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IF wyverns can be tamed,why GW used griffins?


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We also have an evil Dragon cult in Haven, evil Darkspawn Archdemon-Dragons, an Red lyrium Dragon that serves Corypheus, codex entries about evil reptile people and while Dragons and Wyverns aren't really evil they frequently threaten human settelments and we have to kill them. Oh and said illogical zealot trolls are implied to be somehow linked to dragons themselves.
But at least I got a Dracolisk in DAI, so maybe the villains monopoly on reptilian sidekicks finally loosens.

I meant Qunari the religon, not the specie.

Edit: Also, Flemeth and her family shapeshift on Dragons or have Dragons, thanks to that we beat Corypheus, they. are not evil. (Althoug Morrigan is often mean)

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Hey now, Prosper was clearly a massive bag of d**ks. Maybe he wasn't EEEEEVIL, but his demise was his own doing.


Well, every politician sucks in some manner, but Erimond and Howe are worse than him.

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The Duke's wyvern never really seemed 'tamed' to me, more like 'drugged, trapped, and angry about it'.  :lol:

 

I'm hoping he'd have taken the chance to stomp the Duke if he got it...

 

I like to think that the Duke and it got along pretty good, I mean he seemed to have a soft spot for it.

 

Except the stupid lizard's reptile brain doesn't understand the concept of love.



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Well, every politician sucks in some manner, but Eamon and Howe are worse than him.

 

Eamon? Really? :rolleyes:

 

I'm sure you're going to fill me in on how Eamon was a manipulator who abused Alistair and kicked puppies for fun, but Eamon helped you defeat the Blight. He never tried to kill you repeatedly.

 

"Let me walk away, Prosper." "No, screw you." The bastard even tries to stab you when you offer to save him.



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Eamon? Really? :rolleyes:
 
I'm sure you're going to fill me in on how Eamon was a manipulator who abused Alistair and kicked puppies for fun, but Eamon helped you defeat the Blight. He never tried to kill you repeatedly.
 
"Let me walk away, Prosper." "No, screw you." The bastard even tries to stab you when you offer to save him.


Hey, you are a Qunari associate, I wanted to turn on Talis but the devs didn't give us that option.

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Obviously the Wardens should have dedicated themselves to taming dragons. They fly and breath fire/lightning/ice!

 

I mean, they also hibernate for decades/centuries at a time, but I'm sure they could poke them with sticks to wake them up if a Blight started.

 

Now you've done it. I can totally picture the Wardens drawing straws to determine who's going to try and wake the dragon.


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Eamon? 

 

Maybe they meant Erimond.



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Maybe they meant Erimond.


Yeah, the IPad seems to correct Erimond's name, I barely use it.

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Arch demons are way more difficult to kill than high dragons, if you ignore the game play mechanics of DAO and go by the lore instead.   In the Last Flight you just have to be in the path of its Void breath and you are dead, so I don't care how effective a wyvern might be against a high dragon, it would either be swamped by the superior numbers of darkspawn on the ground or the arch demon would fly down and zap it before it could escape.    In Last Flight the reason they were able to bring down the arch demon was because the tainted griffons went berserk and attacked it on mass.   Even then it went out across the bay to land among some ships,  I recall, which is where Garahel and Crookytail caught up with it.   Can wyverns swim?

 

Also I think Leopold was a very unusual wyvern in being as tame as he was; I think generally they are not trainable.



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Arch demons are way more difficult to kill than high dragons, if you ignore the game play mechanics of DAO and go by the lore instead.   In the Last Flight you just have to be in the path of its Void breath and you are dead, so I don't care how effective a wyvern might be against a high dragon, it would either be swamped by the superior numbers of darkspawn on the ground or the arch demon would fly down and zap it before it could escape.    In Last Flight the reason they were able to bring down the arch demon was because the tainted griffons went berserk and attacked it on mass.   Even then it went out across the bay to land among some ships,  I recall, which is where Garahel and Crookytail caught up with it.   Can wyverns swim?

 

Also I think Leopold was a very unusual wyvern in being as tame as he was; I think generally they are not trainable.

A group of big wyverns can charge the darkspawn without problems like an unit of chivalry they jumps are extraordinary several metres as it is their strength.
The archdemon of last flight was Andhoral not Urthemiel there is nothing that suggest that the archdemon are equals in terms of power


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You'd think GW's would just think of taming dragons, but I suppose it's nearly impossible. In any case, the 'fuel' would be cost-prohibitive. You'd have to supply each dragon with like twenty horses a day.



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You'd think GW's would just think of taming dragons, but I suppose it's nearly impossible. In any case, the 'fuel' would be cost-prohibitive. You'd have to supply each dragon with like twenty horses a day.

High dragons can't be tamed without the Evanuris magic and they are also very rare in the setting


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One of the main reasons that they partnered up with the Wardens was that griffons have a unique hatred of the Blight. A Griffon that has been exposed to it will tear themself apart, either in a frenzied attempt to kill a tainted creature it can sense (itself) or out of a deliberate decision to commit suicide rather then be tainted. Other animals like wolves, bears and spiders will live on as blighted creatures but not Griffons.

 

They really like to kill Darkspawn.


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I don't think arch demons are that different in power.   The 5th Blight was ended so quickly because of the tremendous luck of our PC (and gameplay/story mechanics), not because Urthemiel was so much weaker than the previous ones.   I pretty sure that when Razikale and Lusacan arise, whether as arch demons or just regular old gods, they are going to be no pushover.   Dumat may have been superior to the others because it would seem he was head of the pantheon but the deadly Void magic described in the Last Flight would be available to any of them.  

 

I'm pretty sure that as Grey Wardens seem willing to use any means necessary to stop the Blight, if it had been possible to train a cavalry of wyverns they would have done so.



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One of the main reasons that they partnered up with the Wardens was that griffons have a unique hatred of the Blight. A Griffon that has been exposed to it will tear themself apart, either in a frenzied attempt to kill a tainted creature it can sense (itself) or out of a deliberate decision to commit suicide rather then be tainted. Other animals like wolves, bears and spiders will live on as blighted creatures but not Griffons.

 

They really like to kill Darkspawn.

I never saw a corrupted Wyvern,these creature are relate to dragons so they share in part dragon blood and are even resistant to the blight,they are probably more resistant than griffins.



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I don't think arch demons are that different in power.   The 5th Blight was ended so quickly because of the tremendous luck of our PC (and gameplay/story mechanics), not because Urthemiel was so much weaker than the previous ones.   I pretty sure that when Razikale and Lusacan arise, whether as arch demons or just regular old gods, they are going to be no pushover.   Dumat may have been superior to the others because it would seem he was head of the pantheon but the deadly Void magic described in the Last Flight would be available to any of them.  

 

I'm pretty sure that as Grey Wardens seem willing to use any means necessary to stop the Blight, if it had been possible to train a cavalry of wyverns they would have done so.

The old gods are not equal in power,the more they are powerful the more stronger is their calling and it is not really a coincidence that the first to be found was Dumat and that him and Zazikale endured much longer than the others.
Each time an old god is awakened into the corrupted form it require a lesser amount of time in order to be killed compared to the previous one without any significant improvement in terms of technology by Theodosian,it is simply statistic here from the 192 years of Dumat to the 1 year of Urthemiel
DUmat and Zazikale fought against the Tevinter and Orlesian empire at the pinnacle of their power and were a great problem.
 
 
The GW are really incompetent when it comes to research and experimentation,in 1 thousands of years they never experimented with darkspawn and never discovered that they could have been awakened.