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[Commander Rpg]

The hell are you talking about? 

 

Use your intellect and find out.

 

S/he's found a round about way of bitching about the end.  Again.  You should know better than this Killroy.

"You will pay the price for your lack of vision." (cit.)

 

I'm not sure if that's it. If anything he's arguing that the franchise should have stayed in the Milky Way galaxy no matter what. And for some reason he thinks my ass is on the line.

"Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if one blind person guides another, both will fall into a pit." (cit.)

 

No, he/she just doesn't know the answer or at the very best, just won't answer, your question.  Comes up with a snarky response, puts it out there.  Hoping that we'll take the bait and run through one more time.  Just for him/her.

 

EDIT :  In the end it all comes down to the same thing.  The end of ME3.  Stick a fork in it, its as done as Shepard.

I know everything I need to know, but I won't explain it to mentally armored people because it would be a loss of my time.

 

A - Well this is true isn't it? There are multiple endings that have multiple mutually exclusive results to them. None of the endings are compatible with any other ending because of the mutually exclusive aspects to each ending. So how do you write a story within this soup of conflicting endings? Leaving the galaxy removes you from the soup which is in fact a 'fresh start.'

 

B - If this is true why is that a problem? If you assume that it is true this means people WANT to move on why is that a bad thing?

 

C - This is actually proven to be demonstrably false. They do know how to continue the series either make a canon ending or move outside the galaxy. Bioware stated they have zero intention of invalidating the choices made in the first trilogy by saying nope you didn't make those choices sorry these are what actually happened, so they moved settings. This definitively shows they know how to continue the series. Which is very different from continuing the series in the manner you wished they had done so. Just because you don't LIKE their solution doesn't actually mean they don't know how to continue the series. It is plain to see they do know just not in a way you want or like. Boo hoo for you.

 

What i find interesting is your grasp the problems with the situation but it seems that because Bioware was responsible for creating those problems in the first place that it invalidates their solutions? Is that because you want them to make ME3b and "fix" the endings? The endings are FACT there are what they are. In my opinion Bioware dropped the ball and created bad endings SO FRAKING WHAT? Let it go. Time to move on. All they can do now is move past this and learn from their mistake.

 

https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU?t=59s

A - It's partially true, and if history and common sense have taught me well, a partial truth is a complete lie.

B - It might be true or not, but it's so unusual when supposedly done by Fartware

C - Get a grip, take a deep breath and evaluate. This is the real deal, they've failed to continue with intellectual honesty and they're offering you a convenient excuse to buy a product.

 

Sadly the donkeys here didn't understand, but in truth I tell you I don't care at all if the game is set in Andromeda or in Duckberg, what displeases me is the crookedness they behaved with to come to this decision.

[Chealec]

Sadly the donkeys here didn't understand, but in truth I tell you I don't care at all if the game is set in Andromeda or in Duckberg, what displeases me is the crookedness they behaved with to come to this decision.

 

Psssst ... it's a game - nobody really cares that much.

[Commander Rpg]

Psssst ... it's a game - nobody really cares that much.

It's money dude, it's money. You'll be paying for it, it's not free you know.

[Fade9wayz]

Yeah, I'm rather confident that Andromeda is where the series will now live and eventually die. I reckon that if they had any plans at all for content involving the Milky Way, they wouldn't have bothered with switching the setting to a new galaxy in the first place.

Well, I could see games taking place during the original ME series. Something like 'Omega Noir', or 'Cerberus: Suicide Squad' happening with entirely different protagonists and in strict parallel to The Shepard (no intersection whatsoever, except for the inevitable news feeds and the likes). Wouldn't fix the Endings though.

 

EDIT: And I'm completely certain that some BSNers would still gripe

[Fade9wayz]

It's money dude, it's money. You'll be paying for it, it's not free you know

And nobody puts a gun to your head, and forces you to buy this game

[Commander Rpg]

And nobody puts a gun to your head, and forces you to buy this game

Your comment doesn't make sense, I was answering to the user that told that "nobody cares that much" about the crookedness put in this game, by saying that those should care very much because it's not going to come free and you're spitting cash if you want to play it.

Then you come and tell me that I'm not forced to buy it. While the statement is true, I must counter-state that as I'm not forced to buy it, because I have the use of wisdom, you're not forced to take this direct and explicit stand to defend the other people's will to buy and to not care about real controversies.

You're not a Fartware employee but you sound a lot like a nerd-raging fanboy.

[Fredward]

Starting to feel a bit like Rose concerning all these ending gripes.

 

[Fade9wayz]

Your comment doesn't make sense, I was answering to the user that told that "nobody cares that much" about the crookedness put in this game, by saying that those should care very much because it's not going to come free and you're spitting cash if you want to play it.

Then you come and tell me that I'm not forced to buy it. While the statement is true, I must counter-state that as I'm not forced to buy it, because I have the use of wisdom, you're not forced to take this direct and explicit stand to defend the other people's will to buy and to not care about real controversies.

You're not a Fartware employee but you sound a lot like a nerd-raging fanboy.

I'm not forced, I want to. That's their, and my right not to care about your perceived crookedness of a game we still don't know much about. If, and I stress the 'if', I want to buy it, it's my prerogative. If you don't want to that's yours.

 

How you make the leap to name me a nerd-raging fanboy when I'm pointing out the obvious is beyond me, but if that's what makes you feel better about your own incoherence, go ahead.

[Commander Rpg]

I'm not forced, I want to.

Another out of context and unwanted information I never alluded to. Fanatic passive-aggressiveness is rising.

[Fade9wayz]

Another out of context and unwanted information I never alluded to. Fanatic passive-aggressiveness is rising.

Oh, that's rich coming from you. You're the one who threw me a badly veiled insult while calling me a Fartware nerd-raging fanboy, unsubtly implying I have no discerning sense. Let me re-quote you, so that you can retrieve the context you have magically lost, or maybe it's Alzheimer:
 

Your comment doesn't make sense, I was answering to the user that told that "nobody cares that much" about the crookedness put in this game, by saying that those should care very much because it's not going to come free and you're spitting cash if you want to play it.
Then you come and tell me that I'm not forced to buy it. While the statement is true, I must counter-state that as I'm not forced to buy it, because I have the use of wisdom, you're not forced to take this direct and explicit stand to defend the other people's will to buy and to not care about real controversies.
You're not a Fartware employee but you sound a lot like a nerd-raging fanboy.

I even bolded and underlined it for you, in case you have troubles with your eyes as well. Although now, judging from your obvious intellectual disingenuity, I know you're actually just a ******-poor troll. I hope it was enough agressivity to amuse you, I'm done entertaining you now.

[AlanC9]

I'd actually say it's unlikely we don't return to the Milky Way at some point in the future. I honestly believe Bioware will either come up with some BS reasons why we can return, retcon the ending or make one of the endings canon in a few years time (if the franchise is still going strong).
 
Undoubtedly though, Andromeda is where we'll be staying for a long while

That's reasonable. Given the way fan turnover works, how many ME7 buyers will have even played ME3?

[AlanC9]

A - It's partially true, and if history and common sense have taught me well, a partial truth is a complete lie.
B - It might be true or not, but it's so unusual when supposedly done by Fartware
C - Get a grip, take a deep breath and evaluate. This is the real deal, they've failed to continue with intellectual honesty and they're offering you a convenient excuse to buy a product.
 

Are you actively trying to not make any sense here?

[Killroy]

Use your intellect and find out.

"You will pay the price for your lack of vision." (cit.)

"Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if one blind person guides another, both will fall into a pit." (cit.)

I know everything I need to know, but I won't explain it to mentally armored people because it would be a loss of my time.

A - It's partially true, and if history and common sense have taught me well, a partial truth is a complete lie.

B - It might be true or not, but it's so unusual when supposedly done by Fartware

C - Get a grip, take a deep breath and evaluate. This is the real deal, they've failed to continue with intellectual honesty and they're offering you a convenient excuse to buy a product.

Sadly the donkeys here didn't understand, but in truth I tell you I don't care at all if the game is set in Andromeda or in Duckberg, what displeases me is the crookedness they behaved with to come to this decision.

 

Oh, so you are just a troll. 

[KaiserShep]

Are you actively trying to not make any sense here?

Baffle unlocked: +5 confusion - causes enemies to lose focus and derails thread. Upgrades to Babel: superior confusion - causes thread lock.

[Fandango]

Returning to the Milky Way will mean revisiting (and making some sense of) the ending to the original trilogy. Given that it was so very poorly conceived and received, I just can't see that happening. 

 

It's a great shame right enough, but restarting things so doesn't preclude Bioware from creating an equally compelling setting for Andromeda.

 

Fingers firmly crossed eh?

[rossler]

The Extended Cut was the end of the road regarding the ending.

[General TSAR]

The Extended Cut was the end of the road regarding the ending.

More like a poor attempt to cover shortfalls caused by developer incompetence.

[JohnstonMR]

Look, I loved Shepard, and I actually LOVED the ending of Mass Effect 3 (MY ending, that is--the one in which Shepard cured the genophage, brought the Quarians and the Geth back together, and sacrificed himself to bring true unity to the galaxy through Synthesis).  

(Side note: I have a theory that people who read a lot of SF--especially Peter F. Hamilton's stuff, for example--liked the ending of ME3 far more than those who don't read a lot. But that's anecdotal, so let's move on)

 

But that story is done.  Would I like to see the galaxy as it exists ten or twenty years later?  Of course.  But that would require Bioware to canonize my personal ending.  That doesn't make sense.  

 

You can rail at their decision all you like, but reality is that the only way to do another Mass Effect game that doesn't lock you into a canon ending you may not have liked is to move the setting.  

As for the Milky Way being a character?  Horsecrap.  The MW at no point comes even close to being a character; as others have said, it's a setting.  You could have set ME1-3 in any other galaxy with renamed planets/systems and it would have been the same story.  

[Killroy]

to bring true unity to the galaxy through Synthesis).  

(Side note: I have a theory that people who read a lot of SF--especially Peter F. Hamilton's stuff, for example--liked the ending of ME3 far more than those who don't read a lot. But that's anecdotal, so let's move on)

 

You can't just do a drive-by stupid-ing and expect no one to say anything. I think Hamilton would be offended by your comparison.

[Remix-General Aetius]

No it doesn't. That would be far too shortsighted, considering the universe is endless and has unlimited potential & places to explore.

[JohnstonMR]

You can't just do a drive-by stupid-ing and expect no one to say anything. I think Hamilton would be offended by your comparison.

 

Well, that's the thing about opinions.  Everybody gets to have one. I'm not the only one who has put forth this opinion, but I did say it's just a theory, and anecdotal.  I'd waste more time discussing it, but both your previous posts and your jump to immediate insults tell me I should just ignore you.  So I'm going to do that. 

[N7Jamaican]

Get over it. I'm sure every fan wants to be in the Milky Way. But most are excited to go to Andromeda.  

[Cyberstrike nTo]

 

Still. MP is all drama.  Just put something out and focus on the SP Bioware.

 

Fixed it for you!

[Killroy]

Get over it. I'm sure every fan wants to be in the Milky Way. But most are excited to go to Andromeda.  

 

I don't want to stay in the Milky Way. I don't care about the Milky Way. The Milky Way galaxy of the Mass Effect universe is just as fictional as Thedas so there's no inherent value in staying there just to stay there.

[katamuro]

I don't want to stay in the Milky Way. I don't care about the Milky Way. The Milky Way galaxy of the Mass Effect universe is just as fictional as Thedas so there's no inherent value in staying there just to stay there.

 

Well if you think that if suddenly the next Dragon Age would be announced as set in a different world that Thedas and no one would care you are sorely mistaken. 

People love their fictional worlds.