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I think the goal was to try and make all of them grey as much as they could at least before I got the game I heard quite a few praises about the factions being less clear cut and more grey. Though for me all that really does is make me go 'huh well everyone's an a**hole then I guess'
Though maybe it's because I pay little attention to the factions I've yet to find the shady stuff with the minutemen. Like what is going one with them currently in game not what happened before you showed up.
I think it ended up being more like the BOS and the Institute are a**holes, who kill innocents, but have enough resources and power to survive and be a force that can change the Commonwealth, and the RR and MM are well-meaning, but they are weak, and will fall apart at any moment. Neither of the latter two factions can really change the situation, because their numbers are limited, and their people poorly trained in combat.
In the end, it doesn't matter, and Bethesda will choose their canon for the next game regardless of your choices. That I don't like.
Considering I kind of try to make the same character for their games I don't mind too much on that end. Even if Cupcake only really fits in New Vegas.
Didn't they do something with the canon in the DLC that just came out? I haven't played it yet myself but I have heard some speculation that someone you can kill in FO3 is the antagonistic in the DLC they released recently.
I haven't played it yet, I'm gonna wait for a heavily discounted game of the year edition with all the DLCs in it. I know that a companion that could die in 3 was the Elder of the BOS between 3 and 4.
I got talked into getting the season pass when it was still 30$. When I find some dang screws and can give my weapons full stocks I'll poke around the DLC and check things out for myself.
Maybe Bethesda tries to make factions more grey and you do hear people like Father trying to explain why they are the good faction there- but after finding some more information it's just nope you are not. Other people can feel differently, but for me it's quite clear division of 2 white and 2 black factions even if there is bit of shades grey mixed in. Not in Minutemen though, they are all colonial cinnamon rolls- well the one's who didn't leave Minutemen at least.
I actually got spoiled a bit by that spoiler about Synths. It's okay though, just shows that there is still tons for me to find out even if I feel I have completed the game with my main character. That's quite interesting information anyways! And I do agree that it's Railroad's downfall a bit and I'd love if I could influence them a bit in terms of how they operate- but overall I think they are still good guys trying their best for others.
Haha they are colonial cinnamon rolls, the only remotely bad thing they do is that they cannot stop Mama Murphy from running exclusively on drugs. She even had a secret stash in their old base.
The problem with the Institute is that some of their actions make absolutely no sense, other than making them more evil.
Whoops. If you mean info on who is a synth, in two cases you have to outright murder them to discover that. I firmly believe wikia contributors at one point started killing everyone and checking for the synth component to get that info.
I heard you could check if someone was a synth if you have the awareness perk I think? The energy resistance should be higher if the person is a snyth. Not sure how accurate that is though.
It does work, and people use it to monitor for spies in settlements, so you can take them out, before they destroy everything. After getting to 19 settlements though, I just couldn't keep track, so I didn't bother getting and testing the ability.
Haha they are colonial cinnamon rolls, the only remotely bad thing they do is that they cannot stop Mama Murphy from running exclusively on drugs. She even had a secret stash in their old base.
The problem with the Institute is that some of their actions make absolutely no sense, other than making them more evil.
Whoops. If you mean info on who is a synth, in two cases you have to outright murder them to discover that. I firmly believe wikia contributors at one point started killing everyone and checking for the synth component to get that info.
Yep I meant that. Huh I thought I was missing some story parts, but at least that info gives interesting addition to their characters. So it was nice to found out ^^
I haven't even actually really finished my first playthrough yet, because I'm so frustrating by the way I've boxed myself into a corner as a quadruple agent. The only faction I don't feel like I'm actually deceiving is the Minutemen, which is probably part of the reason I'm so enthusiastic about them.
I keep restarting my playthroughs trying to find a build I like, only to get a little fatigued with micromanaging settlements, resource collecting and replaying the same bits of story over and over.
I really should just remember to focus on the main quest and that everything else is optional. 
To be honest though, I think the major sticking point against it is that I just feel less invested in FO4 than I was in FNV. While I like Bethesda's work, it does seem to me that Obsidian often do far better at presenting the consequences of our actions in game, how morally grey the choices could be, as well as really allow us the freedom to really get involved with and engage in cross-factional dynamics from time to time.
Still, at least in FO4 we can actually romance the companions, rather than forced to endure shipteases that go nowhere like in FNV. And since Cait is basically Cass, I can't help but give FO4 bonus points for finally letting me romance her... or at least her Irish Doppleganger.
Just gonna throw this out there... perhaps this thread should be renamed to refer to Fallout 4? That's really the only topic of discussion here XD. The vent thread is more of the general chit-chat place anyway, in addition to the occasional venting.
Just gonna throw this out there... perhaps this thread should be renamed to refer to Fallout 4? That's really the only topic of discussion here XD. The vent thread is more of the general chit-chat place anyway, in addition to the occasional venting.
Alternatively, we might consider making a Fallout thread. I know there are a lot of us playing it, and that way we could share screenshots and debate about whether or not we like the Brotherhood of Steel. I know Dean might like that.
edit: Or maybe a general gaming thread. I'm not really sure how many little sections we want to divide up into.
I guess Fallout is just topic people are interested in talking right now and this thread will likely travel to other places.Though I guess Fallout thread would do well on it's own as well 
I know that I'm still playing the game almost daily at least 
... When I'm ready to get back into Fallout I'll be coming back here to mine for tips and strategies and tactics and stuff.
Well i for one am looking forward to the overhaul of the Survival Mode. Will be in beta on Steam this coming week. Wuhu!
It's not that I think there's a problem with Fallout discussion in a general thread at all, I just thought we might enjoy a thread dedicated to it, since I know a few people in this group who gravitate toward to it.
In any case, we now have a general discussion thread and general gaming thread, which is good.
Not FO4 related but semi gaming related. Just installed my first mod in a game in ages not all that long ago, and even though it's a pretty simple mod I feel far too proud of myself for not screwing things up when installing it.
Unrelated note just got introduced to this, given the ever growing hole in my backyard most of my family found it pretty amusing.
^ Appropriate, given that mods are often a hole that is difficult to climb out of once you start. It's even worse if you start making them yourself. "Oooh can I change this thing? Or this? What about this?!" I have started and abandoned so many plays because I get distracted by modding.
^ Appropriate, given that mods are often a hole that is difficult to climb out of once you start. It's even worse if you start making them yourself. "Oooh can I change this thing? Or this? What about this?!" I have started and abandoned so many plays because I get distracted by modding.
I have hit that stage myself. I put off continuing one of my characters because I kept messing around with hair meshes. Well, the same one. For two weeks. I kept telling myself to stop, leave it alone, it works just fine, you don't need to tweak it. Yeah, that didn't work. Spent a lot of time on Friday and Saturday making more tweaks to it before I was finally satisfied enough to use it in game. I'm sure I'll find something else to try and mod before this week is over.
I intend to drink tonight. The question becomes, "will I post under the influence?" 
I intend to drink tonight. The question becomes, "will I post under the influence?"
obviously
I think the more pertinent question is "What will you post under the influence?" My hope is "all your unfiltered thoughts about threads in the MEA forum in said threads in the MEA forum." That might lead to you being banned, though.
I think the more pertinent question is "What will you post under the influence?" My hope is "all your unfiltered thoughts about threads in the MEA forum in said threads in the MEA forum." That might lead to you being banned, though.
But when I'm tipsy, the best I can really do is, "this thread is dumb."
Though doing that in every single thread I dislike does have some appeal. 
But when I'm tipsy, the best I can really do is, "this thread is dumb."
Though doing that in every single thread I dislike does have some appeal.
I guess it's true what they say about "In vino veritas", because most of those threads are dumb.
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