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[vbibbi]

Probably because children or mages like Connor don't really have a fighting chance against an army of heavily armed zealots who kill every mage on sight.

Pretty sure Connor could have held his own against an entire village. Oh wait...

[Master Warder Z_]

I killed those "heavily armed zealots" myself and established a heavy Inquisition presence in the Hinterlands.  The rest of the Templars were literally on the other side of the country.  

 

It's the mage zealots in Redcliffe that were the real threat to them.

 

Bunch of Tevinter collaborators the lot of them.

[Colonelkillabee]

All I know is that ****** is fine, lol.

 

That and she gets a lot of hate from people because they judge her too harshly, myself included. It's gonna be that way when there's still questions about exactly what happened. It seems to me that there was either some blood magic trickery, but at the very least we do know she and the mages were manipulated with time magic. Either way, while she did **** up and I conscript the lot of them, I'm not too hard on her anymore.

 

Plus, cougar, so. Elven cougar. Mmm.

[Master Warder Z_]

All I know is that ****** is fine, lol.

 

[Colonelkillabee]

Likewise

 

More cougar elf for me

[Master Warder Z_]

Likewise

 

Hey at least my fictional best girl won't break her damn hip when she tries to get off the bed.

 

<.< *Cough* I mean Fiona is old enough to have naturally occurring dementia. If you don't know anything about the illness, a quick google search will reveal to you its a most commonly 65 and up disease. 

 

But hey, I'll give you a wet wipe.

[Hellion Rex]

You assume every Templar hates mages. Your bias is showing, my dear.

[Hellion Rex]

Probably because children or mages like Connor don't really have a fighting chance against an army of heavily armed zealots who kill every mage on sight.

I do recall quite a few mages in the Hinterlands as well who were doing the "shoot first, ask questions never" shtick as well, so you can hardly cast stones.

[Colonelkillabee]

Hey at least my fictional best girl won't break her damn hip when she tries to get off the bed.

 

<.< *Cough* I mean Fiona is old enough to have naturally occurring dementia. If you don't know anything about the illness, a quick google search will reveal to you its a most commonly 65 and up disease. 

 

But hey, I'll give you a wet wipe.

She's an elf, guy, lol. If she can move around enough to kill people in Haven, she can romp

 

Side note: Who the hell doesn't know what dementia is? Rofl.

[Colonelkillabee]

Hey at least my fictional best girl

Also, I don't have a "fictional best girl", lol, I have many I love. For DA, Cassandra and Morrigan are at the top, but I sure do love some elves You know this already Z.

[Master Warder Z_]

She's an elf, guy, lol. If she can move around enough to kill people in Haven, she can romp

 

Side note: Who the hell doesn't know what dementia is? Rofl.

 

And Haman Karn is a purple haired psychopathic yandere. o.o With psychic powers and a giant mech.

 

And a penchant for lovers that don't hit legal age requirements in most of the western world.

 

Did you know the most common age of the afflicted? I do, but that's merely because it impacted me personally and I learned more then I wanted to about it.

[Colonelkillabee]

And Haman Karn is a purple haired psychopathic yandere. o.o With psychic powers and a giant mech.

 

A penchant for lovers that don't hit legal age requirements in most of the western world.

 

Did you know the most common age of the afflicted? I do, but that's merely because it impacted me personally and I learned more then I wanted to about it.

No clue who the hell that is but I think you're missing the point of me saying she's an elf. Elves don't age the same way humans do, so even bringing up dementia age for them is a bit silly.

[Vit246]

That and she gets a lot of hate from people because they judge her too harshly, myself included. 

This matches my sentiments.

 

 It's gonna be that way when there's still questions about exactly what happened. It seems to me that there was either some blood magic trickery, but at the very least we do know she and the mages were manipulated with time magic.

What happened exactly was Bioware. They half-assed the whole thing with cheap casual time travel magic which stripped Fiona of agency and deprived players of a diplomatic opportunity to actually go talk to her and negotiate an agreement while in one of the best defensible castles in Ferelden. And it gave us an excuse to have enemies to kill the shite out of.

 

 Either way, while she did **** up and I conscript the lot of them, I'm not too hard on her anymore.

 

Mayhaps you might be open to offering an alliance? Because the way I rationalize it, conscription might be seen by the mages as a form of subjugation which they've been fighting to escape from, only to be subjugated once more by a foreign organization. It might backfire by fueling resentment and rebellion. By offering an alliance, you present them with a choice, even though its an illusion of choice since there's no way they're gonna say no, they need to feel some measure of control over their lives. They need to feel they are being treated as equal partners and not subjugated underling vassals. They might feel more indebted to you in a way conscription could never accomplish.

But thats just me.

[Master Warder Z_]

No clue who the hell that is but I think you're missing the point of me saying she's an elf. Elves don't age the same way humans do, so even bringing up dementia age for them is a bit silly.

 

She's a city elf, they have the same life span as humans, that's set in stone lore last time I bothered to actually check, assuming they didn't retcon it.

 

So basically you hit 60s-80s and your done.

[Master Warder Z_]

which they've been fighting to escape from

 

And failing horribly

 

They really can't be picky.

[Colonelkillabee]

She's a city elf, they have the same life span as humans, that's set in stone lore last time I bothered to actually check, assuming they didn't retcon it.

 

So basically you hit 60s-80s and your done.

If that's correct I'd like to see it for myself, as I've never heard that before. Even if that's the case, appearance wise they look young longer, like she does. She's fine, and not suffering from dementia, so I don't care :/

[Iakus]

Bunch of Tevinter collaborators the lot of them.

Not all.  But enough to keep the truly innocent cowed.

[Colonelkillabee]

 

This matches my sentiments.

 

What happened exactly was Bioware. They half-assed the whole thing with cheap casual time travel magic which stripped Fiona of agency and deprived players of a diplomatic opportunity to actually go talk to her and negotiate an agreement while in one of the best defensible castles in Ferelden. And it gave us an excuse to have enemies to kill the shite out of.

 

Mayhaps you might be open to offering an alliance? Because the way I rationalize it, conscription might be seen by the mages as a form of subjugation which they've been fighting to escape from, only to be subjugated once more by a foreign organization. It might backfire by fueling resentment and rebellion. By offering an alliance, you present them with a choice, even though its an illusion of choice since there's no way they're gonna say no, they need to feel some measure of control over their lives. They need to feel they are being treated as equal partners and not subjugated underling vassals. They might feel more indebted to you in a way conscription could never accomplish.

But thats just me.

 

Sigh, sadly this is true.

 

As for offering an alliance, nah. As much as I'd like to trust them, regardless of why they made the mistakes they did, their mistakes were enormous. And regardless of whether my girl had a choice of siding with the Tevinters or not, she did side with them, a direct enemy to South Thedas. There's no military leader in the world that would forgive something like that and last long without being overthrown by their own people, or assassinated. They're pretty much the walking example of what happens when mages go unchecked.

 

So, I go the tough love route, which is how I handle the Grey Wardens as well. My character is more the military minded leader than the charismatic everybody loves me one that bioware wants you to be.

[Master Warder Z_]

If that's correct I'd like to see it for myself, as I've never heard that before. Even if that's the case, appearance wise they look young longer, like she does. She's fine, and not suffering from dementia, so I don't care :/

 

o.o Replay DAO and talk to the Keeper's second then or find a video of it, shouldn't be hard.

 

I can't find the old quote from Kirby explaining it, so first hand would have to do.

[Colonelkillabee]

o.o Replay DAO and talk to the Keeper's second then or find a video of it, shouldn't be hard.

 

I can't find the old quote from Kirby explaining it, so first hand would have to do.

If it shouldn't be hard, then you can provide us with the proof of your claims

 

Like I said, it doesn't matter. She could be 80, I'd still tap it considering she barely looks half that, isn't breaking any bones when she moves, and isn't suffering from dementia either, lol.

[Master Warder Z_]

If it shouldn't be hard, then you can provide us with the proof of your claims

 

Like I said, it doesn't matter. She could be 80, I'd still tap it considering she barely looks half that, isn't breaking any bones when she moves, and isn't suffering from dementia either, lol.

 

You are just plain lazy.

 

._.

 

And this proving to be a chore, dig through it or don't.

 

Also I was misremembering its Gheyna you need to talk to, just to put you in the right direction, because you will speak of Zatharian's life span in comparison to the Dalish, and then to City Elves, with the folks in the cities living the least out of the three.

[Colonelkillabee]

You are just plain lazy.

 

._.

 

And this proving to be a chore, dig through it or don't.

 

Also I was misremembering its Gheyna you need to talk to, just to put you in the right direction, because you will speak of Zatharian's life span in comparison to the Dalish, and then to City Elves, with the folks in the cities living the least out of the three.

I could say the same about you. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is yours. Irrelevant as it is.

[Xilizhra]

You can't fight a war that leads to the deaths of thousands of members of a society in order for that society to radically alter the way it interacts with you and then still expect the very rules you were fighting against to protect you if you need them to.

 

You can either fight for independence or expect the assistance of Templars and those espousing their beliefs. You can't have both.

It really doesn't matter what they expected or did not expect. What matters is the Herald's ethics.

 

 

...who willingly got into bed with Tevinter

Still non-negotiable. Especially since children by definition can't consent to that kind of thing.

[sniper_arrow]

So all those mages saying they would have never sided with Tevinter and disapprove of the alliance with Tevinter means every Mage totally supports the alliance with Tevinter?

And that justifies letting kids become slaves, be used as sacrifices for blood magic, or have demons but inside them?

And people say I generalize

 

There's the option of leaving with the Inquisition after meeting Fiona and Alexus at Redcliffe Village. But, they didn't do so (at least as shown in the game). This shows that either they also didn't trust the Inquisition at the time or wanting the Herald to rescue them like a princess to a prince. 

 

There are some, like Linnea, who were gung-ho on allying with them. 

[sniper_arrow]

Who in their right minds would let Adrian be within a mile of the peace talks?

 

Given her entry in WOT2, I would say some view her as one of the leaders of the talks due to her endless yapping about freedom and subjugation. Also, her personality would demand access to what goes on during the peace talks.