The only thing Vivienne has ever been right about is that Fiona's rebellion was untimely, to say the least.
Fiona's rebellion had no obligation to accept a collective guilt by association and continue to suffer indignities in silence for a longer period of time just because of some loud apostate somewhere in the world. Vivienne always mentions the casualties but always omits the part where the Circle was targeted for extermination for the actions of an outsider.
One can't help but appreciate a rebellion that strives towards breaking the rules of society(with thousands of casualties in the process) and then cries foul when the very rules they were trying to break no longer protect them.
Oh come now. The rules were hardly protecting them for years and years by the time they rebelled. Thats why they rebelled.
Oh come now. The rules were hardly protecting them for years and years by the time they rebelled. Thats why they rebelled.
they rebelled because Fiona forced them to. The rebellion only started because Fiona put a gun to the heads of the mage leaders and even then it was only decided by one vote.
they rebelled because Fiona forced them to. The rebellion only started because Fiona put a gun to the heads of the mage leaders and even then it was only decided by one vote.
That's disingenuous. With the Isolationists and Lucrosians too small to count for much, and the Libertarians and Loyalists obviously split, the Aequitarian vote was literally the only one that counted.
I still don't know why they voted to go against the Chantry right at the moment when Seekers and templars decided to rebel and go on a witch hunt because the Divine is trying to push for mages reform.
We went from "f*** the divine!" to DAI "Well now I suppose we'll see what the next Divine will choose to do."
Facepalm if Vivienne is Divine and Fiona said "F*** Justinia."
I still don't know why they voted to go against the Chantry right at the moment when Seekers and templars decided to rebel and go on a witch hunt because the Divine is trying to push for mages reform.
We went from "f*** the divine!" to DAI "Well now I suppose we'll see what the next Divine will choose to do."
Facepalm if Vivienne is Divine and Fiona said "F*** Justinia."
I forgot the details in the book, but I think they felt that the Chantry wouldn't help them in the long run. Elthina, who neither sided either group, was one example.
That's disingenuous. With the Isolationists and Lucrosians too small to count for much, and the Libertarians and Loyalists obviously split, the Aequitarian vote was literally the only one that counted.
regardless it was a choice made under duress brought about by Fiona
Because she kicked off a battle that saw the majority of enchanters put into that position to begin with as I recall.regardless it was a choice made under duress brought about by Fiona
Because she kicked off a battle that saw the majority of enchanters put into that position to begin with as I recall.
If she wasn't so mentally feeble I'd almost think she had a plan or something... But the actual rebellion itself disproves that.
That's the thing. It wasn't shown to us what her plan was or if she had any plans at all. If there was, it was most likely appealing to Alistair to help them (since he's her son) and/or Anora.
I can't seem to find any video that isn't about seducing her :/
I couldn't find any fics about Fiona/Inquisitor but I did find these
http://archiveofouro...g/works/5803825
http://archiveofouro...s*s*Fiona/works
I couldn't find any fics about Fiona/Inquisitor but I did find these
You should give those colonel, I don't find demented elves that are twice my actual age attractive.
You should give those colonel, I don't find demented elves that are twice my actual age attractive.
I think they'll change your mind...
Btw, for some reason when looking for these, I found a fair amount of Felix Alexius/Carver Hawke fics. What a random pairing 
I think they'll change your mind...
Btw, for some reason when looking for these, I found a fair amount of Felix Alexius/Carver Hawke fics. What a random pairing
Alexius/Carver, they don't even meet!
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I agree...very random.
Alexius/Carver, they don't even meet!
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I agree...very random.
It's not even papa G Alexius, it's Felix, the blighted son.
It's not even papa G Alexius, it's Felix, the blighted son.
And folks wonder why I WRITE smut and don't read it.
iirc you don't go to Therinfal because you trust them, you go there to investigate why they are acting so erratically and try to force the Lord Seeker into an alliance.
Yup. You go with an alliance of ten noble houses Josephine and Leliana put together to force a face-to-face meeting.
Not to mention you are much more likely to get the support and trust of the mages by helping them escape slavery than you know what would have happened if you THREATENED the templars.
Until the next time things get tough for the mages and they scamper for the nearest magister who'll take them in.
The templars helped you eventually after being threatened by the nobles is because they found out the truth about Envy and Denam, along with red lyrium.
Whereas Fiona will attack you even after learning about the Venatori and Corypheus and not being force-fed red lyrium
Until the next time things get tough for the mages and they scamper for the nearest magister who'll take them in.
Best to bolster the College, then, so that it doesn't happen again. Shame that Vichienne wishes to undermine it.
That's disingenuous. With the Isolationists and Lucrosians too small to count for much, and the Libertarians and Loyalists obviously split, the Aequitarian vote was literally the only one that counted.
Wasn't this after Fiona hijacked the meeting at White Spire and got half the First Enchanters killed?
And, you know, wrecked any chance of real reform that Justinia wanted to implement?
Wasn't this after Fiona hijacked the meeting at White Spire and got half the First Enchanters killed?
And, you know, wrecked any chance of real reform that Justinia wanted to implement?
<.<
I must agree with that.
This is weird.
We never agree.
Wasn't this after Fiona hijacked the meeting at White Spire and got half the First Enchanters killed?
And, you know, wrecked any chance of real reform that Justinia wanted to implement?
It all boils down to Lambert's fault in the end, alas.
Given the templar path involves protecting people from being turned into monsters from red lyrium I'd say you are protecting people either way.
Though I will say Champions of the Just involves people being unwittingly turned to serve the villains while Fiona willingly sells out her people, who are foolish enough to go along with it.
Whereas Fiona will attack you even after learning about the Venatori and Corypheus and not being force-fed red lyrium
Apart from Weekes comment, the guide outright saying the mages get brainwashed if you side with the templars, the ritual in the Invesitigate Redcliffe castle, the fact that the rebel mages in the templar version of IYHSB look the same type of brainwashed that the warden mages do (seriously, use tactical cam and look at their faces and tell me they aren't infected in some way)
But apparently you'd rather ignore facts
Wasn't this after Fiona hijacked the meeting at White Spire and got half the First Enchanters killed?
And, you know, wrecked any chance of real reform that Justinia wanted to implement?
Wasn't this after the templars decided to place blanket restrictions on EVERY circle in Thedas and turn them into literal prisons because one of the knight commanders was a insane bigot who either tried to commit or actually commited genocide on a group of innocent mages for something they didn't do and the mages were rightly angry about this.
Considering how even after the templars decided to kill the mages the vote at the end of Asunder was still split 50/50 pretty much proves that had Fiona's original vote gone through, it likely would have failed as the only reason the other fraternities supported independence was because they had enough of the templars screwing them over.
Not to mention Lambert pretty much gloats how he finally has an excuse to kill mages, pretty much proving he was just a bigot looking for an excuse like Meredith.
Apart from Weekes comment, the guide outright saying the mages get brainwashed if you side with the templars, the ritual in the Invesitigate Redcliffe castle, the fact that the rebel mages in the templar version of IYHSB look the same type of brainwashed that the warden mages do (seriously, use tactical cam and look at their faces and tell me they aren't infected in some way)
But apparently you'd rather ignore facts
Find that codex yet?
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