandy was trying to enter orbit, or how their maneuvering changed things. Final velocity relative to Alchera is random -- which means that it can be whatever Bio needed it to be

Are you suggesting that Shepard was at a dead stop relative to Alchera when he/she got spaced?

[Commander Rpg]

The game is called "Mass Effect: Andromeda.

 

By it's very name, it has ties to the trilogy.

It has at least ties with the setting, and since it starts in ME3 final battle's timeline, I can say that every link to ME3 is there, only that you won't see the consequences during your playtime, because the Milky Way won't be any more considered in all the ramifications that could have been.

 

Let's consider Indiana Jones trilogy's plot (I'm forgetting there is a fourth apocryph), for example: what's a constant reminder is that Henry Walton Jones jr. is dreadfully afraid of snakes, this goes through the first film up to the third one. Suppose you make a new film and call it "Indiana Jones: Scavengers of Big Rockets", where you don't have any Henry Walton Jones jr./Indiana Jones, you don't have any reference to the previous films, except that it's an adventure 40'-50' film, and where the famous fear of snakes of a past character hasn't been recorded in the memory of the new protagonist and his crew, nor has been the old character itself.

 

When I say that the current Bioware's work is laughable, I do it because it's true. Maybe some lost soul will come to it and realise that maybe it's not alright to support such abject neglect project.

[Sartoz]

The game is called "Mass Effect: Andromeda.

 

By it's very name, it has ties to the trilogy.

 

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Hm...interesting interpretation..

 

It's a game that is  part of the Mass Effect IP. It's a new game with new characters, unlike Dragon Age: Inquisition which IS a continuation of the Dragon Age series. That is the reason why Bio does not call it Mass Effect 4.

 

Also, from Yanick Roy:

"If you had three games centred around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another,...."

 

Now, if you believe that "...the games could have many points in common...", ties it to WW1, then it's an interpretation thing.  Another view is that Andromeda is new and is just a Mass Effect game.
 

[DaemionMoadrin]

So ME:A will be to ME1-3 what TFA was to Star Wars 4-6?

 

Meh, I guess it will sell well at least.

[Skilodracus]

That still doesn't explain the advancement of technology shown in the trailer. The Mako and armor designs shown look like highly advanced versions of the tech used in the trilogy. 

[rossler]

It has at least ties with the setting, and since it starts in ME3 final battle's timeline, I can say that every link to ME3 is there, only that you won't see the consequences during your playtime, because the Milky Way won't be any more considered in all the ramifications that could have been.

 

You don't when it takes place that unless you've played the game.

 

Here's a better answer.

[Khrystyn]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 aren't canon. Shepard's remains couldn't be salvaged because when a person in a space-suit enters the atmosphere without being in a vessel that can sustain the heat they're obliterated atom by atom into nothing. Don't forget, his suit was leaking. There's no way Cerberus could've salvaged any remains.

 

So what? It's fantasy. 'nuff said. Just sit back and enjoy the ride - if you dare to let down your nit-picky guard.

[Commander Rpg]

You don't when it takes place that unless you've played the game.

 

Here's a better answer.

Trust me I didn't understand what you were trying to say.

[Iakus]

So ME:A will be to ME1-3 what TFA was to Star Wars 4-6?

 

Meh, I guess it will sell well at least.

I do NOT want an aged Garrus telling the protagonist "It's true.  All of it"

[straykat]

Destroy is Canon, silly OP.

 

Shep and Jack are now Space Truckers. He dumped everyone else. Also, canon.

[Iakus]

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Hm...interesting interpretation..

 

It's a game that is  part of the Mass Effect IP. It's a new game with new characters, unlike Dragon Age: Inquisition which IS a continuation of the Dragon Age series. That is the reason why Bio does not call it Mass Effect 4.

 

Also, from Yanick Roy:

"If you had three games centred around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another,...."

 

Now, if you believe that "...the games could have many points in common...", ties it to WW1, then it's an interpretation thing.  Another view is that Andromeda is new and is just a Mass Effect game.
 

Mass Effect also has the Crucible.  How many people really want that canon?

 

Especially if there ends up being a Mass Effect Keep?

[Khrystyn]

Yeah, well, Bioware wanted an ending that would be talked about.

 

My take on the endings relates to what Casey and others said: Role-play options. They already knew any/every ending would be talked about. It's we who didn't much care for the endings. This thread  belongs in the ME-3 forum and should be closed or moved. I'll stick with this, though, if I read some interesting, thoughtful comments.

[CrutchCricket]

For me nothing in ME3 happened. After ME2:Arrival the reapers runs out of juice trying to enter the milky way and are now drifting around in dark space for all eternity 

Well...

 

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but Shep was wearing plot armour.

 

It's stronger armour than anything else known to mankind and can actually survive a fall from orbit.

Then Liara scavenged it and drew from its power so that explains her as well...

 

So ME:A will be to ME1-3 what TFA was to Star Wars 4-6?

 

Meh, I guess it will sell well at least.

Not unless Bioware/EA explicitly nuke everything and then do the exact same **** over again, except now it makes less sense.

[Sartoz]

Mass Effect also has the Crucible.  How many people really want that canon?

 

Especially if there ends up being a Mass Effect Keep?

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My reaction to a Mass Effect Keep is Uhgg !! and it appears that you have a remarkable ability to dream in technicolour.

 

BTW, the Crucible belongs with the ME1-3 trilogy which takes place in the Mass Effect IP. 

 

On a side note, here is an interesting  Tweet

 

So, I expect a surprising number of aliens in ME:A

[Khrystyn]

That still doesn't explain the advancement of technology shown in the trailer. The Mako and armor designs shown look like highly advanced versions of the tech used in the trilogy. 

 

Great points, Skil.

 

Yeah. Q: So how does the N7 headed to Andromeda get a better mako, thrusters, etc.? A: BW has to pull a plausibility rabbit out of it's hat, and it better be impressive. I'm especially interested to see how the mako is so improved that it wasn't or couldn't technically be around earlier (like ME-3?). Reminds me a bit of Blue Thunder. All the advanced helo features (except FLIR) existed in real life; they just hadn't been coalesced into an Aérospatiale SA-341G Gazelle, let alone any military chopper in service at the time. Airwolf was pretty cool too.

 

Aside:

My enjoyment in Sci-Fi fantasy doesn't wallow in nit-picking. It won't be perfect... it can't be. Who'd have thought that Star Trek's communicators in the mid-1960's foretold hundreds of millions of cell phones two decades later? A few, I'm sure. Who'd have thought a space ship could tie into any database on a planet? Tim-Berners Lee, thank goodness. Yes, there are discontinuities and implausible aspects, but I'm not going to get into a tizzy about any of it.