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[Heimdal]

Like so many of you I was not satisfied with the ending to ME3. Not only was it a bad ending on its own but it more or less ruined the franchise. With ME and ME2 you got a definitive ending, the same wether you played as a renegade or a paragon. With ME3 you got 4 (control, destroy, synthesis and refuse) wich makes it REALLY hard for Bioware to move the franchise forward. Wich ending is canon? Do people live in a destroyed galaxy or do they live "happy" like some kind of man/machine hybrid? It's more or less impossible for Bioware to keep the franchise in the Milky Way unless they want to flat out declare one of the endings as canon and build it from there. Hence: Move the franchise to Andromeda.

This is a mistake. ME needs to stay in the Milky Way. The galaxy is just as an imprtant character in the game as Sheperd, Liara and Tali. Imagine if they made a Star Wars movie but decided to move the entire plot away from this particular galaxy far, far away and instead have it take place in a completely new galaxy with a new backstory and new characters. It just wouldn't be Star Wars. Same with Mass Effect. That we won't be able to go to places like Palaven, Tuchanka and the Citadel in this new ME just feels... wrong. 

To me the only option is this: Retcon the ending of ME3. I think a lot of players/buyers would understand if Bioware explained that they had to do this in order for the franchise to stay alive. Better to change the ending than to not have any new ME games. Maybe Andromeda will be a great game but to me it won't be a ME-game. ME belongs in the Milky Way.

[malloc]

Sick post bro.

[Creator Limbs]

They literally can't stay in the Milky Way without pissing off the entire fanbase.

 

It's actually really hilarious.

[Geth Supremacy]

They literally can't stay in the Milky Way without pissing off the entire fanbase.

 

It's actually really hilarious.

 

Having a get out of jail free card that was "interesting" if nothing else and choosing to spit in an open hand makes this whole situation even better. 

 

Limbs is right.  They literally cannot stay in the Milky Way lol....We are destined for Andramada.

[rossler]

Mass Effect moving to Andromeda after being in the Milky Way for 3 games, is no different than 24 setting its story in LA for 6 seasons, then moving to DC for the 7th and NY for the 8th. It's the same thing, just a different setting.

[Heimdal]

I don't know. It all depends on how you present stuff. If I was given the option to not have my destroy, control etc- ending be canon BUT get new games within the ME-universe Or have all endings be canon (somehow) and get games with a ME-label but in a completely new setting I would chose the first option.

 

Sometimes it fells like this is exactly what Casey Hudson and Mack Walters wanted when they wrote the ending to ME3. they wanted to stop the franchise. Make it impossible to move it forward.

[CrutchCricket]

This is a mistake. ME needs to stay in the Milky Way. The galaxy is just as an imprtant character in the game as Sheperd, Liara and Tali.

"The galaxy" is not a character. it's a setting. Please google relevant terms.
 

To me the only option is this: Retcon the ending of ME3. I think a lot of players/buyers would understand if Bioware explained that they had to do this in order for the franchise to stay alive. Better to change the ending than to not have any new ME games. Maybe Andromeda will be a great game but to me it won't be a ME-game. ME belongs in the Milky Way.

No.

[ArcadiaGrey]

The original Mass Effect trilogy is over and done with.  I for one welcome a new game in a new setting, but with an established lore and races that we're familiar with.  I think it's a great idea.

 

People really can't put Shepard to bed can they??  Walk away people, walk away.  The best stories, movies and tv shows are usually great because they know when to quit, instead of going on and on and on and flogging a dead horse.  

 

Besides, when past decisions are respected by the game (most of the time anyways) it creates greater and greater complexities going forward.  Drawing a line under everything and starting afresh prevents BioWare's creativity from being shackled to 10 year old decisions.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

" Another day, another ME3 ending thread "

[Heimdal]

Mass Effect moving to Andromeda after being in the Milky Way for 3 games, is no different than 24 setting its story in LA for 6 seasons, then moving to DC for the 7th and NY for the 8th. It's the same thing, just a different setting.

I disagree. As I said: the setting is such a huge part of what makes Mass Effect Mass Effect. New galaxy with new aliens and new backstory? Great! But to me that feels more like an entirely new franchise...

[Mordokai]

You're not in Kansas Milky Way anymore, Dorothy.

[countofhell]

Like so many of you I was not satisfied with the ending to ME3. Not only was it a bad ending on its own but it more or less ruined the franchise. With ME and ME2 you got a definitive ending, the same wether you played as a renegade or a paragon. With ME3 you got 4 (control, destroy, synthesis and refuse) wich makes it REALLY hard for Bioware to move the franchise forward. Wich ending is canon? Do people live in a destroyed galaxy or do they live "happy" like some kind of man/machine hybrid? It's more or less impossible for Bioware to keep the franchise in the Milky Way unless they want to flat out declare one of the endings as canon and build it from there. Hence: Move the franchise to Andromeda.

This is a mistake. ME needs to stay in the Milky Way. The galaxy is just as an imprtant character in the game as Sheperd, Liara and Tali. Imagine if they made a Star Wars movie but decided to move the entire plot away from this particular galaxy far, far away and instead have it take place in a completely new galaxy with a new backstory and new characters. It just wouldn't be Star Wars. Same with Mass Effect. That we won't be able to go to places like Palaven, Tuchanka and the Citadel in this new ME just feels... wrong. 

To me the only option is this: Retcon the ending of ME3. I think a lot of players/buyers would understand if Bioware explained that they had to do this in order for the franchise to stay alive. Better to change the ending than to not have any new ME games. Maybe Andromeda will be a great game but to me it won't be a ME-game. ME belongs in the Milky Way.

Anyway Milky Way is exactly twice as massive as Andromeda. +1 reason to not go anywhere else.

[Armass81]

Would love to see more of the Milky Way too but that ship has kinda sailed, friend.

[Hadeedak]

Endings aside, Schrodinger's quarians, rachni, geth and krogans make staying in the Milky Way problematic.

 

And yes, I'd rather not have everything retconned. I like a brand new, lemony fresh galaxy.

[Biotic Apostate]

Anyway Milky Way is exactly twice as massive as Andromeda. +1 reason to not go anywhere else.

Nope

http://www.space.com...an-thought.html

"This brings the Milky Way's size up to that of Andromeda. The Milky Way's small radius in comparison to Andromeda's larger radius has always puzzled astronomers, because the two galaxies have roughly the same mass."

 

They are, according to latest findings, roughly the same size. And ME: Andromeda is not going to suddenly change locale, because some people can't let it go. We're probably never going back. People either have to accept it or move on to another sci-fi series.

[General TSAR]

BioWare screwed up so hard in ME3 that they had to create a spin off sequel in another galaxy. 

 

Ha!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Anyway Milky Way is exactly twice as massive as Andromeda. +1 reason to not go anywhere else.

No it isn't. Andromeda is both larger and more massive than the Milky Way. 

[Lyrandori]

You're about, hum... I'd say four years too late to give this suggestion to BioWare.

[Draining Dragon]

No, it doesn't. It can't, really, unless Bioware wants to retcon the entire ending.

 

Also, I'm waiting for Heimdall to post in this thread and challenge OP to a duel for the honor of his name.

[rossler]

I disagree. As I said: the setting is such a huge part of what makes Mass Effect Mass Effect. New galaxy with new aliens and new backstory? Great! But to me that feels more like an entirely new franchise...

 

See Yanick Roy's example:

 

"If you had three games centered around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another," he continued.

 

"You likely would have to recognise how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I'm trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story."

 

Questioned as to whether the next Mass Effect game could still feature the same galaxy, the same alien races, and honour the series' existing lore and history, Roy suggested it would.

 

Source

[Hanako Ikezawa]

See Yanick Roy's example:

 

"If you had three games centered around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another," he continued.

 

"You likely would have to recognise how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I'm trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story."

 

Questioned as to whether the next Mass Effect game could still feature the same galaxy, the same alien races, and honour the series' existing lore and history, Roy suggested it would.

 

Source

That is still a laughably bad analogy.

[Heimdall]

For a moment, I thought someone had stolen my identity 

 

No, it doesn't. It can't, really, unless Bioware wants to retcon the entire ending.

 

Also, I'm waiting for Heimdall to post in this thread and challenge OP to a duel for the honor of his name.

Ahem,

 

 

 

[iM3GTR]

In the words of a certain Feros security guard, "You're a bit late, aren't you?"

Hopefully Bioware will finish Andromeda and focus on a completely different series before they do any more damage to the franchise (I'm not saying Andromeda will be bad, I just think they should make something else now).

However it's much easier to expand on a previous, well known franchise, and EA are in charge, so they'll probably be unwilling to do anything risky (reminds me of Marge Simpson, "I don't like the idea of high risk ventures. They sound a bit risky.").

[Hanako Ikezawa]

In the words of a certain Feros security guard, "You're a bit late, aren't you?"

Arcelia, please. 

[Heimdal]

See Yanick Roy's example:

 

"If you had three games centered around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another," he continued.

 

"You likely would have to recognise how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I'm trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story."

 

Questioned as to whether the next Mass Effect game could still feature the same galaxy, the same alien races, and honour the series' existing lore and history, Roy suggested it would.

 

Source

 

Yeah... Like you make 3 awesome movies about Indiana Jones set during WW2 and then you make a 4th set in the 50's but it still feels like it's connected to the original trilogy somehow? I kid.

I just mean they created this awesome galaxy with Asari, turians, Elcor, Krogans, the Citadel, Omega etc and now they are going to throw all that away.

 

And to Heimdall: