Awesome! Wonder Woman and Batman are my favourites aswell. I also wanted to squee when Wonder Woman showed up, but my friends would have made fun of me. It is not fair beeing a man, sometimes. Glad she enjoyed the movie and is gushing about it. After all it is for the fans these movies get made, or it should be atleast.
I just saw it a 3rd time, so now i am done with it until the Blu-ray release, which will have a Directors Cut on it. 3 hours of R-rated awesomeness.
Men can squee too, let it out man!
She also bought this song
off iTunes as soon as we left the cinema. Told you she has it bad and so do I. I've listened to it a few times today aha. Really cool soundtrack to that movie. Was pretty nifty in 3D.
She was telling me that a Wonder Woman movie is coming out in the summer of next year. She'll camp for it if she has too.
This liquor talk reminds me I need to pick up more sake, getting lower on mine that I would like. No idea where it's going either I don't use it that often.
Yay! Someone else likes it. I feel alone on most forums, unless it is a DC forum. Atleast the movie has a decent audience score and doing good numbers at the box office. I feel like there is an agenda against this movie. Not like a conspiracy, but there are so many ANTI BVS articles popping up everywhere, and i mean everywhere. Even Polygon and IGN are posting them. Never seen them do that with any Marvel movies. It is so weird.
Also i think some people are pissed because it has a more bleak outlook than what we are used to with these heroes, but i feel it is the right tone for the film leading into Justice League which can be lighter in tone. Just my opinion there. Still i am glad you liked it! I hope this movie and the DCEU can overcome and push out many more movies. Looking forward to Wonder Woman now! Wuhu!
Yeah what is up with it? If it's DC it's automatically sh*t, unless you're a fan lol.
I'm really excited for the upcoming Suicide Squad movie and that's been thrown under a bus before its even released.
So, the black chick romance thread wasn't here when I logged back in. I did call that one tho lulz. Just curious to how that ended up, sure were a lot of insults being flung around in the last few pages aha.
So, the black chick romance thread wasn't here when I logged back in. I did call that one tho lulz. Just curious to how that ended up, sure were a lot of insults being flung around in the last few pages aha.
Yeah what the hell is going on in that place? There was another thread with the same bitching and arguing..
They should change it from Andromeda to Jerry Springer tbh
Yeah what the hell is going on in that place? There was another thread with the same bitching and arguing..
They should change it from Andromeda to Jerry Springer tbh
Those alts are also very transparent aha, when you see them rolled out you know what's gonna happen next. Dat internet drama TBH xD
She also bought this song off iTunes as soon as we left the cinema. Told you she has it bad and so do I. I've listened to it a few times today aha. Really cool soundtrack to that movie. Was pretty nifty in 3D.
She was telling me that a Wonder Woman movie is coming out in the summer of next year. She'll camp for it if she has too.
I'll squee when the Wonder Woman movie comes out! 70 years since the character was created, she is part of the main cast of DC and she never had a live action movie. Finally it is happening. Also the soundtrack was fracking amazing, its on repeat here most of the time.
Yeah what is up with it? If it's DC it's automatically sh*t, unless you're a fan lol.
I'm really excited for the upcoming Suicide Squad movie and that's been thrown under a bus before its even released.
Well the Cristopher Nolan movies got alot of praise, but it is Batman after all. Batman is the only DC hero that sells on the big screen so far, and to some degree Superman.
I am not sure why people hate on DC live action movies, their animated DC universe gets praised all the time. Maybe the tone is too dark? Maybe people are just used to the Marvel movie formula by now? Not sure. Still i am looking forward to Suicide Squad, looks awesome.
On a whim I went and checked my page and noticed I had a visit from a mod earlier this month, no warning points but makes me curious what I did to get a look from one of them.
On a whim I went and checked my page and noticed I had a visit from a mod earlier this month, no warning points but makes me curious what I did to get a look from one of them.
Same thing happened to me. I don't think I said or did anything particularly douchey that day, but who knows?
I am not sure why people hate on DC live action movies, their animated DC universe gets praised all the time. Maybe the tone is too dark? Maybe people are just used to the Marvel movie formula by now? Not sure. Still i am looking forward to Suicide Squad, looks awesome.
I think the difference is that Marvel went about it the right way, by introducing and building up their universe slowly, giving the audience enough time to really be immersed into it without throwing us into the deep end.
But to DC's credit, the Arrow-verse went in the same direction, so when they introduced the Flash, then opened up the world further with Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl, it didn't feel so jarring for the viewers or like we needed to do a ton of required reading to know all these characters.
I actually enjoyed Man of Steel overall because I liked the idea of a more realistic take on Superman, not ignoring the issue of hero insurance when it comes to all the destruction that always happens in his tales, as well as showing us how much it breaks him to be forced to take a life, in order to protect more people.
That being said, it had problems, when it came to the motivations of a lot of it's characters.
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Pa Kent came across as pretty inconsistent at times. I think they wanted to show him as a concerned father who veered between wanting to protect his son and keep his powers secret, and wanting him to grow into his own man and use his powers for good?
The Kryptonians rarely did anything sensible at all in the film either. I think the movie was trying to paint them as being so rigidly set into their caste system and thinking, that they weren't able to ever look outside of the box for solutions.
This could explain why their leaders were doing trials when their planet was seconds from blowing up, because that's all the bureaucrats in charge knew how to do. As well as why Zod treats everything as a military matter (something he alludes to near the end of the film) and instigates both the coup on Krypton, as well as try to force Supes into line rather than just asking for his help?
This is why Jor-El believed his son to be so important. As a natural birth, Superman wasn't genetically pre-programmed to be anything at all... so he alone had the freedom to chose his path and the course it would take. In comparison, the other Kryptonians are railroaded down their paths and compelled to remain on track, even if they can see it will lead them off a cliff.
It's actually a brilliant examination of extreme eugenics when you think about it, so if that's what they were indeed going for, I wish they'd just had Jor-El say more clearly because it would have removed a lot of problems relating to the Kryptonians.
But to go back to the original point you made, I think that DC jumped the gun and tried to set up their cinematic with too much, too soon. It should have been obvious that introducing too many characters, plot-threads into a single narrative can kill a movie (as we saw in Spiderman 3 and Amazing Spiderman 2) because it's information overload for the audience.
Dawn of Justice should have been the movie after Batman versus Superman.
We would have had the BvS movie that dealt with those two characters coming into conflict, then DoJ could have been the film where they've managed to set their difference aside, teamed up with Wonder Woman to all deal with a threat to the world, thus making the emergence of the Justice League seem more credible.
It'd have given more time to BvS allowing us to build a better foundation for which they'd have legitimate reasons to fight, as well as give DoJ more time to deal with Wonder Woman and open up the universe more to set up the League.
For me, the problem with the DC movies comes down mostly to three things: First, they always seem to be reacting excessively to Marvel, either by imitating them or by trying to go in the extreme opposite direction. "Well, Iron Man was witty and centered around a highly charismatic star, so we'll try to do that with Green Lantern." "Marvel's movies tend not to be super serious, so we'll go ultra-grimdark with Man of Steel." I enjoyed that style with Nolan's Batman movies, but it just didn't click for me with Man of Steel, and I suspect that was true for a lot of audiences.
Second, the screenwriting in these films just doesn't work at all. After I watched Man of Steel, my brother asked me "So what did you think of Henry Cavill as Superman?" My answer was, "I don't know." He's barely given the opportunity to give a performance at all, because all he's asked to do in the film is fight and react to expositional dialogue about how great his destiny is. The story is also littered with MacGuffin-y plot devices: The codex, the World Engine, the Phantom Drive, etc. There's just too much non-character-driven stuff going on in the movie.
Third, I'm just not a fan of Zack Snyder at all; his name on anything is pretty much radioactive to me. Watchmen is supposed to be a generally realistic take on how the whole notion of super heroes would work in the actual world, while Superman is about as larger-than-life as you can get. So Snyder goes with a heightened, ultra-stylized aesthetic for Watchmen and a quasi-documentary approach for Man of Steel. The choices he makes are too often exactly the opposite of the ones he should make.
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