I'd very much disagree, personally think they had more engaging personal stories because of the fixed human only.
Good for you. As I said in my post, that doesn't apply to everyone.
However the assertion that being human only leads to the benefits described is wrong since not everyone experiences that and instead see no difference or experience the opposite.
They named themselves after that dog since they see themselves as that dog for humanity. Also society does give some animals some of the same rights as humans. You can be arrested for abusing certain animals just like you can be arrested for abusing people.
But if what you're saying is true, then I guess that means the people in Cerberus shouldn't have rights and be treated as animals. Guess we should just put them down...like dogs.
Yes they were named after a dog whom guarded the gates of Hades, the Illusive man took that name as symbolism. They where the guards of the Charon relay, to protect humanity from any invader brave enough to enter. But as I said their name is irrelevant it has nothing to do with the fact they are humans and have different rights from which animals have. The right for animals to have entitlement over the possession of their own life (or being abused) is just basic animal rights, which are different from human rights. Which are largely defined as social rights. Animals do not have social rights, which are the rights to education, right to housing, right to adequate standard of living, right to health, and the right to science and culture, ect..
But if you still believe that humans and animals share the same rights, riddle me this. Why can we kill a cow and eat it, but can't kill a human and eat it. Why can I not have a delicious human burger in the first world?
It doesn't matter what type of relationship. Point is you wouldn't treat a dog like you would a human no matter the relationship, that's ridiculous.
I do. My dog > 90% of the human race. I don't have sex with her though.
So you let your dog eat at your table? Do you let your dog use your toilet, or do you take it outside so it can urinate on a tree? I imagine you keep it on a leash as well. As much as you may think you treat your dog as a human you don't
Agree. On this one I'm with you.Why should humanity be special in that respect?
The other species would have had to overcome similar environmental challenges as our ancient ancestors, and would not have become masters of their own planet, let alone reach the stars...without the same intellectual curiosity, adaptability, resiliency, or determination.
Every time throughout human history when we've thought ourselves special, the universe has proven us wrong. The geocentric model of the universe went down in flames, as did the idea that we were created fully formed and separate from the animal kingdom by a divine being. The safe money is on that trend continuing if and when we ever find alien life.
The Humans Are Special trope is objectively stupid.
So you let your dog eat at your table? Do you let your dog use your toilet, or do you take it outside so it can urinate on a tree?
Ever since I taught her proper table manners and how to properly use the toilet, yes.
Agree. On this one I'm with you.
If even 24% of a grapevine genes are similar to human genes, then anybody opposing this, lives in a very small world.
oh yes : source National Geographic Magazine.
Ever since I taught her proper table manners and how to properly use the toilet, yes.
Yeah, sure. And I bet it knows how to wipe and flush as well 
Are we on subject about are aliens animals or humans again or is this just discussion about humanity of dogs? ^^;
So you let your dog eat at your table? Do you let your dog use your toilet, or do you take it outside so it can urinate on a tree? I imagine you keep it on a leash as well. As much as you may think you treat your dog as a human you don't
Yeah, sure. And I bet it knows how to wipe and flush as well
Why would it need to? We have a toilet that flushes automatically and comes equipped with a cleaning spray. I think it's called an electronic bidet but the exact term escapes me at the moment.
You're being too literal. My point is, I treat her better than I would treat certain people.
She has a good life. She even gets to sleep on my bed with me and has free reign of the house and backyard.
She is only leashed when I take her for a walk.
Okay sure that's the way you treat her. But the entire argument was about animals and humans not having the same rights. Just because you treat your dog well has nothing to do with the standards of how society treats animals. The point is animals do not hold the same rights as humans and will never stand as equals to humans.
She is only leashed when I take her for a walk.
Unfortunately, not an option for non-animal relatives and friends.
You're being too literal. My point is, I treat her better than I would treat certain people.
She has a good life. She even gets to sleep on my bed with me and has free reign of the house and backyard.
She is only leashed when I take her for a walk.
That's not how business works. If you are in a video game industry you are supposed to cater to gamers and give what they want, and it's the video game designers job to create a game what people crave for and to create ways to make their video games better than their previous games. It's never about what BioWare or EA wants and if that's the case they going to ****** a whole lot of people off and go to someone else who can meet their demands and making better games than BioWare. Believe it or not BioWare is challenged by developers like CD Projeckt Red and Bethesda and other devs that can make better RPGs than them, if BioWare wants to stay relevant they have to listen to fans and listen to critics so they can be consistent of making games and learn from their mistakes and fix them. But we'll wait and see what they can offer to the table.
It's the video game designers job to CREATE a game that's original and engaging to people. Your tenet limits game designers to being merely reactionary, not creative. When they only respond to the demands of fans, we get the same game being made over and over and over again, just with different skins. Nothing really new comes out. Whereas, when fans give developers the latitude to be creative and imaginative, we get new innovative games that engage us in ways we never dreamed they could.
Do you honestly think that the fans and critics of ME:A are "consistent." I see a lot of people arguing here... which means they are divided in their opinions. If they listened to every fan/critic... their work would be anything but consistent... but of course, you are really saying they should only listen to the fans/critics who happen to agree with you and ignore all the other fans/critics who are in disagreement with you... which is BS, IMO.
As for their competition, I'm sure they know that they have competition in this industry... but that doesn't mean they should be limited to copying that competition. I really don't want ME:A to be a carbon copy of Fallout 4.
What I want is something new and different... something that comes from their creative minds... minds more creative than my own. And, if that means forfeiting some consistency from a different story written 10 years ago... I'll happily just make that leap of faith with them.
OP: Your title implies that this thread is asking what is means to be human in Andromeda... I found it disappointing that your video really only explored AGAIN what it meant to be human in the Milky Way Galaxy of ME1 to 3. There is absolutely nothing that says humans will be viewed in the same ways they were viewed in ME1-3.
Cerberus was humanity's future, If the Illusive man would have been a little bit more guided in his goals and didn't trust reaper tech (i.e alien technology) as much as he did, implanting himself with it, the milky way would have been saved. Cerberus was the only ones to acknowledge the reaper threat and put forth efforts to stop it. All the alliance did was pander to the council over and over, especially when humans were going missing, they did nothing to help their own species.
Cerberus commited various crimes against humanity such as by repeatedly kidnapping people even children to use in inhumane experiments. The Illusive Man claimed ignorance of what the individual cells were doing and labelled them rogue because of it yet EDI says he only keeps so many cells as he can personally oversee their movements and actions. The Illusive Man either thought too highly of himself and failed to keep track of the amount of cells or he knew about the experiments and feigned ignorance. One cell is one thing, four cells is something else.
As a note: while it is debatable how much of help it was and would be, the Alliance did try to deal with the colonists were disappearing by outfitting colonies with defensive capabilities and sending combat experienced personnel there so I do think it is wrong to say they did nothing to help.
Cerberus was humanity's future, If the Illusive man would have been a little bit more guided in his goals and didn't trust reaper tech (i.e alien technology) as much as he did, implanting himself with it, the milky way would have been saved. Cerberus was the only ones to acknowledge the reaper threat and put forth efforts to stop it. All the alliance did was pander to the council over and over, especially when humans were going missing, they did nothing to help their own species.
I'll agree with all of that.
And yet I still somehow don't like Cerberus. lol
My attitude is the same regarding table top gaming.
I've been in two space age games where I've been told I can only play human.
Dark Heresy Warhammer 40k: Nope can only play human. No Eldar or Orks. Just humans.
Traveller: Humans only.
The Mass Effect universe is home to so many epic races.
I don't mind having a protagonist without voice acting if that is what it takes to play as multiple races.
One person said: what if you have a limited race selection? People might complain that they can't play their preferred race.
Well if the race selection is limited to: Turian, Salarian, Asari and Human, sure that would be a bummer, but that's 3 more races I couldn't play as before. The more the merrier.
I strongly welcome the possibility of playing different races.
Okay sure that's the way you treat her. But the entire argument was about animals and humans not having the same rights. Just because you treat your dog well has nothing to do with the standards of how society treats animals. The point is animals do not hold the same rights as humans and will never stand as equals to humans.
Cerberus commited various crimes against humanity such as by repeatedly kidnapping people even children to use in inhumane experiments. The Illusive Man claimed ignorance of what the individual cells were doing and labelled them rogue because of it yet EDI says he only keeps so many cells as he can personally oversee their movements and actions. The Illusive Man either thought too highly of himself and failed to keep track of the amount of cells or he knew about the experiments and feigned ignorance. One cell is one thing, four cells is something else.
As a note: while it is debatable how much of help it was and would be, the Alliance did try to deal with the colonists were disappearing by outfitting colonies with defensive capabilities and sending combat experienced personnel there so I do think it is wrong to say they did nothing to help.
I agree with you that the Illusive man was a bit excessive in the way he conducted operations, but sometimes a few deaths are necessary to save many lives. As for the alliance it took them a span of 3 games, to help get in gear for the reapers. If it wasn't for Anderson and Hackett the Alliance wouldn't have done virtually anything. Plus the only reason Ashley was on Horizon outfitting the colonies was because of the Alliance thinking Cerberus was behind the missing colonies, not the reapers. They denied the reapers just like the Alien scum. If it wasn't for Shepard and Cerberus, the galaxy would have denied the truth to the very end.
And I couldn't care less for the "standards of society". Sure, humanity is the most evolved of all species. But in certain ways, not so much.
I won't go into this, though. I'm sick of politics and social issues on a gaming forum.
Politics?
I've been skimming the thread. I read something about sex with dogs.
Politics?
I've been skimming the thread. I read something about sex with dogs.
This made me laugh!!
The video is crap. Sorry, you probably put a lot of work into it but... yeah. Crap.
You really shouldn't talk about races anyway, it's species. 
Politics?
I've been skimming the thread. I read something about sex with dogs.
I agree with you that the Illusive man was a bit excessive in the way he conducted operations, but sometimes a few deaths are necessary to save many lives. As for the alliance it took them a span of 3 games, to help get in gear for the reapers. If it wasn't for Anderson and Hackett the Alliance wouldn't have done virtually anything. Plus the only reason Ashley was on Horizon outfitting the colonies was because of the Alliance thinking Cerberus was behind the missing colonies, not the reapers. They denied the reapers just like the Alien scum. If it wasn't for Shepard and Cerberus, the galaxy would have denied the truth to the very end.
I am not saying that the Illusive Man was a bit excessive in the way he conducted the operations. I am saying that the Illusive Man and his organization of Cerberus commited crimes against humanity. To name a few that they commited majorly against the civilian populace of humanity;
• Murder
• Imprisonment;
• Torture
• Enforced disappearance of persons
• Other inhumane acts of similar character intentionally causing great suffering or serious bodily or mental injury
Regardless of whether or not the results came to be useful in some capacity, it still stands that Cerberus is guilty of crimes against humanity.
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