They're not mentally deficient, so I doubt that's true. If they can have the precision and clarity to do some of the best enchanting in Thedas, I'm pretty sure they can feed themselves.
Edit: Changed a word to make it sound a little better.
Didn't Minaeve also say they can't even feed themselves? Really, it seems Bioware doesn't know how tranquil should act
My point is that I'm pretty sure that she did NOT say that. And I really don't see how Bioware has been inconsistent on Tranquil at all.
Didn't Minaeve also say they can't even feed themselves? Really, it seems Bioware doesn't know how tranquil should act
Not, as far as I know.
Here's the transcript of her dialogue about the Tranquil;
Inquisitor: "You said you were keeping some of the Tranquil safe?"
Minaeve: "Yes, the mages took some of them when my Circle rebelled. The rest were forgotten. Most Circle mages look down the Tranquil or try pretending they don't exist. They don't have any emotions, they can barely take care of themselves, can't defend themselves at all. It's a shame, I like them better than most people."
Inquisitor: "I'm glad they have someone like you."
Minaeve: "They deserve better. They're polite, they're rational and they never get angry at you. When they study, they have a focus no normal person could ever match but the Templars, even some of the mages mistreated them just because they could. The Tranquil never fought back."
Here is what the Wikipedia says on the State of Tranquility;
In the mind of the Tranquil, there is no passion. They keep to themselves, and, if asked directly, will readily agree that having the opportunity to live out a peaceful and useful existence is far preferable when compared to what their alternatives would have been.
The Tranquil are stripped of their capacity to form anything other than a logical opinion. However, they neither lose their memory nor become automatons: they possess free will. They do not wish to die (unless it's for a cause they believe in and are no more susceptible to suggestion than they were previously. They are more agreeable and would not normally oppose an authority figure, because they do not possess the desire to object, but if the Tranquil see a logical reason not to follow an order, they do so. Tranquil can't take offense and know no modesty.
Tranquil can be creative, insofar as a very logical scientist might be. They pursue a means to an end, and are capable of coming up with alternate solutions to problems. They are, however, methodical to a fault. They are not taken by inspiration, and some might say what they lack is intuition. The fact that they do not get bored and take no pleasure out of creating takes much of the impetus away for them to change their methods or seek to create something different unless there is a clear reason to.
I think the reason the Tranquil were not known by Minaeve to defend themselves in the Circles were because the people they'd be defending themselves against had armor, sword and shield and magic. It would be illogical to challenge those odds. It is also unlikely that they'd go to a figure of authority because of how they were treated if they thought there'd be little justice done and they'd be the only ones to face consequence when the person who had mistreated them learned about it.
Here is what the Wikipedia says on the State of Tranquility;
In the mind of the Tranquil, there is no passion. They keep to themselves, and, if asked directly, will readily agree that having the opportunity to live out a peaceful and useful existence is far preferable when compared to what their alternatives would have been.
The Tranquil are stripped of their capacity to form anything other than a logical opinion. However, they neither lose their memory nor become automatons: they possess free will. They do not wish to die (unless it's for a cause they believe in and are no more susceptible to suggestion than they were previously. They are more agreeable and would not normally oppose an authority figure, because they do not possess the desire to object, but if the Tranquil see a logical reason not to follow an order, they do so. Tranquil can't take offense and know no modesty.
Tranquil can be creative, insofar as a very logical scientist might be. They pursue a means to an end, and are capable of coming up with alternate solutions to problems. They are, however, methodical to a fault. They are not taken by inspiration, and some might say what they lack is intuition. The fact that they do not get bored and take no pleasure out of creating takes much of the impetus away for them to change their methods or seek to create something different unless there is a clear reason to.
For some reason, this descritpion makes me think of the Architect.
Given that the Tranquil presumably did not vote for the rebellion, leaving them behind seems to be more fair for everyone. The Chantry mutilated them, the Chantry should look after them.
They are "mutilated" fellow mages! Abandoning them is showing the rebels are little better than the Templars they oppose.
Didn't Minaeve say te tranquil were abandoned because they couldn't feed themselves and they would just be dead weight?
She said the tranquil can barely take care of themselves. Their lack of emotions gives them little sense of self-preservation.
They are "mutilated" fellow mages! Abandoning them is showing the rebels are little better than the Templars they oppose.
Please explain the scarequotes.
Minaeve: "They deserve better. They're polite, they're rational and they never get angry at you. When they study, they have a focus no normal person could ever match but the Templars, even some of the mages mistreated them just because they could. The Tranquil never fought back."
Just thought I'd bold that... 
Please explain the scarequotes.
You said "The Chantry mutilated them" By some definitions this is a true enough statement.
But as I said, they were mutilated mages. Their own people (if such a thing is considered important) Why would a mage rebellion not see it as their duty to care for these victims of the Chantry?
You said "The Chantry mutilated them" By some definitions this is a true enough statement.
But as I said, they were mutilated mages. Their own people (if such a thing is considered important) Why would a mage rebellion not see it as their duty to care for these victims of the Chantry?
It's a question of whether they were actually capable of doing so.
It's a question of whether they were actually capable of doing so.
If they can't or won't protect their fellow mages, then what are they fighting for?
If they can't or won't protect their fellow mages, then what are they fighting for?
How would you propose to keep safe a bunch of people in guerrilla warfare who have no survival instinct?
They are "mutilated" fellow mages! Abandoning them is showing the rebels are little better than the Templars they oppose.
She said the tranquil can barely take care of themselves. Their lack of emotions gives them little sense of self-preservation.
The rebels ARE little better than the Templars hey oppose.
Good to see our resident liberators are as draconian as anyone else.
@Xilizhra: A compassionate person would take them into account when making their decision.
A selfish douche would do what the mages did.
"F--k the Divine." Explains everything you need to know about Fiona and the mage rebellion.
Vivienne speaks my mind about mages (and Fiona) almost to a "T" - but when it comes to her power mongering political nature - she's gross.
The rebels ARE little better than the Templars hey oppose.
Good to see our resident liberators are as draconian as anyone else.
@Xilizhra: A compassionate person would take them into account when making their decision.
A selfish douche would do what the mages did.
"F--k the Divine." Explains everything you need to know about Fiona and the mage rebellion.
Vivienne speaks my mind about mages (and Fiona) almost to a "T" - but when it comes to her power mongering political nature - she's gross.
How would you propose to keep safe a bunch of people in guerrilla warfare who have no survival instinct?
First I wouldn't cut a deal with Tevinter... 
Gotta admit you walked into that one 
I don't recall mages planning on raping people like Templars.
Is that really the standard you hold them up to?
Vivienne speaks my mind about mages (and Fiona) almost to a "T" - but when it comes to her power mongering political nature - she's gross.
Yeah I don't exactly agree with everything she says, but she has the rebel mages pegged.
First I wouldn't cut a deal with Tevinter...
Gotta admit you walked into that one
No, I don't, because that either has nothing to do with the Tranquil, or you're proposing that the Tranquil were not abandoned, but rather snatched by the Venatori from Redcliffe.
First I wouldn't cut a deal with Tevinter...
Gotta admit you walked into that one
How would you propose to keep safe a bunch of people in guerrilla warfare who have no survival instinct?
Well the mage rebellion wasn't made 100% of capable fighters from the start, they had kids , mages who sucked at magic , elderly , tranquils etc....you get the feeling at Redcliffe most mages even pro freedom ones didn't want to fight a war at all.
Not sure tranquils would be super difficult to handle , they mostly do what they're told , and have useful skills , like making potions enchantments.
Sure during a battle it's another story but you'd stuck them with the kids and old people .
You'd think during guerilla warfare escape route and some safe places would be something to think about.Not talking anything fancy there , but there was the mage collective and the factions of rebel mages in Kirkwall (can't remember their names) who've been at it for a couple of years now.
No, I don't, because that either has nothing to do with the Tranquil, or you're proposing that the Tranquil were not abandoned, but rather snatched by the Venatori from Redcliffe.
I was proposing that the mages themselves were a bunch of people fighting a guerrilla war with no survival skills
So if the mages made a deal with say Nevarra or Rivain, you'd have no problem?
Depends on what the deal was exactly.
With Tevinter, though, you can be pretty sure it would be Faustian at best. The only group that would arguably be worse would be the Qunari
Vivienne and her loyalists were in a much better position to keep the tranquil safe, but they obviously cared even less than the rebel mages. She's in no position to criticise Fiona here.
I'm sure Vivienne took very good care of the Tranquil under her care. And not leave to fend for themselves, or to the not-so-tender mercies of the Templars or Venatori like Fiona did.
I'm sure Vivienne took very good care of the Tranquil under her care.
If she didn't cure them, this is incorrect.
If she didn't cure them, this is incorrect.
As Cassandra points out, the cure still needs to be studied in-depth. An emotionally unstable mage is incredibly dangerous, even if they can no longer be possessed.
I'm sure Vivienne took very good care of the Tranquil under her care. And not leave to fend for themselves, or to the not-so-tender mercies of the Templars or Venatori like Fiona did.
Meh.Vivienne says when finding the tranquil skulls "I thought they would be safe with the rebel mages" ....
It seems to me the tranquils were like a hot potato nobody really wanted .
People who actually looked after tranquils are the weirdos , like Minaeve , or....Samson .
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