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[Quarian Master Race]

Envirosuits have huge advantages: You never have to worry about what to wear. Doing laundry? Never again! Forgot your umbrella? Doesn't matter, you're protected!

 

Seriously... why aren't we wearing the suits already?

because you're primitives

anyway, it's more likely that humanity is headed more in this direction.....


Still, at least you'll all be space nomads with robots inhabiting your destroyed planet, so you've got something right.

[afgncaap7]

The problem here is that the idea of futuristic humans who no longer have different races isn't gonna mean jack diddly squat to the modern audience who do have different races. This is the same problem they had with the Quarians - no matter what design they went with, SOMEBODY was gonna hate it.

Let's say that they did go with "Mono ethnicity".
Too white? Black people get offended.
Too black? White people get offended.
​Too Hispanic? Black people and white people get offended.
​Too Asian? Black, white and Hispanic people get offended.
​You can't win no matter what you do with it.

​Until human beings actually evolve to the point that this is reality then you're better off just making a diverse game for a diverse market.

[Han Shot First]

Not to mention that it would result in a very limited CC, which no one will like...

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

Don't remove the racial weapon bonuses...If anything...add more of them...If you play multiplayer like most of us here do,,,,then you know only a few of the races receive native weapon bonuses.... I would love Asari and Quarians getting a bonus weapon damage with theirs.

[Bowlcuts]

Don't remove the racial weapon bonuses...If anything...add more of them...If you play multiplayer like most of us here do,,,,then you know only a few of the races receive native weapon bonuses.... I would love Asari and Quarians getting a bonus weapon damage with theirs.

Woah, you're out of the multiplayer section? No way. I would suggest some friendly advice to stay over there...this section taints everything.

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  A bunch of you guys have been trying to get me over to this side of the forums for weeks....I just started drinking and figured why not.....

[Dobbysaurus]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  A bunch of you guys have been trying to get me over to this side of the forums for weeks....I just started drinking and figured why not.....

 

Welcome!

[Andrew Lucas]

This thread reminds me of DA section and its endless SJWs

Come on, Mass Effect pls. Can't get much complicated.

[Addictress]

I don't think the composition of races in humanity is really all that different from the time of the ancient Romans thousands of years ago, except a small new segment of mixed people. Why would it change in only 500 years?

[Han Shot First]

I don't think the composition of races in humanity is really all that different from the time of the ancient Romans thousands of years ago, except a small new segment of mixed people. Why would it change in only 500 years?

 

Pretty much.

 

There was a fun news story a few years back about British archaeologists digging up the bones of some 5,000 year old man, being able to extract DNA from him, and locating a living descendant living in the next town over. That was in a country that's seen multiple waves of migration and invasion in the 5,000 years since that man died. 

[Gamemako]

I don't think the composition of races in humanity is really all that different from the time of the ancient Romans thousands of years ago, except a small new segment of mixed people. Why would it change in only 500 years?

There is some evidence that skin tones respond quite quickly to selective pressures. Geographic isolation is a key part of skin tone stratification, after all, and skin changes may not require more than a few millennia to change within a population. Given the mixing rates, the movement toward the middle would be -- will be -- comparatively swift. That said...

I think the most accurate answers have already been given, though. We're not far enough into the future for that kind of homogenization. ME1-3 would only be about 8 generations from today, or about 4 generations from the elder generation still being around to see the Reaper war. Expecting fringe cases to be eliminated quickly is far too short. If we take U.S. population (67.3% non-hispanic white), 4 generations of completely random mixing will still leave 4.2% of the population with purely pasty bloodlines, or a third at least 3/4 white (incl. hispanic). I use U.S. because of its lack of a dominant native population, thanks in part to colonial genocide. We still have quite a lot of population isolation right now, including large swaths of isolated land such as central South America and politically-isolated populations such as North Korea. All of these divisions will push forward the time scale required for more complete mixing. Furthermore, there will inevitably be more isolating factors. The people who reach Andromeda will ultimately become a distinct population (and possibly new species) from those who remained in the Milky Way.

Of course, if they were going for realism, it's fairly obvious that the next protagonist should probably be born into a world that is comprised of a lot more mixes and less like turn-of-the-millennium Edmonton. After all, in the United States, half of all Asian women marry outside of their own ethnic group. However, that's not to say that BioWare are really doing a terrible job or anything, because it's really hard to find a mix for the audiences of 2016.

This would never happen because evolution doesn't work that way especially since we have recessive traits. Evolution favors diversity (so long as they can remain in the current environment). If there is no diversity among our DNA there is no evolution.

Evolution causes diversity, not the other way around. There is no primordial diversity pool from which all diversity arises; random mutations and sexual reproduction will establish diversity and adapt a species to its ever-changing environment. Recessive traits are not necessary for adaptation, nor are recessive traits phenotypically unexpressed (heck, you're probably more thinking epistasis anyhow, which can also inhibit the expression of dominant genes). Some traits can be both adaptive and quite deadly. Sickle cell disease is considered autosomal recessive even though its associated alleles are codominant: if you have one, you have immunity to malaria; if you have both, you have sickle cell anemia. Additionally, you certainly cannot neglect epigenetic effects. Most phenotypic females have two X chromosomes (excepting Turner with 1, or XY female Swyer or CAIS, or XXX, XXXX, etc), but one is inactivated. Some species more or less express one of the two for their entire lifetimes, and in other species, some environmental effects can influence expression of one or the other. Once again, neither are recessive.

Anyhow, diversity is not limited to raw inheritance of existing factors, and certainly not inheritance of factors currently expressed. But perhaps moreover, lack of wide variance in skin tone absolutely does not preclude genetic diversity. The populations of China are not genetically handicapped because they don't have a lot of pasty white people and dark black people. Ethnic factors that arise as a matter of isolation can be stripped away without hammering genetic fitness in a modern environment. The main questions are likely to be what future selective pressures are, and how those will shape the future of ethnicity.

[Kabooooom]

^^that last paragraph is an excellent point, and one I didnt bother mentioning in previous posts. Lack of phenotypic variance of ONE particular trait does not equal lack of genetic diversity within a population overall. And with respect to two phenotypically and genetically diverse populations interbreeding completely, as I said before, one would totally expect a decrease in diversity between certain continuous phenotypic characteristics (such as skin tone), but this would not equal a decrease in genetic diversity overall. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[Gamemako]

...one would totally expect a decrease in diversity between certain continuous phenotypic characteristics (such as skin tone), but this would not equal a decrease in genetic diversity overall. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Nicely concise way of putting it.