To be fair, ME1's Shepard also was weirdly ignorant about humanity at times. They did a good job with the early dialogue though to cover up Shepard's ignorance by having Shepard volunteer information. It was a good use of a voiced PC.
I wish they'd have done more with that, and in some cases they did. Less obvious "pick this option for relevant codex entry turned dialogue" would be a good thing in my opinion.
That wasn't directed at you, my dear Crim
I know, but I needed to say something here. 
I wish they'd have done more with that, and in some cases they did. Less obvious "pick this option for relevant codex entry turned dialogue" would be a good thing in my opinion.
I just want them to avoid stuff like:
"Hey Shepard! Sorry for being late. You know how those vehicles propelled by an internal combustion engine are like when they run out of their fuel - gasoline, a derivative of commonly found hydrocarbons."
"Tell me more about internal combustion engines."
And so on.
Einstein is special compared to you and me and just about every other human not named Isaac Newton. Any alien species that mastered space travel however would have had their own Einstein(s), otherwise they wouldn't be space-faring. Einstein, would not be special in comparison to that alien version of himself.
Unless the alien races achieves spaceflight through different means. It's fiction and we can bullshit everything if we want to, inventing multiple scientific approaches to accomplishing certain high-tech tasks doesn't seem too far-fetched to me.
Most of the demo is also straight white males, too. Should we only be allowed to play as that?
I just want them to avoid stuff like:
"Hey Shepard! Sorry for being late. You know how those vehicles propelled by an internal combustion engine are like when they run out of their fuel - gasoline, a derivative of commonly found hydrocarbons."
"Tell me more about internal combustion engines."
And so on.
it worked best I think when even the "investigate" option at least had some form of base knowledge in. I can think of a few interactions from DA:O and DA:I that would have this. One example I can think of immediately is asking Iron Bull about the Ben Hassrath. One option lets you say you've never heard of them, another gives you an incomplete but not inaccurate picture (ignoring the options for a Qunari Inquisitor). More options like this as opposed to Shepard's numerous follies when talking about stuff that should be common knowledge.
I don't want to be an alien space rat anyway. They're disgusting scum.
The illusive man was right!!
I agree to some point. There are really only two protagonists that work well in consort with the story in DA:I, Human Inquisitor and female Dalish MAGE, the rest feel tacked on to the story. I am specifically referring to the protagonists in relationship to the story written and how the game provides feedback with regards to their perspective. There is almost zero insight given to a surface dwarf's perspective or a Tal-Vashoth perspective. Even the Dalish perspective is almost almost non existent, what we do get is insight in the the elven history through the romance of Solas which is best realised to it's fullest with a mage character and solas will only romance a female elf. DA:I's story just isn't written with any alien perspective. The Elven history revelations are all done from a protagonist's ignorance which could have worked with any race, but is only unlocked because of Solas' orientation and race gate and even then is only fully unlocked with a mage. If Solas was Bi and would romance any race then it would have taken only a few tweaks to the existing dialogue because there is no alien perspective written for the protagonist, simply the perspective of being ignorant to the truth.
Origins was another good game that really dropped the ball when people talk about the great job Bioware does with integrating race into the game it is almost exclusively from the perspective of the experience the player gets from the origin prologue. Once you get the ostagar you lose any unique perspective based on race.
Shepard works because it is the story of an human N7 soldier with slight variance to their background becoming the first human spectre who goes on to save the galaxy. I agree that because they don't waste any resources on the trappings of race they are able to write a tighter protagonist's story that works 'tighter' within the plot elements of the larger story.
I would argue that Bioware isn't as guilty of the humans are special trope as players accuse them of, they didn't start with that trope in ME1 and they abandoned it in one of the possible endings for ME3. Yes it loomed rather large in Me2 but I think much of that was because the game is told from Shepard's perspective while in an organization that goes on and on about human exceptionalism, which I never took as Bioware following the trope so much as Bioware using Human exceptionalism as a substitute for American exceptionalism for social commentary. And this type of substitute for social commentary is a stable of science fiction.
I agree with the bolded in particular. I think they might toy with the idea of what makes Humans "special," but they also entertain what makes Asari "special," and Krogan "special." They're much more conscious of the pitfalls of that trope than most older sci-fi writers.
It means human is the obvious choice for a single race character, I think the main point is that having a set race allows for a more engaging story and more inmersive interaction with npcs. Unlike for example playing a Dalish Elf in Inquisition who barely knows anything about it's culture (outside of headcanon), talks like a regular human without using any dalish terms and is basically refered to as a human 99% of the time dialogue wise.
Hasn't been the case with Hawke or Shepard. Despite being human-only, they didn't have more engaging stories or immersive interactions with NPCs compared to the Warden or Inquisitor. It was either the same and more often than not it was the opposite. At least for some players.
Pfffft Cerberus is nothing but Neo Nazis in space anyways.I don't want to be an alien space rat anyway. They're disgusting scum.
The illusive man was right!!
Pfffft Cerberus is nothing but Neo Nazis in space anyways.
If you like fraternizing with animals, that's your Prerogative. LOL 
Cerberus is about as stupid as the Nazis, yes. I mean, just logistically.. They're stupid for obvious reasons too.
They coulda been so much cooler.
Cerberus is about as stupid as the Nazis, yes. I mean, just logistically.. They're stupid for obvious reasons too.
They coulda been so much cooler.
Cerberus was humanity's future, If the Illusive man would have been a little bit more guided in his goals and didn't trust reaper tech (i.e alien technology) as much as he did, implanting himself with it, the milky way would have been saved. Cerberus was the only ones to acknowledge the reaper threat and put forth efforts to stop it. All the alliance did was pander to the council over and over, especially when humans were going missing, they did nothing to help their own species.
. We are animals we just biped with frontal lobes and opposable thumbs.If you like fraternizing with animals, that's your Prerogative. LOL
. We are animals we just biped with frontal lobes and opposable thumbs.
But they are of a different species. So, do you think a human should have a relationship with a dog on the same level as they would with another human being? no that's just nonsense.
But they are of a different species. So, do you think a human should have a relationship with a dog on the same level as they would with another human being? no that's just nonsense.
When you say relationship, what do you mean by that? There are different kinds of relationships, and the answer varies depending on which one.
When you say relationship, what do you mean by that? There are different kinds of relationships, and the answer varies depending on which one.
It doesn't matter what type of relationship. Point is you wouldn't treat a dog like you would a human no matter the relationship, that's ridiculous.
It doesn't matter what type of relationship. Point is you wouldn't treat a dog like you would a human no matter the relationship, that's ridiculous.
You are objectively wrong in that case.
Even the organization you love is named after a dog and sees themselves as that dog for humanity.
You are objectively wrong in that case. Even the organization you love is named after a dog.
What does it matter if they are named after a dog, that's irrelevant. What is relevant, is how Society does not give the same rights to animals as they would a human being, animals are not treated like humans. So how am I wrong?
But they are of a different species. So, do you think a human should have a relationship with a dog on the same level as they would with another human being? no that's just nonsense.
How myopic.
Hasn't been the case with Hawke or Shepard. Despite being human-only, they didn't have more engaging stories or immersive interactions with NPCs compared to the Warden or Inquisitor. It was either the same and more often than not it was the opposite. At least for some players.
I'd very much disagree, personally think they had more engaging personal stories because of the fixed human only.
What does it matter if they are named after a dog, that's irrelevant. What is relevant, is how Society does not give the same rights to animals as they would a human being, animals are not treated like humans. So how am I wrong?
They named themselves after that dog since they see themselves as that dog for humanity. Of all the guardians in all mythology, they chose the dog.
Also society does give some animals some of the same rights as humans. You can be arrested for abusing certain animals just like you can be arrested for abusing people for example.
But if what you're saying is true, then I guess that means Cerberus shouldn't have rights and be treated as the animals they see themselves as.
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