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[Blood Mage Reaver]

When playing Trespasser, the veilfire rune in the Deep Roads tells the following:

 

In the light of the veilfire, the runes seem to shift, coiling and uncoiling like snakes. A thunderous voice shatters the stillness, shouting:

 

"Hail Mythal, adjudicator and savior! She has struck down the pillars of the earth and rendered their demesne unto the People! Praise her name forever!"

 

For a moment, the scent of blood fills the air, and there is a vivid image of green vines growing and enveloping a sphere of fire.

The vision grows dark. An aeon seems to pass. Then the runes crackle, as if filled with an angry energy.

A new vision appears: elves collapsing caverns, sealing the Deep Roads with stone and magic.

Terror, heart-pounding, ice-cold, as the last of the spells is cast.

A voice whispers:

 

"What the Evanuris in their greed could unleash would end us all. Let this place be forgotten. Let no one wake its anger. The People must rise before their false gods destroy them all."

 

If we consider the sphere of fire to be Thedas core and the vines to be a representation of the Elven Empire carving into the bowels of the earth through the Titans, this would mean that ancient elves dug in too deep and found something truly abhorent with the power to end the entire world.

 

This connects to two important plot threads, the Red Lyrium Idol and Solas affirmation that the Evanuris would end the world if he did not stop them by all means necessary.

 

We now know that red lyrium is titan's blood infected by the light but how could the RLI exist if it predated the blights? The answer harkens back to the tale of Andruil going to hunt the Forgotten Ones in the Void.

 

Andruil ventured into the Void and returned mad, wearing an armor made of void which twisted her appearance beyond regonition and spread a plague through her lands. These symptoms are a painfully obvious reference to the Blight.

 

Andruil, like the Seven Magisters, was mutated by the Blight into a darkspawn emissary whose "armor made of void" was just a reference to the horrifying appearance she took like how Corypheus turned into a mess of clothing fused with scales and flesh.

 

To further lead credence to this interpretation, Solas, who wasn't even awake during the blights, seemed to know a great deal about the subject and pointed out the importance the Old Gods had in holding back something even worse than them. This can only mean that something similar happened during his time and that he is terrifyied of whatever is behind them breaking loose.

 

Mythal, who beat Andruil and cured her of her ailment, placed huge importance on saving the soul of an Old God and her connection to dragons coupled with their resistance to blight corruption indicate she had a huge role in stopping the elven blights, possibly even utilizing blood magic with dragon blood since the former has been shown to cleanse the taint and the latter is not just ridiculously powerful but also the main component of cleansing runes.

 

If the RLI was created during the elven wars against the Blight then this means that what we know as Blight was already sealed deep down the earth even before the rise of elven civilization with titans acting as an effective physical barrier to contain it from spreading.

 

Indeed, Descent raises the question as to why Darkspawn avoid attacking the Sha Brytol and implies that the titan's song clashes with the one sung by the Blight and the one sung by the Old Gods.

 

Once we put together the ancient nature of the Blight, the role of the titans in shaping the world to contain it, the power of blood and dragons to confront it and how it keeps whispering about vengeance against the world, we come to a few interesting conclusions.

 

One is that the Maker whom the Chantry preaches as the opposite of the Void and the creator of the Blight is actually the very thing sealed in the heart of Thedas causing it.

 

Given the dual nature between spirits and demons, the Maker being a Spirit of Creation corrupted into a Demon of Void by the betrayal of it's creations could be the source of an intelligent disease which seeks to corrupt or destroy all life on the planet.

 

Assuming that the Origin of Blights is indeed an all powerful demon sealed by the collective power of all titans and that when the Evanuris started killing titans to harvest their power it created holes in it's seal, then the Old Gods could very well be a replacement seal made by Mythal to keep the Maker from breaking free and destroying the world.

 

If Hakkon is any indication, dragons can be made into hosts of powerful spirits to create godlike abominations and the likes of Mythal and Solas could arguably devise seven beings of such to act as a giant barrier while the titans healed from the elves's plunder.

 

This raises into question why would the Old Gods trick the Seven Magisters into releasing the Blight and turning themselves into Arch Demons but perhaps it was never them who talked to ancient humans in the first place.

 

Giving that the Temple of Dumat in Legacy still works despite it's supposed benefactor being long dead, it's possible that the Maker actually impersonated the spirits possessing the dragons to trick the magisters into blowing a hole into his prison.

 

This is supported by the fact that every one of the Old Gods agreed simultaneously to have their followers breach the Black City and they all became silent once the deed was done. This consensus of both actions and objectives are indicative of a single entity acting rather than a group of them.

 

It also explains why they must be corrupted into Archdemons in order to lead the horde, their songs actually suppress the Maker so their beautiful lullaby attracts darkspawn who carry his will to corrupt them.

 

Much like how Corypheus could take over Anders despite him already being possessed by Justice, the Maker can turn the Old Gods into it's thralls to carry out his will against their choice.

 

Not coincidentally, shortly after the First Blight ended, Andraste came to the masses claiming to carry the will of the Maker with herself and that if all joined his chant the the world would be redeemed.

 

It's possible that when Dumat was slain by the wardens and his soul was destroyed, fragments of the Maker's spirit used to corrupt him were purified and later reformed into a consciouss entity met by Andraste.

 

That entity probably told Andraste how he created the world but likely glossed over and changed facts to make her sympathetic to his cause.

 

He hid the fact that it was imprisoned by his own creations and instead created the myth that he had imprisoned spirits who tried to usurp his throne, he also lied about creating the Veil because that would require revealing too much information about the elfs whom he didn't control and he ultimately twisted the perception of the Blight from his demonic manifestation into a curse he made to punish humanity for it's sins.

 

Thus the Maker used Andraste to return his creations into his worship and more or less stopped trying to kill them at least until she died.

 

After she died betrayed and her followers turned the Chant of Light into a political tool to serve their own ends, the Maker went back into full kill 'em all mode and has been unleashing Blight after Blight into what he considers self-serving heretics ever since.

 

How the above affects future Dragon Age games?

 

It basically creates a plot chain linking everything into serial escalation.

 

Solas wants to destroy the Veil to restore ancient elves but he will likely set free the Evanuris and they will proceed to attack the Titans in their quest to obtain unlimited power, the actions of the Evanuris in turn will ultimately set free the Maker and he will taint the entire world before our PC pull a Kratos and stop him.

[Dai Grepher]

Like you wrote, red lyrium is just tainted lyrium. The Red Lyrium Idol could have existed before as the "Blue Lyrium Idol", and was then later corrupted by the taint.

I think it was made clear by Corypheus that he and the other Magisters brought the taint back from the Black City. They dug down into the earth to reach the old gods. During that time the Darkspawn were created, and eventually they corrupted the lyrium.

As for Andruil, I doubt she was infected with the taint. The story portrays her as mad, not tainted. Also, the Forgotten Ones were able to survive in the Void without being driven mad. So it is probably some new element we haven't seen yet. Or its possible that the Void is simply the Deeper Roads, and the element that drove Andruil mad was raw lyrium.

I had the idea that the She-Brytol armor was fashioned after Andruil's armor. This would explain how Mythal was able to weaken Andruil after three days. She likely had to break her armor away first and then drain the excess mana from her. Then she made her forget.

I think Solas was only trying to imply that killing the old gods would not end the blights. It would just give the Darkspawn no reason to keep digging underground. It would be an all out war on the surface that would see no end. At least one old god is needed as a distraction until all the broodmothers can be destroyed.

[Dai Grepher]

Mythal, who beat Andruil and cured her of her ailment, placed huge importance on saving the soul of an Old God

Only because the old gods are powerful beings. Perhaps more powerful than the evanuris.

and her connection to dragons coupled with their resistance to blight corruption indicate she had a huge role in stopping the elven blights,

No it doesn't. First, there is no evidence there were any elvhen blights. There is no evidence of the taint's existence during that era. A blight is when an old god is corrupted and rises to command the Darkspawn. Second, Mythal certainly did find a way to end a blight, but it was with Flemeth's help, and it wasn't until around 9:31 that they can possibly implement their plan. Third, the dragons have resistance, but not immunity.

possibly even utilizing blood magic with dragon blood since the former has been shown to cleanse the taint and the latter is not just ridiculously powerful but also the main component of cleansing runes.

Dragon's blood is for demon slaying, I think. Corpse hearts and revenant hearts are for cleansing runes. Also, blood magic is only shown to slow the spread of the taint, not cleanse it.

...with titans acting as an effective physical barrier to contain it from spreading.

Not sure how that would work, since lyrium can be corrupted.

Indeed, Descent raises the question as to why Darkspawn avoid attacking the Sha Brytol and implies that the titan's song clashes with the one sung by the Blight and the one sung by the Old Gods.

Maybe. But it seems to me like the She-Brytol were the ones preventing the Darkspawn from getting too close to a titan. The song clashing wouldn't prevent the Darkspawn from trying to attack. It just means they can't hear the song of the old gods in that area. Maybe they would prefer to keep hearing it, like the Mother did.

...the role of the titans in shaping the world...

I don't think it can be correctly inferred that the titans shaped the world. I'm sure they had great influence over it, but the actual creation of the world probably was not through them. Rather, they are likely the result of the earth receiving magical energy from the Fade, manifesting as lyrium.

One is that the Maker whom the Chantry preaches as the opposite of the Void and the creator of the Blight is actually the very thing sealed in the heart of Thedas causing it.

What? The Maker is supposed to be a sentient being. The core of the world is just mass.

Also, the Void could be a place of destruction within the Fade, or perhaps it is the lyrium. Maybe the two are connected.

Given the dual nature between spirits and demons, the Maker being a Spirit of Creation corrupted into a Demon of Void by the betrayal of it's creations could be the source of an intelligent disease which seeks to corrupt or destroy all life on the planet.

I'm sure that the Maker did create the taint, and the Chant says as much. But it makes no sense for it to originate in the real world. We have confirmation from multiple sources that it originated in the Black City after it was corrupted by the Magisters.

...then the Old Gods could very well be a replacement seal made by Mythal...

Doubtful. The old gods are likely far older and more powerful than Mythal. Just talking to OGB Kieran makes it seem like Urthemiel knows more about the titans and the future than Mythal does.

If Hakkon is any indication, dragons can be made into hosts of powerful spirits to create godlike abominations and the likes of Mythal and Solas could arguably devise seven beings of such to act as a giant barrier while the titans healed from the elves's plunder.

But the old gods call the Darkspawn to them and are corrupted upon mere touch. Why would Mythal use them for anything other than to boost her own power?

[Blood Mage Reaver]

Like you wrote, red lyrium is just tainted lyrium. The Red Lyrium Idol could have existed before as the "Blue Lyrium Idol", and was then later corrupted by the taint.

I think it was made clear by Corypheus that he and the other Magisters brought the taint back from the Black City. They dug down into the earth to reach the old gods. During that time the Darkspawn were created, and eventually they corrupted the lyrium.

As for Andruil, I doubt she was infected with the taint. The story portrays her as mad, not tainted. Also, the Forgotten Ones were able to survive in the Void without being driven mad. So it is probably some new element we haven't seen yet. Or its possible that the Void is simply the Deeper Roads, and the element that drove Andruil mad was raw lyrium.

I had the idea that the She-Brytol armor was fashioned after Andruil's armor. This would explain how Mythal was able to weaken Andruil after three days. She likely had to break her armor away first and then the excess mana from her. Then she made her forget.

I think Solas was only trying to imply that killing the old gods would not end the blights. It would just give the Darkspawn no reason to keep digging underground. It would be an all out war on the surface that would see no end. At least one old god is needed as a distraction until all the broodmothers can be destroyed.

Codex of Andruil:

One day Andruil grew tired of hunting mortal men and beasts. She began stalking The Forgotten Ones, wicked things that thrive in the abyss. Yet even a god should not linger there, and each time she entered the Void, Andruil suffered longer and longer periods of madness after returning.

 

Andruil put on armor made of the Void, and all forgot her true face. She made weapons of darkness, and plague ate her lands. She howled things meant to be forgotten, and the other gods became fearful Andruil would hunt them in turn. So Mythal spread rumors of a monstrous creature and took the form of a great serpent, waiting for Andruil at the base of a mountain.

 

When Andruil came, Mythal sprang on the hunter. They fought for three day and nights, Andruil slashing deep gouges in the serpent's hide. But Mythal's magic sapped Andruil's strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void. After this, the great hunter could never make her way back to the abyss, and peace returned.

 

I am pretty sure the Evanuris would have known the difference between lyrium and void given that they once hunted titans and I am pretty sure that lyrium doesn't provoke plagues.

 

Also, the Forgotten Ones were never depicted to be sane or healthy, they were "gods" of evil and disease so that survival could very well be because they became darkspawn emissaries or because they used blood magic like Avernus to combat the taint.

 

The Red Lyrium Idol couldn't have been regular lyrium corrupted by darkspawn because the thaig was sealed since long before they appeared, this is supported by the fact that it remains guarded by an army of lyrium eating rock wraiths whom recognize the titans as their gods.

[Dai Grepher]

This raises into question why would the Old Gods trick the Seven Magisters into releasing the Blight and turning themselves into Arch Demons but perhaps it was never them who talked to ancient humans in the first place.

Yes it is. The Darkspawn seek the call of the old gods. They hear them directly.

Giving that the Temple of Dumat in Legacy still works despite it's supposed benefactor being long dead, it's possible that the Maker actually impersonated the spirits possessing the dragons to trick the magisters into blowing a hole into his prison.

Or it's just a demon taking advantage of Dumat's absence.

This is supported by the fact that every one of the Old Gods agreed simultaneously to have their followers breach the Black City and they all became silent once the deed was done. This consensus of both actions and objectives are indicative of a single entity acting rather than a group of them.

Or their plan backfired and they tried to be quiet so their betrayed servants would not find them as quickly.

Not coincidentally, shortly after the First Blight ended, Andraste came to the masses claiming to carry the will of the Maker with herself and that if all joined his chant the the world would be redeemed.

It's possible that when Dumat was slain by the wardens and his soul was destroyed, fragments of the Maker's spirit used to corrupt him were purified and later reformed into a consciouss entity met by Andraste.

An old theory. It would depend on what month Andraste was conceived. But this would have to ignore the soul cancelation of the final blow.

He hid the fact that it was imprisoned by his own creations...

Not seeing your basis for this. The rune in Trespasser states that Mythal slayed a titan. Not that she imprisoned the creator of the world. If anything, the vision of an orb of fire covered with vines shows some work of Elgar'nan and Mythal.

...he also lied about creating the Veil...

More likely Solas lied about it, as he is known to do.

Thus the Maker used Andraste to return his creations into his worship and more or less stopped trying to kill them at least until she died.

After she died betrayed and her followers turned the Chant of Light into a political tool to serve their own ends, the Maker went back into full kill 'em all mode and has been unleashing Blight after Blight into what he considers self-serving heretics ever since.

So the Maker is trying to kill all those who might release him? That makes no sense.

[Blood Mage Reaver]

Only because the old gods are powerful beings. Perhaps more powerful than the evanuris.

While powerful, the Old Gods certainly doesn't measure up to the Evanuris since the former could be slain by normal man as Archdemons while the latter are nearly unkillable and able to fight on par with mountain sized magical beasts like the titans.
 

No it doesn't. First, there is no evidence there were any elvhen blights. There is no evidence of the taint's existence during that era. A blight is when an old god is corrupted and rises to command the Darkspawn. Second, Mythal certainly did find a way to end a blight, but it was with Flemeth's help, and it wasn't until around 9:31 that they can possibly implement their plan. Third, the dragons have resistance, but not immunity.

The elven wars against the taint were certainly not named blights but the war between the Evanuris and the Forgotten Ones, who lived in a hazardous environment with effects suspiciously similar to the taint, are well documented.
 

Dragon's blood is for demon slaying, I think. Corpse hearts and revenant hearts are for cleansing runes. Also, blood magic is only shown to slow the spread of the taint, not cleanse it.

Yeah, dragon blood is used for demon slaying rather than cleansing but Fiona's recovery and subsequent immunity to most forms of the taint was because of blood magic.

Let's also not forget Avernus whose experiments with blood magic extended his life for centuries while negating the degeneration brought by the taint.
 

Not sure how that would work, since lyrium can be corrupted.

Titans aren't made of just lyrium, that's just their blood, they are mostly made of unliving stone and can also shape the stone around them with their groundshaker singing.

Simply put, they can build a thick layer of rock between the demon at the center of the world and themselves and since the taint can only infect the living it cannot move past a huge barrier of unliving tissue.
 

Maybe. But it seems to me like the She-Brytol were the ones preventing the Darkspawn from getting too close to a titan. The song clashing wouldn't prevent the Darkspawn from trying to attack. It just means they can't hear the song of the old gods in that area. Maybe they would prefer to keep hearing it, like the Mother did.

Armed resistance never stopped the darkspawn from leading attacks against all and everything, even when pointless and suicidal.

It was clearly something else which drove them away and it most likely related to the Titan's song drowning out whatever is driving them to attack in the first place.
 

I don't think it can be correctly inferred that the titans shaped the world. I'm sure they had great influence over it, but the actual creation of the world probably was not through them. Rather, they are likely the result of the earth receiving magical energy from the Fade, manifesting as lyrium.

Titans are the ones who shaped the earth mass of Thedas, they may not precede the stone but their sheer size and power allows them to reconfigure the very landscape of the world.

In that sense, if they wanted to create a specific struture, like a cocoon prison for an extremely powerful demon, they could do it by pouring their will into the fabric of the world.
 

What? The Maker is supposed to be a sentient being. The core of the world is just mass.

Thedas underground is inhabited by mountain sized eldritch abominations with enough hollow space for them to move and create skies in it, we can't define what it's core is made of much less we can guess the actual size and shape of something like the Maker.
 

Also, the Void could be a place of destruction within the Fade, or perhaps it is the lyrium. Maybe the two are connected.

I'm sure that the Maker did create the taint, and the Chant says as much. But it makes no sense for it to originate in the real world. We have confirmation from multiple sources that it originated in the Black City after it was corrupted by the Magisters.

The Fade and the "real" world were originally one and the same so the place called void being now in the real realm doesn't stop it from originally being part of the Fade.

Also, there is a gap of information regarding the magisters corrupting the Golden City into a Black One.

Namely, Corypheus states that the city was already black and dead when he arrived while Cole says that it was indeed once golden but neither exclude the possibility of the city having been tainted by another party long before the magisters reached it.

It is also possible that the Black City is actually Arlathan and that the taint was brought there by the Evanuris who began incursions to the Void in their search for even greater power.
 

Doubtful. The old gods are likely far older and more powerful than Mythal. Just talking to OGB Kieran makes it seem like Urthemiel knows more about the titans and the future than Mythal does.

Again, they are nowhere near as powerful as Mythal and her kin during their prime, they are just extremely old.

In my opinion they are spirits bound to dragon hosts, the spirit part would explain why they could be older and more knowledgeable than even Mythal but in terms of power the Evanuris could reshape the very landscape of Thedas with just a thought, you just can't really compare the two.
 

But the old gods call the Darkspawn to them and are corrupted upon mere touch. Why would Mythal use them for anything other than to boost her own power?

Because she, like Solas, is friends with the spirits bounded inside the dragons and wants to save an old friend from perpetual annihilation.

Wheter you have Kieran or not doesn't change the outcome of Solas interaction with Mythal, she still "dies" and he emerges just as godlike.

Also, the Old Gods calling forth the darkspawn is not necessarily intentional. Corypheus was completely unaware he produced a song while he slept and the darkspawn could have very well been designed by the Maker to be attracted to the targets they need to corrupt.

[myahele]

Let's not forget the accomplishment of Merrill cleansing the taint from an Eluvian shard. While the shard might not have been a living thing, it was still tainted.

[Blood Mage Reaver]

Yes it is. The Darkspawn seek the call of the old gods. They hear them directly.

I am not talking about the calling of the darkspawn, I am talking about the spirits who presented themselves as Old Gods to the dreamer mages of early Tevinter.

There is no telling if they were actually who they claimed to be and it's extremely weird that all of them agreed to have their follower breach the Fade at the same only for all of them to become silent right after that failed.

Even weirder is why would the OGs seek to become corrupted in the first place, if they wanted freedom they could have just asked for Tevinter to dig them up and there would have been no opposition from their dwarven allies in the Deep Roads to stop them.

Or it's just a demon taking advantage of Dumat's absence.

If it's just a demon then it really believes itself to be Dumat.

Or their plan backfired and they tried to be quiet so their betrayed servants would not find them as quickly.

Which plan? Why would the Old Gods want their servants to break into the Black City by lying that they would be found there?

The only thing the Old Gods gained from that enterprise was an army of darkspawn trying to corrupt them and if their intent was for the darkspawn to win then it would have been much more productive to keep lying to prevent Tevinter from mounting up an active defense against the Blight.

It makes far more sense that whoever manipulated the magisters into invading the Black City was pretending to be the Old Gods and once he got the Blight released they were no longer worth his time.

An old theory. It would depend on what month Andraste was conceived. But this would have to ignore the soul cancelation of the final blow.

You are misunderstanding, what survived wasn't the soul of the Old God but rather purified fragments of the taint itself.

The taint is to the Maker what fearlings are to Nightmare, a piece of it's essence operating outside the main body but carrying the same effects.

Not seeing your basis for this. The rune in Trespasser states that Mythal slayed a titan. Not that she imprisoned the creator of the world. If anything, the vision of an orb of fire covered with vines shows some work of Elgar'nan and Mythal.

The titans sealed the Maker, not Mythal and the Evanuris.

What happened is that, because the Evanuris began slaying Titans, their seal over the Maker began to weaken and as the elves dug deeper they eventually bumped into the Maker himself and hauled their asses out of there.

More likely Solas lied about it, as he is known to do.

So he basically wants to blow up the Veil for no reason and his Veil ripping orb was actually made by the Maker?

Now this is just plain denial, I won't even bother with this.

So the Maker is trying to kill all those who might release him? That makes no sense.

What? I never said he was trying to kill those who might release him, I said that he was a life hating mad demon imprisoned at the core of the world and that he needs to corrupt and destroy the Old Gods to break free and taint all the world.

What Andraste met was a purified fragment of the Maker who told her things from his viewpoint and lied to her so he could be seen as a figure worthy of worship.

Because that fragment fell in love with Andraste, the Maker itself began to rethink his hatred for his rebelious creations and in turn became more spirit and less demonic.

However, when Andraste was killed, he gave up on redemption and returned to full demon mode thus driving his darkspawn to kill or corrupt everything.

[Secret Rare]

 

 

To further lead credence to this interpretation, Solas, who wasn't even awake during the blights, seemed to know a great deal about the subject and pointed out the importance the Old Gods had in holding back something even worse than them. This can only mean that something similar happened during his time and that he is terrifyied of whatever is behind them breaking loose.

 

 

Solas never clearly expressed or identified an inherent relevance on the continued existence of the old gods.

In the exchange of remarks with Blackwall he never said that the Old gods are absolutely necessary or important.

He analyze in banter with Cassandra by deconstruction their "divinity" in order to expose its hidden internal assumptions and contradictions and subvert its apparent significance and unity.

 

 

 

 

 

Once we put together the ancient nature of the Blight, the role of the titans in shaping the world to contain it, the power of blood and dragons to confront it and how it keeps whispering about vengeance against the world, we come to a few interesting conclusions.

 

One is that the Maker whom the Chantry preaches as the opposite of the Void and the creator of the Blight is actually the very thing sealed in the heart of Thedas causing it.

 

Given the dual nature between spirits and demons, the Maker being a Spirit of Creation corrupted into a Demon of Void by the betrayal of it's creations could be the source of an intelligent disease which seeks to corrupt or destroy all life on the planet.

 

Assuming that the Origin of Blights is indeed an all powerful demon sealed by the collective power of all titans and that when the Evanuris started killing titans to harvest their power it created holes in it's seal, then the Old Gods could very well be a replacement seal made by Mythal to keep the Maker from breaking free and destroying the world.

 

If Hakkon is any indication, dragons can be made into hosts of powerful spirits to create godlike abominations and the likes of Mythal and Solas could arguably devise seven beings of such to act as a giant barrier while the titans healed from the elves's plunder.

 

This raises into question why would the Old Gods trick the Seven Magisters into releasing the Blight and turning themselves into Arch Demons but perhaps it was never them who talked to ancient humans in the first place.

 

Giving that the Temple of Dumat in Legacy still works despite it's supposed benefactor being long dead, it's possible that the Maker actually impersonated the spirits possessing the dragons to trick the magisters into blowing a hole into his prison.

 

This is supported by the fact that every one of the Old Gods agreed simultaneously to have their followers breach the Black City and they all became silent once the deed was done. This consensus of both actions and objectives are indicative of a single entity acting rather than a group of them.

 

It also explains why they must be corrupted into Archdemons in order to lead the horde, their songs actually suppress the Maker so their beautiful lullaby attracts darkspawn who carry his will to corrupt them.

 

Much like how Corypheus could take over Anders despite him already being possessed by Justice, the Maker can turn the Old Gods into it's thralls to carry out his will against their choice.

 

Not coincidentally, shortly after the First Blight ended, Andraste came to the masses claiming to carry the will of the Maker with herself and that if all joined his chant the the world would be redeemed.

 

It's possible that when Dumat was slain by the wardens and his soul was destroyed, fragments of the Maker's spirit used to corrupt him were purified and later reformed into a consciouss entity met by Andraste.

 

That entity probably told Andraste how he created the world but likely glossed over and changed facts to make her sympathetic to his cause.

 

He hid the fact that it was imprisoned by his own creations and instead created the myth that he had imprisoned spirits who tried to usurp his throne, he also lied about creating the Veil because that would require revealing too much information about the elfs whom he didn't control and he ultimately twisted the perception of the Blight from his demonic manifestation into a curse he made to punish humanity for it's sins.

 

Thus the Maker used Andraste to return his creations into his worship and more or less stopped trying to kill them at least until she died.

 

After she died betrayed and her followers turned the Chant of Light into a political tool to serve their own ends, the Maker went back into full kill 'em all mode and has been unleashing Blight after Blight into what he considers self-serving heretics ever since.

 

How the above affects future Dragon Age games?

 

It basically creates a plot chain linking everything into serial escalation.

 

Solas wants to destroy the Veil to restore ancient elves but he will likely set free the Evanuris and they will proceed to attack the Titans in their quest to obtain unlimited power, the actions of the Evanuris in turn will ultimately set free the Maker and he will taint the entire world before our PC pull a Kratos and stop him.

 

You are mixing things from different cultures and try to develop a theory from whatever belief such cultures had.

Spirits are not creators they are not able to create,a creator cannot be a spirit so the premise of your post is mostly deconstructed by this simple observation.

Saying that the Maker is deep into the core of Thedas is like saying that the Universe itself is contained into one single planet which can't be possible.

If the Maker exist Evanuris would likely be so small in comparison that it would be a miracle for the Maker to even notice them.

[Blood Mage Reaver]

Well...

 

Solas never clearly expressed or identified an inherent relevance on the continued existence of the old gods.

In the exchange of remarks with Blackwall he never said that the Old gods are absolutely necessary or important.

He analyze in banter with Cassandra by deconstruction their "divinity" in order to expose its hidden internal assumptions and contradictions and subvert its apparent significance and unity.

 

You are mixing things from different cultures and try to develop a theory from whatever belief such cultures had.

Spirits are not creators they are not able to create,a creator cannot be a spirit so the premise of your post is mostly deconstructed by this simple observation.

Saying that the Maker is deep into the core of Thedas is like saying that the Universe itself is contained into one single planet which can't be possible.

If the Maker exist Evanuris would likely be so small in comparison that it would be a miracle for the Maker to even notice them.

 

You are narrowing the term spirit to represent just the created, I am considering the Maker as the first intelligent being formed out of raw chaos (like a Boltzmann brain) and who shaped all the rest with it's thoughts.

 

Being born from the raw Fade is what characterizes this view of the Maker as a spirit and being an immensely complex spirit capable of creating shape and purpose out of raw chaos is what makes me entitle him as the sole spirit of creation.

 

Thedas is not the real world, it doesn't follow the same Universe model as ours and it has been shown over and over again that extremely powerful entities in it can reshape the very fabric of reality even miles away from their phisical body.

 

My theory is that the Maker indeed created Thedas with the Titans as his first children but at some point the titans rebelled against him and sealed him inside a massive stone prison the size of a planet, being cast down drove the Maker mad and he turned into a demon with the twisted purpose of corrupting all creation.

 

The Evanuris are indeed no match for the Maker, it took the might of all titans combined to subdue him, what they did was basically kill titan after titan to harvest their power unaware that this actions weakened the prison holding the fallen god and at some point their quest lead them to breach into the prison itself which promptly made the elves to flee for their lives and collapse the passage their have opened.