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NOTE: Time travel, FTL travel and teleportation are all considered impossible... in fact, science is FINALLY starting to admit some of these dreams are actually not going to happen... by lay-people still cling to their false idols.

Well, there are versions of time travel which still work. Of course, they only work because there's no free will and you can only do in the past whatever you always did do in the past.
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I think someone who makes that claim has no idea about what "magic" is and is myopically obsessed with his own interests (and yes, I like Arthur C. Clarke's books)
 
And it's totally false... if you take a camera to the Amazon and take pictures of them... they don't instantly say: "Magic image box!"  Not every primitve culture thinks cameras will steal their souls... modern people are just as ignorant (more actually) than primitives.  Being able to use an iPhone doesn't make you or I better.
 
That saying was stated by a progressive humanist who ignorantly believed that anyone born before him was a superstitious rube. 
 
If you ever have a chance... crack open an occult text in the real world... you simply couldn't emulate "magic" with science. 
 
It's like saying you could emulate art with science... it's stupid and ignorant - they serve two entirely different functions in humanity.
 
NOTE:  Time travel, FTL travel and teleportation are all considered impossible... in fact, science is FINALLY starting to admit some of these dreams are actually not going to happen... by lay-people still cling to their false idols. 
 
It has always been strange to me that science fanatics seem to think everything is possible when science is as much about what is NOT as it is about what IS.


You must not pay attention... There are expirements and hypothesis that have recently been brought forward hinting that FTL and teleportation may be possible. Key word "may". Stop assuming we have progressed far enough to understand what is and is jot possible. Who knows what we discover that changes how we understand the universe.

As for the rest of that post... Well, all I see is a bunch of unsupported opinion. While we have all seen how technology can fool people that something was "magic" and that is actually the point. Theough science, "magic" can be emulated. And who knows what exists in nature that would seem magical anyway.

Stop assuming that our limited understanding of the universe gives us any claim to what is possible or not. Claiming things such as biotics as impossible only shows a lack of imagination... That thing that has made what we previously believed impossible, possible. Who knows what we will make possible in the near future, let alone a thousand years barring catastrophe.
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I Prefer Dragon Age  

Dragon Age Origins is my favourite Bioware game

 

My series preference is partially due to my enjoyment of Origins and partially due to Mass Effect shifting away from RPG to shooter with the second game and focussing on multiplayer rather than singleplayer for the 3rd.


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Well, there are versions of time travel which still work. Of course, they only work because there's no free will and you can only do in the past whatever you always did do in the past.


Even more technically, travelling into the far future is still time travel. That we can't get back is a caveat but it doesn't just invalidate the whole affair.

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I didn't think I was going to like mass Effect at all, while I love reading Sci-Fi, and seeing Sci-Fi movies, that game genre never interested me....and add in a shooter? No way. But I picked up 1 and 2 just before 3 came out and loved them. it had everything in it I had come to love in the DA series (exploration, characters, banter, story). I was pretty much obsessed after playing ME2, but then after ME3, my obsession cooled. I still love the universe, the characters, the music (always gives me chills). I loved the chance to play through as the same character for three games and have the same companions with some new ones mixed in. And there were some massive emotional moments (like  Mordin, comedy AND feels).

 

Now DA series, also obsessed. My very first ever piece of fan-fic writing. 

 

I have to say for me, even though I have put WAAAAAYYYY more time into the DA series than the ME series, it's a tie. I love them both to bits, and have high hopes for MEA.



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You must not pay attention... There are expirements and hypothesis that have recently been brought forward hinting that FTL and teleportation may be possible. Key word "may". Stop assuming we have progressed far enough to understand what is and is jot possible. Who knows what we discover that changes how we understand the universe.

As for the rest of that post... Well, all I see is a bunch of unsupported opinion. While we have all seen how technology can fool people that something was "magic" and that is actually the point. Theough science, "magic" can be emulated. And who knows what exists in nature that would seem magical anyway.

Stop assuming that our limited understanding of the universe gives us any claim to what is possible or not. Claiming things such as biotics as impossible only shows a lack of imagination... That thing that has made what we previously believed impossible, possible. Who knows what we will make possible in the near future, let alone a thousand years barring catastrophe.

Impossible in the strict sense of "forever impossible" is of course a very hard claim, but there are technologies where, asked if I think they'll ever come to exist, would answer "Don't count on it." The thing is, for many proposed technologies we can circumscribe the conditions necessary for them to be possible to some degree, based on some fundamental physical laws that are unlikely to be simply proven wrong, and these circumstances are often very restrictive. Others may be theoretically possible, but that doesn't mean they'll ever be feasible.

 

Take biotics, for instance. What biotics do is manipulating gravity with their minds. Gravity is a very weak force, so much so that in order to have our standard weights we need a mass the size of the Earth. A biotic would have to simulate that, *and* at the same time, ensure that the gravity they simulate doesn't interfere with our planet. Then think about the energy that has to go into such an ability - talk about carrying a total conversion reactor in your head. And lastly, gravity is an effect of the structure of space, and any interference with it will also interfere with the structure of space. I'd say biotics are a pretty good candidate for "impossible".   

 

Scientific theories are rarely simply proven wrong. More often they're encompassed. General relativity won't go away if someone suddenly discovers a theory of quantum gravity, just as Newton's gravity laws didn't go away with Einstein, and every new encompassing theory added its own restrictions. 

 

So yes, we can still dream, and we should. After all, we'll never have certainty about these things. At the same time, however, "don't count on it" is, disappointingly often, the most plausible reply to the question "will X be possible one day?"

 

At the same time, some utterly fantastic things that don't contradict any established theories are often overlooked by SF writers. In general, I find many worlds of hard(er) SF considerably more interesting, because their creators need to look in odd directions, rather than simply ignoring existing science and making worlds, like ME, where everything works as on Earth only on a galactic scale. Isn't that boring? 

 

Not for the first time, I recommend a look at the Orion's Arm Universe Project. Everything in there doesn't contradict established science, even where it goes considerably beyond it. No FTL, no humanoid aliens, matter and energy conservation is maintained. Yet it's such a fascinating world that I can spend hours reading their equivalent of the Codex. 



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You must not pay attention... There are expirements and hypothesis that have recently been brought forward hinting that FTL and teleportation may be possible. Key word "may". Stop assuming we have progressed far enough to understand what is and is jot possible. Who knows what we discover that changes how we understand the universe.

As for the rest of that post... Well, all I see is a bunch of unsupported opinion. While we have all seen how technology can fool people that something was "magic" and that is actually the point. Theough science, "magic" can be emulated. And who knows what exists in nature that would seem magical anyway.

Stop assuming that our limited understanding of the universe gives us any claim to what is possible or not. Claiming things such as biotics as impossible only shows a lack of imagination... That thing that has made what we previously believed impossible, possible. Who knows what we will make possible in the near future, let alone a thousand years barring catastrophe.

 

Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe.  Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet.  Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

 

Agent K-Men in Black


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Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe.  Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet.  Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

 

Agent K-Men in Black

 

 

I feel compelled to point out that fifteen hundred years ago, we knew the Earth was round.


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I feel compelled to point out that fifteen hundred years ago, we knew the Earth was round.

 

What the earth is round and not flat i have to tell my father that he does not have to worry anymore while hunting for our dinner that he does not fall of the earth. But you are serious right ?
 
P.s The man in our cave hunt with bows and arrows now yes we are evolving. I am so proud of the man here ;)


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I prefer DAO to ME1

 

Apart from that ME wins



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I love both and neither series lacks for ambition but I always felt more immersed into Mass Effect I love space opera sci-fi and Shepard's story felt very personal people like Liara, Garrus, Tali, Wrex, and Joker felt like people I really knew.  It was one long journey that was an amazing experience.  Dragon Age is great and has great characters but it never immersed me in quite the same way Mass Effect did.  Not that I wasn't immersed in Dragon Age because I was but just more so with Mass Effect.  Also biotically charging an enemy and then incinerating them with my shotgun never gets old.



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What the earth is round and not flat i have to tell my father that he does not have to worry anymore while hunting for our dinner that he does not fall of the earth. But you are serious right ?
 
P.s The man in our cave hunt with bows and arrows now yes we are evolving. I am so proud of the man here.


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I give the slight edge to Dragon Age only.  Very slight edge because in general the Mass Effect games have been better...and better as games (by and large).  But then you have Dragon Age Inquisition come along, and especially Trespasser.  Plus it hits a lot more of the check marks that I like.  Character driven narrative, liberty versus tyranny, historical exploaration, and redemption stories galore.  It is just...amazing. 



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I had a long and emotional journey with my Sheps and it was a fun ride (despite the ending thing. Thank you Mr Fob for fixing that for me ^^v)
Using the same protags for 3 games really makes me feel so much attached to her and her crew.
The beginning of adventure and exploration, separated from her LI and forced to work with a former enemy and then return back to SA kicking reaper ass with familiar faces including with the man she has stubornly cling to despite hard times and it turn out to be that he wasn't letting her go either. One hell of a ride
ME1 was magical, ME2 was most fun (despite my LI wasn't there) and ME3 was a tearful goodbye and awsome (I love the chemistry between romanced kaidan and femshep there XD the intonation they used when speaking to one another) plus! There is the Citadel dlc and that mail slot achievement! :lol: (can you guess what class I'm playing? :P)

I'm not really attached to DA actually (DA:O was so so for me, DA2 didnt buy it after long reaserch) until that is, I met DAI.
I would shoot the warden and hawk without antagonising over it to save Shepard. But if it was Shepard vs Lavellan? Hoooo boy. Lets just say I'm thankful that they are Unverse apart

I'd have to say that overal DAI did a good job since it made me feel attached to my Inquisitor in a span of 1 game vs my Shepard in 3 games.

But overal, I'd have to go with ME (sorry Lavellan :( while Tempest is cool, u no have combat drone, snipe from crazy distance away and mail slot achievement :( )

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Yes you read it correctly  ;).

 

A couple of months ago i made another one of those posts and i got some likes ( and everyone loves to get likes right ) so that was the reason that i made such a post again but as you can see it did not bring me any likes what so ever :(  :D

 

I was just trying to be funny again but apparently i wasn't :P.  



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Hmm ... Dragon Age I suppose.  

 

I'm more of a sucker for Fantasy than I am Science Fiction (I'm a DnDer after all) and in general Dragon Age gives more opportunity for Role Playing and Head Cannon than Mass Effect did. :D



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Very tough call between the two.  Both have had tremendous moments and let down.  Before the ME3 ending I would have gone with the ME series for sure, after that it is much much closer.



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Okay they are both RPG's that is at least one thing they have in common one is in a fantasy world far away in the future and the other one is in a fantasy world in the past but are there more things that the two games have in common and what are they or did Bioware did a good job of making it two totally different games.
 
And what game is getting your preferences the Dragon Age series or the Mass Effect series and what is your favorite game of them all including the DLC's.
 
So what are your opinions about this OP ?

 

I love the Dragon Age games. My favorite is definitely DAO, but I really like Inquisition a lot too. As for Mass Effect, I find it to be average. It's a struggle sometimes to get through it.



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Both games are good, with highs and lows, though it would have to be Dragon Age for me. I personally find that the Dragon Age universe is more believable than the Mass Effect one. Even though the Mass Effect world should be bigger, it felt smaller somehow. I found it was overall more immersive with way more replayability as I played the ME trilogy only once. There are just so many options with DA as opposed to ME.

My major gripe with Mass Effect is that the transition from RPG to shooter was evident across the trilogy. The series was based on Shepard's dynamic with the crew and towards the end it felt lacking (never played Citadel DLC, sounds awesome!). Of course the ending did it no favors, I sat in front of the screen shell shocked (way more traumatized than DA2). ME3 had so much potential with awesome bits like Tuchanka- A thresher maw attacking a reaper FTW! And Mordin wanting to cure the genophage. I also cried when my husband made me pick the geth over the quarians (I didn't have Legion as he did) so I had to watch Tali, my sheps romance, cry and jump off a cliff. Why give me a paragon option if he doesn't catch her!?



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Well, Dragon Age, since I never played the ME series.

I feel compelled to point out that fifteen hundred years ago, we knew the Earth was round.


But even today, there are people who insist the Earth is flat.

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Well, Dragon Age, since I never played the ME series.


But even today, there are people who insist the Earth is flat.

 

Well that made the choice quite easy. 

 

And who are the people you are talking about here ? not me though  :P



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You must not pay attention... There are expirements and hypothesis that have recently been brought forward hinting that FTL and teleportation may be possible. Key word "may". Stop assuming we have progressed far enough to understand what is and is jot possible. Who knows what we discover that changes how we understand the universe.



Stop assuming that our limited understanding of the universe gives us any claim to what is possible or not. Claiming things such as biotics as impossible only shows a lack of imagination... That thing that has made what we previously believed impossible, possible. Who knows what we will make possible in the near future, let alone a thousand years barring catastrophe.

Many in the scientific community believe that backward time travel is highly unlikely. Any theory that would allow time travel would introduce potential problems of causality.Not sure if you ever read the Chronology protection conjecture,

teleportation and time travel doesn't strictly concern Human understanding of the universe or of technology but rather it may be that the universe does not possess the features to make it possible.



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Many in the scientific community believe that backward time travel is highly unlikely. Any theory that would allow time travel would introduce potential problems of causality.Not sure if you ever read the Chronology protection conjecture,

teleportation and time travel doesn't strictly concern Human understanding of the universe or of technology but rather it may be that the universe does not possess the features to make it possible.

 

Could be cool though time travel. If you make a mistake you can go back in time and correct your mistake. 



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Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe.  Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat

 

Agent K-Men in Black

 

According to the modern view of physics it does not make sense to talk about the motion of a body without having first established a reference system: the choice of the reference system is completely arbitrary and different choices imply different descriptions of planetary motion.Saying that the Earth is at the centre of the Universe isn't in contradiction to say that it isn't.
 
I think since the VI A.C there were speculations of the Earth being round.