I really rolled my eyes the second I saw this thread
Removing Racial Features entirely from ME games because evolution
#51
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 10:48
#52
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 12:03
Not sure why everyone is rolling his eyes as if the op insulted people. You are going to be dead in thousands of years, so it's not like saying that humanity will be less diverse in the future might really affect you. While i disagree, and do not want that to happen in any mass effect, I think it's an interesting subject.
Indistinguable ? Same skin color ? Same eye color ? Same kind of hair ? I doubt it. I don't think that evolution is going to happen that way. If anything, mixing the genes would bring more minor nuances than just total and unique homogenization to the point we'd use the word " indistinguable " and everyone would have exactly the same features and looking the same. There could be probably less " strong diversity " in thousands of years ( if humanity is still around... ) between the races but also probably plenty of minor differences and nuances, and among them new ones that we don't often see nowadays at the same time.
Among the metis despite being all mixed, some have straight hair, others have curly hair, and some kept the frizzy hair. Let alone eyes color and color skin that are even more diverse, with new colors even hardly seen before. Some color skin are very pale, other quite dark skinned, olive or very dark skined, some are even white. A half asian and half anything could also keep the slanted eyes, while it doesn't happen with other metis without asian genes. The more everything will be mixed, the more, there would be new different nuances to appear in my opinion. A new kind of diversity, subtle, while in big appeareance, there could be a sort of homogenization.. But then it would require thousands and thousands of years lol... Not going to happen in Mass effect..
Also geography, different climates could help keeping strong differences, but also at the same time, in a future like Mass effect, indeed segregations because of the separation between the planets in space with just several million, people confined thanks to distant borders, would likely keep strong racial differences or even bring more nuances and differences with people from earth or other human planets separated from each other, with years of different natural/ social / cultural environment and different human developpment.
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#53
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 12:06
they should remove white people too
#54
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 12:08
Not sure why everyone is rolling his eyes as if the op insulted people. You are going to be dead in thousands of years, so it's not like saying that humanity will be less diverse in the future might affect you. While i disagree, and do not want that to happen in any mass effect, I think it's an interesting subject.
Everyone rolls their eyes because MEA is going to have same human diversity as original trilogy. Everyone knows that, including OP, but he just had to make thread about something, just for the sake of it.
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#56
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 12:13
Don't worry, Manveer is working on that.
Trump is the heterosexual white male's last hope
#57
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 03:32
Dearest Donk, how do you keep getting away with this? I can't anymore :/
#58
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 03:41
You realize that if this were to happen in a game, there will be outcries of:
-racism
-dev laziness
-lack of creativity with a poor excuse
-eyes getting stuck from such hard eyerolls

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#60
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 04:06
I agree. Although certain traits could be expected to predominate in a general sense, and the population itself could be expected to become overall less diverse.
But in a given population, there are certain physical characteristics that are continuous, and fall along a Gaussian distribution. Height and weight are two such characteristics, skin color is another. There will always be a degree of phenotypic variation in a population - especially a population of billions.
Yeah, that's what I figured. Humans in Mass Effect number in the tens of billions, spread across many planets. I think this would increase diversity, not decrease it, thanks to varying climates, planet gravity, diet, etc.
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#61
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 04:24
Damn, you just won't give up. Persistent bas7@#%I believe they should do this.
SP is all drama. Just put something out and focus on the MP Bioware.
#62
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 04:25
I hate that guy. The illusive Trump.Trump is the heterosexual white male's last hope
#63
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 04:34
How does that help? They report your posts, not your profile. At least in my case...Make your profile private. I haven't got a single warning point since doing so.
I just wish that people would stop wasting their energy on stalking people day and night to report them. Its PATHETIC and LAME. They should get a life instead of being so envious of others having fun!
OT: I think it's a bad idea.
#64
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 04:41
How does that help? They report your posts, not your profile. At least in my case...
Use your profile to scan your posts for anything you can be reported for. Every time I did the dumbest little thing I got reported. Turned off access and it hasn't happened one time since. There are people on this site who have even openly admitted to doing this.
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#65
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 04:45
Use your profile to scan your posts for anything you can be reported for. Every time I did the dumbest little thing I got reported. Turned off access and it hasn't happened one time since.
I'll try it too then, cause the exact same thing is happening to me. I constantly get reported for the smallest stuff ever. It's so silly. People should get a life.
OT: I still think OP has a wrong idea.
#66
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 07:56
This would never happen because evolution doesn't work that way especially since we have recessive traits. Evolution favors diversity (so long as they can remain in the current environment). If there is no diversity among our DNA there is no evolution. So if let's say the environment of a bird changed drastically and favored birds with big beaks if there is no birds with this gene hiding in its DNA then the species will likely die out. If there is no diversity evolution cannot act upon it. Beyond that do you know how many genes are involved in just skin color alone? This is why you have such a wide variety of skin color now. All of these genes would have to literally be in one combination or only a few. Crossing over would have to be eliminated.
The only way this could happen is if the majority I mean 99% of the human population was gone. Then maybe then you would see it, but it would be because of a massive event. Not because of evolution itself. Bottlenecking and the founder effect. Things like that. Recessive traits can hide in a generational line for years before they are expressed. I mean it would need to be a very drastic event and even if that happened because we are sexual reproducing it isn't very likely. Amish even though they have the founder effect due to small numbers still have never gotten to the point where they all look alike. Humans will always be genetically diverse unless we just stop reproducing all together.
As someone who studies biology and is looking to be a biologist I hate this article. The author has no idea what evolution is or does. Removing your body hair does not mean your genetic code will change. That's not how evolution works. You already have to have hairless body in your DNA for evolution to act upon it. UGHHHHHH. Evolution can ONLY act when you have genetic diversity that's already present. We all are born with body hair. This is not going to happen.
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#67
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 09:13
Imagine if racism was in the game and you made your Shepard a black female jewish lesbian. That would annoy lots of people if the first human spectre was like this:There is no point since the prejudices we have today are already non-existent in the Mass Effect universe. The only prejudices that still exist between humans in Mass Effect are cultural ones, like the people on Horizon who are prejudiced against those in the Alliance. All this would result in is complaints.
"Sorry racist, nazi, sexist homophobes but everyone in the galaxy owes Commander Shepard now."
#68
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 09:16
This would never happen because evolution doesn't work that way especially since we have recessive traits. Evolution favors diversity (so long as they can remain in the current environment). If there is no diversity among our DNA there is no evolution. So if let's say the environment of a bird changed drastically and favored birds with big beaks if there is no birds with this gene hiding in its DNA then the species will likely die out. If there is no diversity evolution cannot act upon it. Beyond that do you know how many genes are involved in just skin color alone? This is why you have such a wide variety of skin color now. All of these genes would have to literally be in one combination or only a few. Crossing over would have to be eliminated.
The only way this could happen is if the majority I mean 99% of the human population was gone. Then maybe then you would see it, but it would be because of a massive event. Not because of evolution itself. Bottlenecking and the founder effect. Things like that. Recessive traits can hide in a generational line for years before they are expressed. I mean it would need to be a very drastic event and even if that happened because we are sexual reproducing it isn't very likely. Amish even though they have the founder effect due to small numbers still have never gotten to the point where they all look alike. Humans will always be genetically diverse unless we just stop reproducing all together.
As someone who studies biology and is looking to be a biologist I hate this article. The author has no idea what evolution is or does. Removing your body hair does not mean your genetic code will change. That's not how evolution works. You already have to have hairless body in your DNA for evolution to act upon it. UGHHHHHH. Evolution can ONLY act when you have genetic diversity that's already present. We all are born with body hair. This is not going to happen.
Alright, just keep going and I'll be all set for my upcoming Biology exams!
#69
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 09:19
I Hear ya buddy.Alright, just keep going and I'll be all set for my upcoming Biology exams!
#70
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 09:56
That would completely remove the diversity humanity is recognized for. Turn us all into Asari 2.0? No thanks.
It would address things that shouldn't be addressed in the fiction, but honestly, I always speculated if Asari were a sister-race to humanity and both somehow came from the same genetic origin or race but natural selection changed them as they got split and ended up in vastly different climates over a couple of tens of thousands of years.
#71
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 10:00
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#72
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 10:40
It would address things that shouldn't be addressed in the fiction, but honestly, I always speculated if Asari were a sister-race to humanity and both somehow came from the same genetic origin or race but natural selection changed them as they got split and ended up in vastly different climates over a couple of tens of thousands of years.
You mean like Miraluka , Echani and other near human species in Star Wars?
Which presumably all descend from the same primordial species.
I mean all the erm parts hook up correctly, children can be born if dalliances occur.
#73
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 11:54
You realize that if this were to happen in a game, there will be outcries of:
-racism
-dev laziness
-lack of creativity with a poor excuse
-eyes getting stuck from such hard eyerolls
Not to be that guy but, who is that?
I wonder when purple Asari gained civil rights from the blue Asari? Does anyone else wonder this, or is it just me?
#74
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 12:00
Yeah, that's what I figured. Humans in Mass Effect number in the tens of billions, spread across many planets. I think this would increase diversity, not decrease it, thanks to varying climates, planet gravity, diet, etc.
Though the vast majority still live on Earth by the time of ME3.
#75
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 01:48
Not to be that guy but, who is that?
Lady Mary from Downton Abbey. Never watched the show but I know of it.
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