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[Technocore]

I just finished ME3 for the first time, paragon all the way through from ME1. I decided to start over again from ME1 with a new character but try being a renegade. And right away just starting out on the Normandy picking the mean answer to every dialogue option, how does that work in the long run? I usually play the good guy in games because... well, I'm the protagonist. It always seems like the best options, best outcomes, best interactions come about through building positive relationships and helping people out. So how does renegade work? If I play through always picking the mean dialogue option, does it limit the game or is it just different?  Seems like the game would be a lot smaller if my reply to everyone is essentially "screw you buddy!" 

[BurningBlood]

"Always choose the bottom option" Shep just comes across as a moronic *******.

 

For me renegade worked better when I started the conversation with the middle option then switched to the bottom one when it was to my benefit.  Lure people in, then screw them over when you have leverage.

 

"Can you help me?"
"Meh, if I have time."

"I can make it worth your while!  200 credits!"

"I'll see what I can do."

(Later, returning after completing mission:)

"Oh thank you!  Here are your 200 credits."
"Actually we agreed on 400."

"...What?"

"Remember?  See, the contract is signed right here in the blood of my enemies."

"400 of course, here you go!"

[Excella Gionne]

Let's just say going complete a-hole(pure renegade)won't always lead to the best outcomes. Sometimes, you have to balance out renegade and paragon. If you want to go more renegade, then be a renegon, but if you want to be more paragon, then go paragade. Either one is better. Going full paragon can make you feel too nice or just ignorant of some situations that involve one's morals. Renegade, as I said, can make you a complete a-hole or just a plain dick or a biatch. If you really want to go pure renegade, then by all means, go for it, but I could never do it despite forcing myself to play "kill everyone" playthroughs. 

 

Paragon strives more towards heroism, while renegade is more, I guess, "practical" and aggressive. Renegade is a bit hard for me to explain, but in short, it's about "getting the job done." In Mass Effect 2, well, you sort of have to commit yourself to either alignments to achieve full paragon or renegade. On PC, I max my Paragon out and add in some renegade just so I don't have to worry about the committing and can play how I want to play it. I'm a paragade, mainly, and I enjoy it that way.

[themikefest]

being a renegade doesn't mean you're playing as a jerk. The majority of my playthroughs have been playing renegade.

 

I've done a renegade playthrough with everyone alive and I've done a paragon playthrough with everyone dead and having Shepard live. Its up to you what you do in the playthrough. You have the power to do whatever within the limits of the game.

[aoibhealfae]

I like playing Neutral-renegade these days. Not being completely moronic ass*** but not being completely naive dooffus either. 

The common mistake that people assume about Renegade was thinking that you can be a jerk to their beloved squadmates. You don't. You're mostly just dismissive and formal, the only true renegade you can make was involving you directly killing them or causing their deaths. I do like being renegade to Kaidan either romanced or unromanced and he's even more funny if you 'renegade' him. Even choosing to be renegade with Garrus and Ashley give a neutral positive and diplomatic response which I felt the alignment is pointless eitherway. Only Jack give the f-word to you but not enough that she want to kill you if you're mean to her. I think the most offensive renegade thing I could ever say to Liara was the conversation with Vasir about all Asari are only good at being strippers, she look really stunned at that.

 

But if you want to be completely evil and very anti-hero, I suggest TOR franchise instead. Ah.. the multiple of times when people called me a monster.

[Monica21]

In my only Renegade playthrough (so far) I think that ME1 Renegade tends to come off as stupid and arrogant, rather than just practical. One exchange I remember was with Kahoku when he asks for your help, and the bottom right answer to his statement about you being a Spectre is something like, "How do you know that? Are you following me around?" Or something equally dumb, and I remember thinking, geez, he was in the same room just now when they made you a Spectre. Don't be an idiot.

Renegade tends to be more about the choices you make rather than the dialogue you choose though, even though ME2 and 3 does a better job with the bottom right and with the interrupts at making those choices seem like a practical choice and not a stupid choice. In the asteroid mission in ME1, the decision to let the hostages die is a Renegade decision, but I always make it, whether Paragon or Renegade, because I don't negotiate with Balak and I'm not letting him get away. In ME1 I had a harder time finding the balance between Renegade dialogue and Renegade decisions than I did in the successive games.

[Technocore]

Thanks everyone for the input. I'll try to ease up on picking the pure a-hole dialogue options but still make the renegade choices.

[Obliviousmiss]

I enjoy being a full a-hole Renegade. Especially in Mass Effect 2, trying to get discounts on the Citadel. But I know that's not everyone's thing, you play how you wanna play! 

[Monica21]

I enjoy being a full a-hole Renegade. Especially in Mass Effect 2, trying to get discounts on the Citadel. But I know that's not everyone's thing, you play how you wanna play!

When I did my Renegade playthrough I did miss being able to say, "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the Citadel." Even when I do more Renegade runs, I'll probably always choose the Paragon option for that, just because I really like it.

[Obliviousmiss]

When I did my Renegade playthrough I did miss being able to say, "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the Citadel." Even when I do more Renegade runs, I'll probably always choose the Paragon option for that, just because I really like it.

 

I just think Shep is hilarious when she/he shouts, "Hey everyone! This store discriminates against the poor!" And the Asari quickly gives them a discount to shut them up.

 

Either way, I think Renegade options are mostly fun. 

[congokong]

You can certainly be auto-renegade, but my canon was a "reasonable renegade." If you want your character to be ruthless/practical but not just a complete ass (think Jack Bauer of 24), try to create a personality for them. My Shepard may have been renegade on the big decisions and never once hit a paragon (blue) persuasion, but she was very sympathetic. And a background like colonist/ruthless gives you much to build on for your character's psyche. It's easy to see how what happened on Mindoir could be motivation for Shepard's ruthlessness at Torfan, for example.

 

Here's my canon's background, if you're curious.

 

http://forum.bioware...shepards-story/

[congokong]

I just think Shep is hilarious when she/he shouts, "Hey everyone! This store discriminates against the poor!" And the Asari quickly gives them a discount to shut them up.

 

Either way, I think Renegade options are mostly fun. 

Renegades definitely have the best one-liners, no question. I also prefer those very few renegade-exclusive options over the paragon ones. Ex: Achieving the "shortest interrogation ever" with Elias Kellum. Oh boy, and it's shortly followed by possibly my favorite scene in the series when you gun down the hostage, Jorum.

 

Shepard- "Hostages only work when your enemy cares if they lives."

Thane - "Interesting solution."

 

I'm sure a human spectre unnecessarily gunning down a turian politician protesting humanity will help relieve species tensions on the Citadel after I let the council die in ME1. lol

 

In my only Renegade playthrough (so far) I think that ME1 Renegade tends to come off as stupid and arrogant, rather than just practical. One exchange I remember was with Kahoku when he asks for your help, and the bottom right answer to his statement about you being a Spectre is something like, "How do you know that? Are you following me around?" Or something equally dumb, and I remember thinking, geez, he was in the same room just now when they made you a Spectre. Don't be an idiot.

I get what you mean, yet found that line rather funny. It made Shepard come across as super paranoid.

[CptFalconPunch]

Dont mindlessly choose bottom options.