So what? It's fantasy. 'nuff said. Just sit back and enjoy the ride - if you dare.
That's no excuse for poor writing/execution. Putting Shepard into a coma for two years would've achieved the exact same thing as killing him/her and would've been much more believable.
Isn't that what the evidence indicates?Are you suggesting that Shepard was at a dead stop relative to Alchera when he/she got spaced?
Isn't that what the evidence indicates?
When there are a large number of possible scenarios which are consistent with the presented scene, but only one of those scenarios is consistent with the later developments, we should pick the scenario which works rather than one of the ones which do not work.
Joker pulling the parking brake while trying to evade the Collector ship is not a scenario that makes sense.
The bottom line is if the Reapers exist then no future ME game is safe communal objection. Their continued presence would present a nagging hindrance in moving any part of the ME universe forward. There's no galaxy no matter how far away that could provide the illusion of safety from the Reapers. If they still exist it's a problem.
I want to criticize this thread so bad, but I just can't. It's been four years since Mass Effect 3 came out and people are still complaining. This is honestly depressing to see people this determined to not move on. I just want to come on the BSN, talk about Andromeda, and discuss my love of the series with other fans.
That's what happens when the proverbial crap sundae hits the fan in a perfect, veritable storm of exaggerated claims, outright lies, and false promises. Shepard's legacy is tainted. The amount of disappointment is proportional to how disappointing something is.
The bottom line is if the Reapers exist then no future ME game is safe communal objection. Their continued presence would present a nagging hindrance in moving any part of the ME universe forward. There's no galaxy no matter how far away that could provide the illusion of safety from the Reapers. If they still exist it's a problem.
Nah, the bottom line is that people here will complain endlessly regardless of anything Bioware does or doesn't do.
The 4000 page threads about it.Where do people get the idea that IT was ever popular?
Could you be a dear and dig out the Charon Relay while you're there?This. If Bioware even attempts to link Andromeda to ME3 beyond some codex entries, I'll uninstall, burn my PC, my house, strangle all my kittens and set off for a new life on Pluto.
The 4000 page threads about it.
a huge thread about it does not make something popular. IT was never popular beyond a niche group and, overall, is stupid anyway. Anyone that turns on a second brain cell and spends more than a second thinking about what IT is about can see how it bad some were grasping at straws. So many holes in it it's hilarious.
But yah, just because a topic has a huge thread on it does not mean it's liked and/or popular by any means.
I do NOT want an aged Garrus telling the protagonist "It's true. All of it"
Well... "It's true... mostly. Now can I get back to re-recalibrating something?"
a huge thread about it does not make something popular. IT was never popular beyond a niche group and, overall, is stupid anyway. Anyone that turns on a second brain cell and spends more than a second thinking about what IT is about can see how it bad some were grasping at straws. So many holes in it it's hilarious.
But yah, just because a topic has a huge thread on it does not mean it's liked and/or popular by any means.
Well, with solid evidence like that backing the claim, I'm convinced. IT was never popular 
Well... "it's true... mostly. Now can I get back to re recalibrating something?"
I do NOT want an aged Garrus telling the protagonist "It's true. All of it"
It seems to be going that way though. They'll take the best of the trilogy and mash it all up together into a new game, then hide their patchwork story beneath shiny new effects. 
P.S. I really disliked TFA and I went in with almost no expectations. I do not see why people like it so much.
It seems to be going that way though. They'll take the best of the trilogy and mash it all up together into a new game, then hide their patchwork story beneath shiny new effects.
P.S. I really disliked TFA and I went in with almost no expectations. I do not see why people like it so much.
One off topic post and then I Swear I am done with this line of thought (not that the moderators are even here probably, because they're too busy trying to salvage the Titanic)
Ahem
TFA sucked. Progressive liberalism agenda everywhere, mary sue writing EVERYWHERE, A New Hope remake as terrible as Satan.
That is all.
The 4000 page threads about it.
I'm sure I am not the first person to think about this but, wouldn't it be simpler to cannonize one of the 3 endings ?
From a continuity standpoint, if we want to keep having rich stories with challenges(that we, the players can relate to) to our characters, I say the only viable ending we could have is the destruction ending.
If we choose either control or synthesis, the milky way will still have a giant armada of friendly reapers to protect it no matter the threat the writers think of. If they find a loophole to remove the reaper protection, it would undo what these endings have accomplished anyway.
And with the synthesis ending, we are stuck with one hybrid bio/synthetic race. From a scifi standpoint, usually you create alien races to put some diversity, visually and mentally, in your story so it gains dept. With synthesis, you loose all of that. You don't even have the human race to act as "anchor you can see yourself in"...
At least with destruction, we have mosts races battered, but alive. You still have an entire galaxy to rebuild and still explore, and most of all, you can still give a challenge to the characters that isn't too gigantic in proportion because you don't have to take the reapers into account. And with at least a canon ending, it is much easier to link andromeda to the milky way in future games, because, honestly, I don't see the point of exploring another galaxy if I cannot tell the tale to the people that sent me in the first place.
It's like stargate atlantis that never called back earth, it wouldn't make sense...
I'm sure I am not the first person to think about this but, wouldn't it be simpler to cannonize one of the 3 endings ?
From a continuity standpoint, if we want to keep having rich stories with challenges(that we, the players can relate to) to our characters, I say the only viable ending we could have is the destruction ending.
If we choose either control or synthesis, the milky way will still have a giant armada of friendly reapers to protect it no matter the threat the writers think of. If they find a loophole to remove the reaper protection, it would undo what these endings have accomplished anyway.
And with the synthesis ending, we are stuck with one hybrid bio/synthetic race. From a scifi standpoint, usually you create alien races to put some diversity, visually and mentally, in your story so it gains dept. With synthesis, you loose all of that. You don't even have the human race to act as "anchor you can see yourself in"...
At least with destruction, we have mosts races battered, but alive. You still have an entire galaxy to rebuild and still explore, and most of all, you can still give a challenge to the characters that isn't too gigantic in proportion because you don't have to take the reapers into account. And with at least a canon ending, it is much easier to link andromeda to the milky way in future games, because, honestly, I don't see the point of exploring another galaxy if I cannot tell the tale to the people that sent me in the first place.
It's like stargate atlantis that never called back earth, it wouldn't make sense...
OK, then tell me... why would we leave the galaxy if we won the Reaper war? And how are you going to put everything else into canon? It's not just the ending, it's all of the trilogy. Did the Rachni queen die on Noveria? Was the Collector Base destroyed? Krogan Genophage cured? Geth destroyed? Quarians saved?
It all needs to be answered and if you make one singular choice the new canon then you're going to ****** off anyone who made a different choice somewhere.
It would be much easier to leave before or during the Reaper invasion, with no contact to the Milky Way anymore so all those questions can be answered with "We don't know but it doesn't matter."
I'm sure I am not the first person to think about this but, wouldn't it be simpler to cannonize one of the 3 endings ?
From a continuity standpoint, if we want to keep having rich stories with challenges(that we, the players can relate to) to our characters, I say the only viable ending we could have is the destruction ending.
If we choose either control or synthesis, the milky way will still have a giant armada of friendly reapers to protect it no matter the threat the writers think of. If they find a loophole to remove the reaper protection, it would undo what these endings have accomplished anyway.
And with the synthesis ending, we are stuck with one hybrid bio/synthetic race. From a scifi standpoint, usually you create alien races to put some diversity, visually and mentally, in your story so it gains dept. With synthesis, you loose all of that. You don't even have the human race to act as "anchor you can see yourself in"...
At least with destruction, we have mosts races battered, but alive. You still have an entire galaxy to rebuild and still explore, and most of all, you can still give a challenge to the characters that isn't too gigantic in proportion because you don't have to take the reapers into account. And with at least a canon ending, it is much easier to link andromeda to the milky way in future games, because, honestly, I don't see the point of exploring another galaxy if I cannot tell the tale to the people that sent me in the first place.
It's like stargate atlantis that never called back earth, it wouldn't make sense...
OK, then tell me... why would we leave the galaxy if we won the Reaper war? And how are you going to put everything else into canon? It's not just the ending, it's all of the trilogy. Did the Rachni queen die on Noveria? Was the Collector Base destroyed? Krogan Genophage cured? Geth destroyed? Quarians saved?
It all needs to be answered and if you make one singular choice the new canon then you're going to ****** off anyone who made a different choice somewhere.
It would be much easier to leave before or during the Reaper invasion, with no contact to the Milky Way anymore so all those questions can be answered with "We don't know but it doesn't matter."
What's really clear from all the pages and pages of arguing over this here is that it doesn't matter whichever way Bioware goes with this... they are inevitably going to ******* some people off... So, I think they should just flip a coin over it and whatever group loses the flip will just have to be ****** off.
No popular thread was ever 100% positive. Just take the squadmate threads - rampant sh!tposting, particularly in the Tali and Miranda threads, the latter of which was so bad that it closed down the character and romance subforum. The Garrus threads were pretty much the only exception, I never saw any sh!tposting in those. Everybody loves Garrus.Didn't those threads get to 4000 pages because of all the people showing up to post what a stupid idea IT was? They weren't just the handful of IT fans talking to each other.
It managed to divide a fanbase that was already divided between people who hated the ending and people who loved it. Niche ideas don't have this kind of effect on a fanbase.Well, with solid evidence like that backing the claim, I'm convinced. IT was never popular
Terrible analogy, Mass Effect: Andromeda is the equivalent of going between World War I on Earth to the Great Conflict II on Zargon VI. The latter has absolutely no correlation to the first except that WW1-era humans have somehow ended up there despite lacking the technology necessary to have made such a trip.<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>>
Hm...interesting interpretation..
It's a game that is part of the Mass Effect IP. It's a new game with new characters, unlike Dragon Age: Inquisition which IS a continuation of the Dragon Age series. That is the reason why Bio does not call it Mass Effect 4.
Also, from Yanick Roy:
"If you had three games centred around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another,...."
Now, if you believe that "...the games could have many points in common...", ties it to WW1, then it's an interpretation thing. Another view is that Andromeda is new and is just a Mass Effect game.
Terrible analogy, Mass Effect: Andromeda is the equivalent of going between World War I on Earth to the Great Conflict II on Zargon VI. The latter has absolutely no correlation to the first except that WW1-era humans have somehow ended up there despite lacking the technology necessary to have made such a trip.
From All Quiet on the Western Front to the Barsoom series 
It would be much easier to leave before or during the Reaper invasion, with no contact to the Milky Way anymore, so all those questions can be answered with "We don't know but it doesn't matter."
I liked your last comment. A parallel timeline that puts ME-3 'endings' into the irrelevant category is fine by me; it makes the most sense (to me) for avoiding the disaster that Andromeda could become. It doesn't have to be "all explained", especially if each available game ending choice is ONLY the canon ending for a particular play-through.
Just substitute 'Reaper' or 'Bioware' when you hear "Mohawk." It sort of fits to an odd degree. It just doesn't matter.
I'm not sure what "niche" means here. I imagine something like 10% of fans liked IT, and maybe another 10-15% would have tolerated it. Is that more than niche?It managed to divide a fanbase that was already divided between people who hated the ending and people who loved it. Niche ideas don't have this kind of effect on a fanbase.
HAHAHHA this threath is becoming crazy.
hahahah
no meter how much we dont like ME A will be related to some point to ME 1-2-3.
No meter what Bioware make "players" will compare it will Witcher 3(ofcurse)
no meter if the writing is bad or good ppl will complain.
I can go on and on but ppl will complain and QQ
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