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[Abraham_uk]

What are your ideas for the 6 classes?

 

Adept

Engineer

Infiltrator

Sentinel

Soldier

Vanguard

[Abraham_uk]

This does make me curious.

[Obliviousmiss]

Well, it's Mass Effect, so I don't expect anything too different. 

 

Just add a jetpack.  

[Onewomanarmy]

Well, it's Mass Effect, so I don't expect anything too different. 

 

Just add a jetpack.

You mean like this:

 

 

[straykat]

My ideas on classes is that they're all kind of boring and I still view the games are mostly shooters.

 

Instead of improvement to skills, I'd like see more situations where classes have content. Like an engineer..... doing engineer-y things.

[Obliviousmiss]

You mean like this:

 

 

 

Omg I snorted out loud at work. 

 

 

My ideas on classes is that they're all kind of boring and I still view the games are mostly shooters.

 

Instead of improvement to skills, I'd like see more situations where classes have content. Like an engineer..... doing engineer-y things.

 

Eh, most people play the default, which is soldier. I think Infiltrator and Vanguard are the most "different" and "non-shootery." 

[iM3GTR]

Engineers should be able to make things like turrets, shield generators, drones (like the ones on Luna and Freedom's Progress-none of this omni-light stuff) and ground to air missiles, among the de facto sabotage, overload, hacking, incinerate and cryo blast.
As StrayKat put it, engineer-y things.

Each should be obtained with branching skill trees so you don't have all of these things at once and be ridiculously overpowered. Plus you could have different builds and playstyles for this class.

I think Engineers were woefully underutilized in the trilogy, mostly because there were too few unique powers that made them especially interesting.

[straykat]

Omg I snorted out loud at work. 

 

 

 

Eh, most people play the default, which is soldier. I think Infiltrator and Vanguard are the most "different" and "non-shootery." 

 

I liked Infiltrator in multiplayer a little more. I don't know why.. maybe because I survived well with it? I didn't find it that necessary in Single Player, over a Soldier.

[Han Shot First]

You mean like this:

 

 

 

Conrad Verner in Andromeda confirmed!

[iM3GTR]

I liked Infiltrator in multiplayer a little more. I don't know why.. maybe because I survived well with it? I didn't find it that necessary in Single Player, over a Soldier.

In single player, you could only really use cloak to get higher damage per sniper shot. In multiplayer you used it more to flank enemies and revive other players and more tactical stuffs.

[Killroy]

I would like much greater customization of power sets and power evolutions to allow each class to fill several different roles.
An Adept should be able to be a crowd control character, a support character or an aggro/caster character.
Etc.

[Fallen_silver]

In term of the base line of classes I find the one in ME:3 were the best we could have gotten but then you comepare them to the one in the multiplayer mode which each had their own design , style and origin. I hope that the ME:A classes option are that of the oen from the multi player of ME:3 and not the single player with more of the whole upgrade system. (http://masseffect.wi...r_Customization)

[NKnight7]

Others have mentioned in the past maybe having some type of medic class to use. That way there's a class that offers healing for the squad and maybe some support as well. I feel like a medic class could be interesting to play as.

[Xerxes52]

I've got a couple ideas.

 

Soldier:

 

Smart Air Burst Grenade. Locks up to four targets and shoots flechettes at targets upon detonation. Flechettes are concentrated if there are fewer targets (i.e. instead of four targets getting hit with 100 flechettes each, one target gets hit with 400 flechettes).

 

Infiltrator:

 

Marker Light. Target is tagged with a beacon that doubles damage against said target. Does not break stealth when used.

 

Engineer:

 

Deployable UGV. Starts with a heavy machine gun, but can upgrade with either a flamethrower (medium-long range liquid flamethrower), multi-missile launcher, or laser CIWS (shoots down enemy rockets, grenades, drones, etc.).

[SKAR]

Vanguard's shockwave should be as strong as biotic slash. It could have been better.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Easy: No more classes. Allow us to freely pick any skill that exists in the game and develop it in the way we want. That way we aren't stuck with some lame, unnecessary skill again.

 

If I want to be a biotic engineer with TacCloak, then let me be one.

[Draining Dragon]

I want the original 6 classes, with the same power distinctions (tech/biotics/combat) from Mass Effect 1.

I have mixed feelings about the weapon restrictions, though. I think the best approach in that regard is to have all weapon types be unlockable for all classes while giving the combat-oriented classes free training in certain types. Specifically:

Vanguards would start with Shotgun training.
Infiltrators would start with Sniper Rifle training.
Soldiers would start with Assault Rifle training (though not Shotgun and Sniper Rifle training as in ME1 and ME2).

All classes, meanwhile, would start with the ability to use Pistols, SMGs, and Heavy Weapons. ME2 had a system a bit like this, where you could unlock a new weapon type or an especially powerful weapon (Claymore, Widow, or Revenant) during one of the Collector missions.

[SKAR]

Easy: No more classes. Allow us to freely pick any skill that exists in the game and develop it in the way we want. That way we aren't stuck with some lame, unnecessary skill again.

If I want to be a biotic engineer with TacCloak, then let me be one.

I want my vanguard to have push and pull. Genius!!!!!!

[SKAR]

I want the original 6 classes, with the same power distinctions (tech/biotics/combat) from Mass Effect 1.

I have mixed feelings about the weapon restrictions, though. I think the best approach in that regard is to have all weapon types be unlockable for all classes while giving the combat-oriented classes free training in certain types. Specifically:

Vanguards would start with Shotgun training.
Infiltrators would start with Sniper Rifle training.
Soldiers would start with Assault Rifle training (though not Shotgun and Sniper Rifle training as in ME1 and ME2).

All classes, meanwhile, would start with the ability to use Pistols, SMGs, and Heavy Weapons. ME2 had a system a bit like this, where you could unlock a new weapon type or an especially powerful weapon (Claymore, Widow, or Revenant) during one of the Collector missions.

God not the gun crap again. Leave that with ME1.

[straykat]

I want my vanguard to have push and pull. Genius!!!!!!

 

Kind of defeats the purpose of the word "vanguard" though

 

I mean, vanguard means the forefront... being in the enemy's face.

[Ahriman]

Personally I'd be okay with old six names, but they could use a lot of tweaking since we are fighting in vast fields now.

Vanguard and Infiltrator would work fine as they are.

Soldier could work as mid range suppressor, but Bioware wants simplest mechanic possible so shooter fans won't get lost in abilities.

Adept could either be close range mass controller or anti-tank cannon, depending on specialization.

Engineers should be able to make things like turrets, shield generators, drones (like the ones on Luna and Freedom's Progress-none of this omni-light stuff) and ground to air missiles, among the de facto sabotage, overload, hacking, incinerate and cryo blast.
As StrayKat put it, engineer-y things.

I love the sound of it. Never was fan of elemental mage and his spherical familiar.

[10K]

I would like them to re-balance Vanguard. Or make the game harder than what we have now.

[Catastrophy]

.... In multiplayer you used it more to flank enemies and revive other players and more tactical stuffs.

Lol, no.

[Abraham_uk]

Class Ideas.

 

Let's bring back specialisations. However with a difference.

Rather than "lets have buffs for this and that" I'd like specialisations to do something different.

 

 

 

Adept Specialisations:

 

Spoiler

 

Bastion: Bastions specialise in use of biotic barriers and protecting allies. They are also proficient in holding enemies in place with stasis fields, weakening foes with a biotic sphere and protecting allies against fires, harmful gasses and even the vacuum of space.

 

Manipulator: Manipulators are the telekinetic specialists. They are best at lifting both people and heavy objects. They can rescue people from burning buildings, prevent unstable structures from collapsing and repelling hostile powers and grenades back at the caster.

 

Nemesis: Nemesis are not about telekinesis or using biotics for protection. They are damage dealing powerhouses. These glass cannons can decimate foes with powerful singularities, tear foes apart with warp projectiles and unleash powerful biotic explosions.

 

Wraith: The wraith is a powerful combatant that messes with peoples minds. They can send groups of enemies into frenzies, cause hallucinations and can even directly control organic units. 

 

Engineer Specialisations:

 

Spoiler

 

Ravager: This is your fire, ice and lightning variant of the Engineer. This version of the engineer is able to ravage large groups of enemies with their powers. In addition they can use damping and sabotage to weaken foes before unleashing various elemental attacks.

 

Puppeteer: Puppeteers are the hacking and drone specialists. They can hack any console, turn AI units against one another and have a variety of drones/turrets for protection, distraction and offence.

 

Mechanist: Bet it repairing vehicles, operating vehicles, operating tactical weapons and artillery, the Mechanist is an incredibly useful member of any squad. They will keep the ship running smoothly, fix faulty consoles saving lives and can upgrade your omnitool to reach it's full potential.

 

Medic: Medics are not normally considered "engineers", however through use of omnitools and a variety of medical technologies, the traditional "doctor" is now a thing of the past. Medics are able to operate complicated medical machines to administer medical treatment from battlefield first aid to curing rare diseases. Their specialised omnitools contains a large codex of complex algorithms that allow for medical scanning and administering multiple types of specialised medigel for different purposes.

 

 

Infiltrator Specialisations:

 

Spoiler

 

Operative: Reconnaissance is the name of the game. Operatives have re-con drones, can scan entire areas, scout ahead and warn people of traps. They are also good at breaking and entering buildings to gather information, performing heists and avoiding combat altogether. A good operative can also prevent the entire squad from being ambushed.

 

Marksman: This is all about sniping foes from afar without being seen. A skilled marksman can take down a foe from two kilometres away. This is not like sniping in Mass Effect 2 and 3, where a pistol or assault rifle would have sufficed. Marksman can snipe at ranges that only sniper rifles can reach. If your target is less than 50 metres away, then any gun in the Mass Effect Universe will be able to do the trick.

 

Shadow: Shadows prefer close ranged silent take down. Killing can be a very messy business. Sometimes knocking out enemies is preferable. However if a target does need assassinating, Shadows excel at that too. They are the most minimalistic of the specialisations. They don't outfit themselves with powerful omnitools and lots of high tech gear since this will most likely make them easy to track. They carry few items and don't tend to wear armour. They are not even glass cannons. If they are spotted they will wind up dead. Their true armour is the shadows, from which they can obtain the element of surprise.

 

Illusionist: Illusionsts are good at using decoys and providing visual and auditory illusions through use of omnitools. These illusions are there to fool enemies enabling tactical flanking or even providing the necessary distraction to enter and leave an area without being seen.

 

 

 

Sentinel Specialisations:

Spoiler

 

Guardian: Guardians are the Tech Armour specialists of the sentinel. They can take the most damage of any specialisation. However they don't just stop there. They have close ranged tech and biotic powers to stagger, weaken and knock down enemies that come their way.

 

Raider: These are very skilled sentinels using biotic and tech powers to disrupt enemy systems, obscure areas of the battle field and deal damage to multiple foes. Outside of battle, raiders can spend their time setting and disarming traps.

 

Paladin: Heavy damage sentinel that uses biotic and tech powers at close ranged to decimate foes.

 

Valkyrie: These are long ranged casters, that use tech and biotic powers to control the battle field. They are ranged damage dealers primarily, however their powers can come in handy in non combat situations such as putting out fires, stopping buildings from collapsing and rescuing people.

 

 

Soldier Specialisations:

Spoiler

Commando: Commandos combine both speed and tactics to take out groups of enemies. To the Commando every shot count. Not one munition is to be wasted. In addition they are able to boost their reaction times with adrenaline rush and stim packs.

 

Shocktrooper: Shock troopers are more durable and can take more hits. Outfitted with tougher shielding and powerful shield modulators to enable quick shield regeneration, as well as powerful melee gauntlets, shocktroopers can get in close and personal to dish out plenty of damage. Shocktroopers are also proficient at drawing attention to themselves.

 

Champion: This is the inspiration of any group. These soldiers focus on getting the most out of their squad. The best power damage, weapon damage, damage resistance etc. They are outfitted with special omnitools that can boost squad performance in all situations. In addition Champions are very charismatic and often serve well in more diplomatic situations.

 

Berserker: Berserker does not mean going full Leroy Jenkins in every situation. This is more of a methodical soldier who plans ahead and waits for the right time to run into the fray. Berserkers are all running and gunning whilst finding decent cover and switching between a variety of ammo types on the fly and lobbing a unique assortment of grenades.

 

 

Vanguard Specialisations:

Spoiler

 

Slayer: The slayer is a charging, melee specialist that can run very fast and perform biotic charge before unleashing a series of biotically infused blows.

 

Hunter: A stealthy biotic caster who can actually use biotics without the blue glow that normally surrounds them. Like the infiltrator specialisations they are outfitted with tactical cloak and have a number of non lethal solutions to dealing with hostiles.

 

Striker: The striker uses their biotics to enhance their shielding, grenades, guns and fists. This is a powerful combatant who can provide warp ammo the entire party and can deal extra damage to foes affected by biotics. In addition, the striker can use their biotically infused hands to knock down doors.

 

Blitzer: Blitzers are good at infusing their biotics into heavy artillery. This is one of the rarer applications of biotics. From heavy weapons to huge cannons in capital war ships, the blitzer is the specialist when it comes to mass destruction. If you bring an entire squadron of ships to the battlefield and one blitzer unleashes a biotically amplified thanix cannon say good by to the entire squadron. If you feel this is overpowered, remember that most of the space faring races in Andromeda have at least one Blitzer in every warship.

 

 

So what do you think of these specialisations?

[Sailears]

I would certainly like there to be a much greater role for Control and Support playstyles.

 

Unfortunately, me3mp gameplay was almost exclusively about damage, regardless of class. Powers like pull, stasis, lash, ai hacking (on geth/atlas) and so on were vastly inferior to simply unloading damage, especially on gold/platinum and when players wanted to be most efficient.

 

This problem is also due to enemy health/armour/shield design and the ability of certain enemies to totally ignore crowd control beyond basic stagger - I believe this system is extremely crude and instead should be modified to a continuous scale. An adept should be able to lift something like an atlas mech, perhaps with charging up the power and then with a greater cost to cooldown or energy resource. There should be no limitations, only penalties for over extending, whether biotic/tech or other powers.

 

Sure I don't want it to go back to the crazy overpowered ME1 where you could open a singularity in a room and instantly cc everything, however I don't want the nonsense of ME3 where for example armour totally negates crowd control.

 

We should be able to manipulate the environment as well.

 

I would also like for the option NOT to use a weapon - for example on biotics, and have suitable enhancements/benefits for doing so. Perhaps further reduced cooldowns, greater power output, charge up mechanics, and so on.