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[BansheeOwnage]

Dragon Age for me, definitely. While I like sci-fi and SPAAAAAACE (ohmYGOD SPACEEE! itS SO BIG AND COOL AND COLOURFULL!), I still prefer fantasy more. Partially because all the metal and cleanliness in sci-fi feels cold and lonely, while the grit and grime in medieval fantasy settings really builds warmth and character. Silly reasons, I know :')

That's funny, technology and civilization make me feel at home and relaxed, just life real life. I hate camping, and I would hate to live in Thedas I would love to live in the ME universe, though.

[vertigomez]

Dragon Age for me, definitely. While I like sci-fi and SPAAAAAACE (ohmYGOD SPACEEE! itS SO BIG AND COOL AND COLOURFULL!), I still prefer fantasy more. Partially because all the metal and cleanliness in sci-fi feels cold and lonely, while the grit and grime in medieval fantasy settings really builds warmth and character. Silly reasons, I know :')

It may be silly, but I feel the same way. Not just ME, but most sci fi has this very clean, modern, minimalist aesthetic with an emphasis on cool tones and clean lines. Lots of silver, blue, and white. Fantasy feels a bit warmer - whether it's a cozy tavern or an opulent castle or running around in the sunshine. Fashion is the same way, because when I think of science fiction my mind instantly goes to bodysuits with clean lines which isn't as visually interesting to me.

Only my opinion, of course. There's certainly lots of pretty in space.

[Akrabra]

There really is no contest here. While i do really like the Mass Effect trilogy and i am looking forward to Andromeda, it doesn't measure up to Dragon Age. It is not just a franchise of games that i really like, it means something more to me and i am addicted to it. I love the lore, the characters, the setting, it is all so well presented and interesting. I can find myself reading codex entries for hours upon hours, just because i want to know more and figure out what is really going on. Now back to Inquisition, the breach is not going to close itself. 

[Beerfish]

Like them both a lot, feel that the 3rd game in each series was the worst of each series.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I don't really like Mass Effect a lot. Shepard never felt like "my" character, or even much of her own character at all. I always felt like Mass Effect was 100 hours of the game trying to tell me how awesome and special I am

Because clearly Dragon age isn't filled with the same player pampering ego nonsense right?

OR wasn't the mighty jesus of Andraste  not pampering enough?

[Akiza]

Well Op even if we are on the Bsn it doesn't seem very fair to make the comparison on the dragon age board.

Try on the Mass effect board, there many user never heard of Dragon age.

[KaiserShep]

 

Because clearly Dragon age isn't filled with the same player pampering ego nonsense right?

OR wasn't the mighty jesus of Andraste  not pampering enough?

 

 

Difference is that with the Inquisitor, it's an actual part of the story and you have the option to deny and deny and ultimately be vindicated by learning the truth, not to mention that the religiousness attached to it has a strong basis in the setting. With Shepard, it's just accolades and the collective ineptitude of everyone around them. 

[Abyss108]

 

Because clearly Dragon age isn't filled with the same player pampering ego nonsense right?

OR wasn't the mighty jesus of Andraste  not pampering enough?

 

 

Considering I played a Dalish Elf whose worst nightmare would be being associated with the religion of the humans who enslaved and tried to wipe out her race, no, I don't consider that pampering. I consider that horrifying.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Difference is that with the Inquisitor, it's an actual part of the story and you have the option to deny and deny and ultimately be vindicated by learning the truth. With Shepard, it's just accolades and the collective ineptitude of everyone around them. 

I can say the same for Shepard is part of her/his story to gain the reputation which comes from their accomplishments.

That you can deny or learning the "truth" (your truth because i may as well say that the Maker helped me in gaining the Orb powers and made the Inquisitor an instrument of his will) doesn't make any difference,in the end for everyone you are the prophet sent by Andraste.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Considering I played a Dalish Elf whose worst nightmare would be being associated with the religion of the humans who enslaved and tried to wipe out her race, no, I don't consider that pampering. I consider that horrifying.

When you receive a castle,godly powers and are considered the emissary of a god and being worshipped as a hero then gain the title of Inquisitor right at the first part of the game,if that is your definition of nightmare....i can't imagine what a true nightmare is...

[AlanC9]

That you can deny or learning the "truth" (your truth because i may as well say that the Maker helped me in gaining the Orb powers and made the Inquisitor an instrument of his will) doesn't make any difference,in the end for everyone you are the prophet sent by Andraste.

Who cares what idiots think? So, yeah, my Inquisitors wouldn't be bothered the way Abyss108's was. Silly shems believing silly things.... not their problem.

[cJohnOne]

I'm a sword and shield guy so DragonAge all the way.  That being said:  Dragon Age Origins I think was released later than MassEffect 1 and had a couple more areas to play than Mass Effect 1. 

 

MassEffect 2 was great fun but for what I want in a video game I enjoyed DA2 more. 

 

I couldn't get into MassEffect 3 and I'm not a big fan of DAI.

[Patricia08]

That's funny, technology and civilization make me feel at home and relaxed, just life real life. I hate camping, and I would hate to live in Thedas I would love to live in the ME universe, though.

 

Me to when i see for instance a Star Wars movie i always think to myself it would be so great to live in that kind of Universe and move between Planets in a spaceship.

 

Or something like the Star Trek Universe and then say something like beam me up Scotty. 

 

edit. Space the final frontier to explore strange new worlds to seek out new life and new civilizations To boldly go where no man has gone before. That would be so great to do something like that.    

[Patricia08]

 

Well Op even if we are on the Bsn it doesn't seem very fair to make the comparison on the dragon age board.

Try on the Mass effect board, there many user never heard of Dragon age.

 

 

I cannot imagine that they have never heard of the Dragon Age games. 

[thebigbad1013]

I enjoy both franchises a great deal but if I had to pick one as my favorite it would be Dragon Age.

[Ieldra]

I like Dragon Age a lot, but I love Mass Effect. When playing Mass Effect I felt that Shepard's story was my story, whereas with Dragon Age I always feel like I'm just along for the ride on someone else's. If I want to save the council, screw Cerberus out of the Collector base and cure the genophage I can do that. But if I want to give the Dalish lands in Ferelden, save Kirkwall from Meredith and abolish the Circle forever, then I am completely out of luck.

Funny, that. It's the exact opposite for me.

 

I love Thedas and it's cultures, most of the characters and all of my protagonists. Also, DA's dominant themes are such that interest me, and are more often presented in an interesting way that doesn't suggest a specific ideological stance. And lastly, DA games enable roleplaying much better than the ME games. For me, DAO is still the best game Bioware ever made, and my main Warden Eorlin Amell my favorite protagonist. As for DAI, it went in the right direction after DA2, and my main Inquisitor would've been hard competition for being favorite protagonist if not for Trespasser's ending which nullified all her ambitions in one fell strike without giving me the opportunity to play against it.

 

Mass Effect was enjoyable overall, but something of a bumpy ride. Also, it was extremely hard to roleplay a Shepard I like. The predefined template "badass space marine" doesn't really appeal to me in the first place. Also, I prefer somewhat harder SF, and I'm particularly unforgiving of biological nonsense, of which there's plenty in ME. And lastly, the way ME presented its themes I found thoroughly unappealing, suggesting an annoyingly traditionalist ideological stance. The endings didn't help. ME had the potential to be something great in the hands of a competent writer, but it wasted its potential on insulting my intelligence, a canonically stupid protagonist and contrived drama.

 

As a result, my default attitude towards future DA games is "will buy", while toward's future ME games, it's "will be thoroughly spoiled before I decide".

[Para9on So1dier]

I love both, though Mass Effect more as I started with it first and became more attached to the characters but Dragon Age still has its moments, have played every single story DLC for all the games and my fav by far is Citadel for Mass Effect just because it brought the crew together.

 

As for Dragon Age, probably Mark of The Assassin (it taught me about Felicia Day)

 

I like to pretend that Dragon Age is a far off prequel to Mass Effect and overtime Elves, Dwarves, Qunari, Dragons, magic etc all died out over time while Humans prospered, (I know it's an easter egg) but it helps me accept the fact that there is a Darkspawn Ogre in Kasumis loyalty mission.

[Ieldra]

That's funny, technology and civilization make me feel at home and relaxed, just life real life. I hate camping, and I would hate to live in Thedas I would love to live in the ME universe, though.

In a general sense, I prefer SF to fantasy, but I don't agree with the prevailing attitude of SF screenwriters of "anything goes regardless how nonsensical, if it's only cool or sexy". Exactly because it's closer to RL, the standards of the plausible should be stricter in SF than in fantasy. Good SF extends science and technology into the unknown but keeps the known intact wherever possible. Bad SF doesn't care. According to that standard, ME is really bad SF, and no, writer's ignorance is no excuse. You should know about stuff if it's a major aspect of your story. Also, from a worldbuilding perspective, Thedas is way better-crafted than the MEU.  

[Reznore57]

Not fond of Mass Effect , I had fun with the trilogy but erf , most of the content is like a 90's goofy action movie and then sometimes the game tries to take itself seriously and it doesn't quite work.

Mass Effect 1 story was fine , Mass Effect 2 and 3 was garbage.

Companions are overall "meh." Best writing for companion was hand down Mordin .

What set apart ME from DA is the level of polish , ME2 main plot was awful but it didn't matter because something like the suicide mission had everything else going on for it.Great music , great atmosphere /pacing , good game mechanic with the companions lives being at risk...so you're more worried about people dying than the actual plot.Etc...

Me3 multiplayer was also way better than DAI multiplayer.

 

The ME3 ending killed any interest in the franchise I had to be honest , not that DA doesn't have its own issues when it comes to story but I never felt it was that bad.

[KaiserShep]

I can say the same for Shepard is part of her/his story to gain the reputation which comes from their accomplishments.

That you can deny or learning the "truth" (your truth because i may as well say that the Maker helped me in gaining the Orb powers and made the Inquisitor an instrument of his will) doesn't make any difference,in the end for everyone you are the prophet sent by Andraste.

 

 

Funny enough, there is dialogue somewhere in the game where you can suggest that perhaps the Maker did have a hand in it still. That others still believe in the Herald of Andraste goes into the religiousness that I mentioned already. When was the last time anyone has ever successfully made nonbelievers of religious people? 

[Mr Fixit]

Dragon Age.

 

It's not so wrapped up in being "art"

 

Whatever this means...

[Brother Juniper]

Another reason I enjoyed DA more than ME was the music. I really liked the music in DA. My memory of the music in ME (tho' it's been a while since I played ME) was that it was computer generated, which is really not my bag.

[Ieldra]

Dragon Age.

 

It's not so wrapped up in being "art"

This is imprecise.

 

Most obviously any video game is art, some in several different ways. The difference lies elsewhere: an ME3 review called that game "failed art" because its ending failed to convey intent in a sufficiently clear manner and betrayed key themes of the story that came before by trying too hard to be profound.

 

Conversely, DA does present profound themes such as faith, or important social dilemmas like security vs. freedom, or philosophical themes like the impact and consequences of power and the inevitable desire we humans have for at least some measure of it, but as opposed to ME, these themes remain present and intact in much the same way throughout the games, only their representatives change, and the balance between different perspectives on them as more of the lore and the history of the world is revealed. ME doesn't even manage a balanced portrayal of different perspectives, it's rather heavy-handed in its messages until ME3's ending inadvertently nuliifies them all.

[Baboontje]

Such a difficult question. Both series are at the top of my favourite games and I really don't think I could ever place one above the other since they both have their pro's and cons. Plus whatever I am in the mood for obviously plays a huge part.

With ME I prefer the fact that we have the same protagonist for three games. It makes me feel more attached to the story unlike in DA where I can meet people who have been my friend or lover in the first game but then my current character obviously doesn't know them so they treat them like strangers. That makes me feel a bit disconnected from said character. I also vastly prefer a voiced character over a mute one. I found it always so stupid whenever something dramatic was going on and my Warden would just stand there either blank faced or mouth wide open.
And even though I really like the option to choose what race to play in DAO and DA:I, my Hawke always felt like she had the most personality. Especially when she was sarcastic.

DLC-wise ME3 would take the prize as it offers the best overall, however, Tresspasser as a Solasmancer is awesome as well and would only take second place to the Citadel DLC because that DLC just has plainly more content. I do really miss actual expansions and wish they would offer something like Awakenings for following games.

The Dragon Age series win hands down in the romance department. Having only one viable human male to romance as a straight female throughout three games is a severe shortcoming. And no, I don't count Jacob. I never liked him before ME3 and was glad I never did since he turned out to be an ass anyway. Leaving you for some randomer he happened to knock up.

Funnily enough even though I would always pick fantasy over sci-fi, I have more actual completed runs in all ME games than I do in DA games. I do have more attempted playthroughs in DA though.

Concerning classes, Dragon Age also wins. I enjoy playing as a mage over anything else offered though classes that enable the use of Biotics come in second.
Also, the fact that your character can have a happy ending or even just a semblance of a happy ending in any of the DA games, scores more points. I just don't want my characters to die.

So in conclusion....there is none. I love them both for different reasons.

[Iakus]

This is imprecise.

 

Most obviously any video game is art, some in several different ways. The difference lies elsewhere: an ME3 review called that game "failed art" because its ending failed to convey intent in a sufficiently clear manner and betrayed key themes of the story that came before by trying too hard to be profound.

 

Conversely, DA does present profound themes such as faith, or important social dilemmas like security vs. freedom, or philosophical themes like the impact and consequences of power and the inevitable desire we humans have for at least some measure of it, but as opposed to ME, these themes remain present and intact in much the same way throughout the games, only their representatives change, and the balance between different perspectives on them as more of the lore and the history of the world is revealed. ME doesn't even manage a balanced portrayal of different perspectives, it's rather heavy-handed in its messages until ME3's ending inadvertently nuliifies them all.

Sure.

 

But Dragon Age also seems to remember that at its heart, it's a game, meant to be enjoyed.  The concepts you mentioned, faith and security vs freedom are not shown to have simple, pat answers.  Mass Effect seems more determined to be right about...whatever deep concept it's trying to convey.  Thy say "This is true and we'll make it true even if we have to take a hammer to that puzzle piece and MAKE IT FIT!!!"