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[Master Warder Z_]

I could say the same about you. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is yours. Irrelevant as it is.

I can't seem to find any video that isn't about seducing her :/

[The Hierophant]

You are just plain lazy.

 

._.

 

And this proving to be a chore, dig through it or don't.

 

Also I was misremembering its Gheyna you need to talk to, just to put you in the right direction, because you will speak of Zatharian's life span in comparison to the Dalish, and then to City Elves, with the folks in the cities living the least out of the three.

 

I could say the same about you. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is yours. Irrelevant as it is.

Nah, i think it was from this post by Mary Kirby.

 

 http://forum.bioware...gest/?bioware=1

[Master Warder Z_]

Nah, i think it was from this post by Mary Kirby.

http://forum.bioware...gest/?bioware=1

Of course you find the quote easy enough...

I bet you bribed someone for it...friggin Volus.

[The Hierophant]

Of course you find the quote easy enough...

I bet you bribed someone for it...friggin Volus.

I'll forever remember that thread for all the salt Kirby's post produced.

[Iakus]

 

Still non-negotiable. Especially since children by definition can't consent to that kind of thing.

As I said, the ones who are truly helpless, the ones being forced to stay, by those who are willingly collaborating with the enslavement of their fellow mages to save their own hides, those I sympathize for.

[sniper_arrow]

I'll forever remember that thread for all the salt Kirby's post produced.

 

I just read it and noticed the warnings Allan posted. What did occur after the post?

[Xilizhra]

As I said, the ones who are truly helpless, the ones being forced to stay, who are willingly collaborating with the enslavement of their fellow mages to save their own hides, those I sympathize for.

And those are the ones who need saving, which I will do. I also won't conscript them, which still involves punishing the innocent.

[Colonelkillabee]

Nah, i think it was from this post by Mary Kirby.

 

 http://forum.bioware...gest/?bioware=1

Fair enough. Even so, Fiona isn't some decrepit old lady.

[The Hierophant]

I just read it and noticed the warnings Allan posted. What did occur after the post?

He erased the majority of the posts that were mostly bickering, and personal attacks. Imagine the typical pro, and anti elf arguments around here but cranked up to eleven.

[The Hierophant]

Fair enough. Even so, Fiona isn't some decrepit old lady.

She got good genes.

 

*fixed*

[sniper_arrow]

He erased the majority of the posts that were mostly bickering, and personal attacks. Imagine the typical pro, and anti elf arguments around here but cranked up to eleven.

 

Thanks. So like, almost every other thread in a minimal sense.

[sniper_arrow]

As I said, the ones who are truly helpless, the ones being forced to stay, who are willingly collaborating with the enslavement of their fellow mages to save their own hides, those I sympathize for.

 

Maybe except the one I highlighted. I would secretly monitor them, just in case.

[Iakus]

Maybe except the one I highlighted. I would secretly monitor them, just in case.

Yeah, I fixed that, I mean those being forced to remain by willing collaborators of Tevinter or their useful Idiots

 

 

And those are the ones who need saving, which I will do. I also won't conscript them, which still involves punishing the innocent.

I'd save everyone if I can, but given the choice, I'd rather have allies I can trust.  Or at least consistent ones.

[Xilizhra]

I'd save everyone if I can, but given the choice, I'd rather have allies I can trust.  Or at least consistent ones.

Well, at the time of the decision, I would see no real reason to trust the templars.

[Steelcan]

Well, at the time of the decision, I would see no real reason to trust the templars.

iirc you don't go to Therinfal because you trust them, you go there to investigate why they are acting so erratically and try to force the Lord Seeker into an alliance.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Well, at the time of the decision, I would see no real reason to trust the templars.

Not to mention you are much more likely to get the support and trust of the mages by helping them escape slavery than you know what would have happened if you THREATENED the templars.

 

 

Before you ask, remember that the original, intended method of getting the aid of the templars was getting the orlesian nobility to THREATEN the templars into helping you. What exactly do you think would happen with templars who are only helping you because you threatened them into helping you?

 

I'd rather have grateful mages on my side than pissed templars

[MisterJB]

Not to mention you are much more likely to get the support and trust of the mages by helping them escape slavery than you know what would have happened if you THREATENED the templars.

 

 

Before you ask, remember that the original, intended method of getting the aid of the templars was getting the orlesian nobility to THREATEN the templars into helping you. What exactly do you think would happen with templars who are only helping you because you threatened them into helping you?

 

I'd rather have grateful mages on my side than pissed templars

Gratitude is flimsy and unreliable at best. In order for people to cooperate with you, they need to have something to lose.

The mages don't join the Inquisition because they are grateful. They do it because they have no other options.

 

 

Which does make them a better option than Templars if what you are looking for is a group that can't act against you.
 

[MisterJB]

It really doesn't matter what they expected or did not expect. What matters is the Herald's ethics.

Nimbly dodged. But the facts remain, as it is, no one in Southern Thedas, which includes the Herald, has any obligation, moral or otherwise, to assist the mages.

[Qun00]

The only thing Vivienne has ever been right about is that Fiona's rebellion was untimely, to say the least.

[Xilizhra]

Nimbly dodged. But the facts remain, as it is, no one in Southern Thedas, which includes the Herald, has any obligation, moral or otherwise, to assist the mages.

I suppose that's where we're destined to disagree about morality.

[sniper_arrow]

Not to mention you are much more likely to get the support and trust of the mages by helping them escape slavery than you know what would have happened if you THREATENED the templars.

 

Before you ask, remember that the original, intended method of getting the aid of the templars was getting the orlesian nobility to THREATEN the templars into helping you. What exactly do you think would happen with templars who are only helping you because you threatened them into helping you?

 

I'd rather have grateful mages on my side than pissed templars

 

Pissed templars? Where did you get that idea?

 

The templars helped you eventually after being threatened by the nobles is because they found out the truth about Envy and Denam, along with red lyrium.

[sniper_arrow]

The only thing Vivienne has ever been right about is that Fiona's rebellion was untimely, to say the least.

 

Not to mention not very well planned.

[MisterJB]

One can't help but appreciate a rebellion that strives towards breaking the rules of society(with thousands of casualties in the process) and then cries foul when the very rules they were trying to break no longer protect them.

[Vit246]

Nimbly dodged. But the facts remain, as it is, no one in Southern Thedas, which includes the Herald, has any obligation, moral or otherwise, to assist the mages.

 

Then the mages might as well have no obligation to not join Tevinter and give the middle finger to the Southern Thedas that does not care about addressing their legitimate grievances. Funny how people get so indignant about mages throwing in their lot with the only relatively mage-friendly nation, even though it is tevinter.

Modifié par Vit246, 30 mars 2016 - 05:31 .

[Xilizhra]

One can't help but appreciate a rebellion that strives towards breaking the rules of society(with thousands of casualties in the process) and then cries foul when the very rules they were trying to break no longer protect them.

Hey, none of my characters have ever been part of the mage rebellion.