Exactly. They should start over with the plot and make it more of a grand adventure of your life like The Hobbit or Star Trek.
At this point there isn't enough time to start over anything, unless there a big time extension.
Beside, I don't think a The Hobbit type of plot would work in Andromeda.
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Leaving aside the marketing odour (I'm wearing a gas mask):
1. -$60 = $80CDN price point in 2017?
2 .- "...Frostbite’s Technical Director Johan Andersson wished to require Windows 10/DirectX 12 as the minimum specification...". If so, many PC windows players are out (I have Win 7).
3. - Andromeda may become a trilogy... that's good
4. -The Khet or their replacements are our main enemy. Well, we need an opponent for combat.
5. -"...explore a planet-dense but seamless open-world galaxy, rich with discovery....". More marketing blah. Notice the packed adverbs in the sentence. What does "planet-dense" even mean? "open-world galaxy" ???? This sentence is designed to stimulate the imagination but provides no actual information. Sounds interesting, though.
6. -"... intense third-person shooter, with deep progression and customization systems..." I suppose "tepid 3rd person shooter" is a no-no and "deep progression".... I just Knew It!!!.. that marketing would use that word. Does this mean we dive into the main story arc? The character's leveling up system? Exploring a dense forest with the Mako? Meaningless crap without context... "customization systems" = change the Mako's colour scheme?, change our armour's boots? Same as in ME1-3?
7. -The description for a possible future version is interesting.... reminds me of the Wing Commander series and the Kilrathi's fear of a more powerful evil race than humanity.
8. -Nothing about the CC or hair for that matter.
9. -Nothing about Multiplayer.
10. -Nothing about PAUSE(ing) during combat.
11. -Nothing about AI or tactical combat.
12. -Nothing on romance
Guess more is coming during EA Play
Milky Way's species try to survive and there's nothing wrong about this, but if it's at the expense of other natives species from Andromeda, I have a problem with that.
Survival vs. inconveniencing someone else is still a no brainer.
Exactly. They should start over with the plot and make it more of a grand adventure of your life like The Hobbit or Star Trek.
At least having the first game being us becaming the leader of the team! I always thought it would have been more interesting playng how Shepard became a N7 and what she did to be choosen as a Spectre, than basically half the plot of the trilogy. Instead the interesting part was relegated to few presentation words at the start of the frist game 
The feeling of our characters earning their power/army is something I don't feel by the time of DAO.
It was obvious they wouldn't talk of points 8-12 in a marketing survey, well maybe MP.
I don't think there is just one alien species in Andromeda taking space, that wouldn't make sense to me.
I'd like see multiple factions of new aliens in the Andromeda galaxy. They'd have different opinions on the Milky Way immigrants and how to handle them. I think it could be interesting to see the Milkies earning a place over time and the interest of the various factions with the most pull whilst handling the difficulties and possibily sabotaged attempted by the factions that dislike or distrust them.
I'd like for the Milkies to be the underdog in the Andromeda society who has to earn their status and try to on to what hard-fought status they gain while dealing with the disadvantages that comes from being the underdog.
At least having the first game being us becaming the leader of the team! I always thought it would have been more interesting playng how Shepard became a N7 and what she did to be choosen as a Spectre, than basically half the plot of the trilogy. Instead the interesting part was relegated to few presentation words at the start of the frist game
The feeling of our characters earning their power/army is something I don't feel by the time of DAO.
I agree on having the first game/part of it about becoming the leader of the team...but we didn't really earn our power in DAO. We just got it because the other Wardens were dead and Alistair doesn't like to be in charge. We did build up an army, but that can happen regardless if we start as the leader of the team.
2 .- "...Frostbite’s Technical Director Johan Andersson wished to require Windows 10/DirectX 12 as the minimum specification...". If so, many PC windows players are out (I have Win 7).
That's gonna be a problem for me, so far the insistence from Microsoft that I should upgrade my windows did nothing but make me extremely wary and suspicious.
Most of the reviews I saw about windows 10 just made me even more reluctant to use it.
I think we might see more then one alien species, though the (main?) enemy one would likely only one.
They said he wished to. It seems his desire didn't happen.
I agree on having the first game/part of it about becoming the leader of the team...but we didn't really earn our power in DAO. We just got it because the other Wardens were dead and Alistair doesn't like to be in charge. We did build up an army, but that can happen regardless if we start as the leader of the team.
In DAO or you worked hard to have the allies, the old papers weren't enought, since the various factions refused to help if their own problems weren't resolved. So the Warden had to work hard to get her army. Plus, you had played how you had been choosen to became a Warden, and worked to became one too. The feeling was of earning the various stuff and position by the end of the game.
In DAO or you worked hard to have the allies, the old papers weren't enought, since the various factions refused to help if their own problems weren't resolved. So the Warden had to work hard to get her army. Plus, you had played how you had been choosen to became a Warden, and worked to became one too. The feeling was of earning the various stuff and position by the end of the game.
The working hard to get allies can happen in Andromeda too.
Fair enough, and I do agree that it felt like that. I just meant the leader position wasn't really earnt.
We still don't know if there'll be a prologue/starting point where we do earn the position of leadership in the team. And while the marketing survey did say we lead the team, it might happen that we're not the leader at the start of the game.
I put it as an example and they should've been coming up with the original story why you travel to Andromeda. Like you travel to this Galaxy simply to explore, learn new history, have dangerous events more adventurous, etc. It doesn't have to be the typical Western Sci-Fi superhero story is what I'm saying.At this point there isn't enough time to start over anything, unless there a big time extension.
Beside, I don't think a The Hobbit type of plot would work in Andromeda.
I put it as an example and they should've been coming up with the original story why you travel to Andromeda. Like you travel to this Galaxy simply to explore, learn new history, have dangerous events more adventurous, etc. It doesn't have to be the typical Western Sci-Fi superhero story is what I'm saying.
I understand your point, and while I think the travel from MW to Andromeda was done for escaping the Reapers, the plot of the game could've been different.
The working hard to get allies can happen in Andromeda too.
Fair enough, and I do agree that it felt like that. I just meant the leader position wasn't really earnt.
We still don't know if there'll be a prologue/starting point where we do earn the position of leadership in the team. And while the marketing survey did say we lead the team, it might happen that we're not the leader at the start of the game.
I'm hoping we do not start out as the leader of team and that we would have a fair amount of time before we become the leader but I think I could deal with it being early in the game if we are growing into the leadership role and our crew as well as others are still uncertain about our ability to lead and question us from time to time. Basically in the latter scenario, we wind up the leader of the team but we have to earn the trust of our team and not through only a single mission. It would be nice if this comes into play with similar consequences to the Suicide Mission from Mass Effect 2.
I do not want us to have the same freedom that Shepard seemed to have. At least not at first. If we are in the military, create consequences for disobedience or choices our superiors disagree with when we are on military assignments.
The working hard to get allies can happen in Andromeda too.
Fair enough, and I do agree that it felt like that. I just meant the leader position wasn't really earnt.
We still don't know if there'll be a prologue/starting point where we do earn the position of leadership in the team. And while the marketing survey did say we lead the team, it might happen that we're not the leader at the start of the game.
Yes, the leader position was more a case of "there is no one else, so you'll have to do it". Than is in the hand of the player if said position was a good or bad thing 
guess part of the fun was making a character that deserved the role or really the worst leader ever.
Still better than having from the start a pre-made hero like Shepard, in my opinion.
I really hope for the chance to make our character grow in Andromeda, and not having her/him ready and all.
Finally, something about the plot... Not that it's something we didn't already know. Could be fake, could be real. Regardless, I'm buying.
I'd like see multiple factions of new aliens in the Andromeda galaxy. They'd have different opinions on the Milky Way immigrants and how to handle them. I think it could be interesting to see the Milkies earning a place over time and the interest of the various factions with the most pull whilst handling the difficulties and possibily sabotaged attempted by the factions that dislike or distrust them.
I'd like for the Milkies to be the underdog in the Andromeda society who has to earn their status and try to on to what hard-fought status they gain while dealing with the disadvantages that comes from being the underdog.
I think I'll use this now on when talking about Milky Wayan aliens 
"Mass Effect: Andromeda takes players to the Andromeda galaxy, far beyond the Milky Way, where players will lead the fight for a new home in hostile territory - where WE are the aliens - opposed by a deadly indigenous race bent on stopping us.
So we're doing the Native vs Foreigner story, a story that has been told dozens or hundreds of times in entertainment media.
"Experience the freedom to traverse and explore a planet-dense but seamless open-world galaxy, rich with discovery. Play as the leader of a squad of military-trained experts in an intense third-person shooter, with deep progression and customisation systems.
Sounds a lot like Shepard 2.0, which is funny since Bioware said they weren't going to do that. Also it's being marketed as a third person shooter game with RPG elements rather than an action role-playing game with shooter elements? That's not a good sign.
"This is the story of humanity's next chapter, and player choices throughout the game will ultimately determine our survival in the Andromeda galaxy."
"There is a major battle brewing, and it awaits you. It is unfolding across a galaxy of planets, with creatures and species entirely unknown. Draw your weapon, because the fight is bigger than you thought. It's not just for your own life, it's for all humanity - the ultimate battle for a place we can all call home."
Ugh, so it's definitely looking like it's going to be full of human-centric nonsense.
I was just reading this on the presse !
It seems we will have difficult choices to do, I think making us the "bad guy" is pretty cool (and very logical, Andromeda is not our home) but as a person who play mainly Paragon, I hope I won't be forced to do very ugly things to the new species. As I was thinking since the start, it seems the aliens from Andromeda will just try to protect their home from us, colonists.
BioWare, please, do something great with the choices and if possible propose us a large range of answers to deal with hard situations, that's all I ask. Thanks.
Given Bioware's track record, I think humanity will come into conflict when trying to colonize space that already has a claim to it, but we won't be the "bad guys" because the aliens already there are warlike and itching for a fight anyway. So they will attack first and not try to negotiate, thereby "justifying" our conflict with them and colonizing their space as spoils of a just war.
Considering nature of Ark Project, I'd expect everyone selected for Ark to be worthy. Military specialists, science specialists, janitor specialists and so on. Everyone is special.
Maybe we'll get a Roger Wilco cameo.
Because an entire galaxy is a huge space and is not equivalent to your backyard, and while I understand the logic of reasonable rights on stars that are
close to your home planet, if someone goes and settles a an empty unclaimed ball of rock somewhere, that seems to me like a reasonable non-hostile action.
ME has already shown humanity coming into conflict with aliens who had prior claim to planets. The conflict with batarians in the Attican Traverse show this.
Plus, if humanity is fighting for survival with limited supplies, are they really going to spend resources on scouting habitable planets out of an entirely new galaxy when it would be more efficient and effective to try and colonize the first location they come across? It could take years to find habitable planets which don't already have some form of intelligent life on them, or at least take a lot of effort to bioform them and make them habitable. But by "sharing" with aliens they can identify all known planets and just colonize those locations.
They should have thrown in the towel (like Hudson planned) and made a new sci-fi franchise. Would that have been so bad?
I'm honestly treating MEA as a new franchise with many similar aspects to the ME trilogy. I don't see it as ME4 or anything. So regardless of what the game turns out to be, I'm not going to try to consider it a continuation of the story. That story has ended and this is a new one, inspired by the foundation set by the trilogy.
By the universal law of dibs, of course.
Sadly, it's a galaxy law, not universal. Andromeda doesn't recognize the law so humanity is fully within their right to take anything they see!
So we're doing the Native vs Foreigner story, a story that has been told dozens or hundreds of times in entertainment media.
Sounds a lot like Shepard 2.0, which is funny since Bioware said they weren't going to do that. Also it's being marketed as a third person shooter game with RPG elements rather than an action role-playing game with shooter elements? That's not a good sign.
Ugh, so it's definitely looking like it's going to be full of human-centric nonsense.
So many negative opinions about a tiny survey leak. No wonder the devs don't post here anymore.
Can everyone take a chill pill? We know next to nothing about the game. At least have some hope.
Eat a snickers.
Much better.
So many negative opinions about a tiny survey leak. No wonder the devs don't post here anymore.
Can everyone take a chill pill? We know next to nothing about the game. At least have some hope.
That's actually really tame compared to some other hate they got from others about some of their decisions.
I prefer chill strips.
Sadly, it's a galaxy law, not universal. Andromeda doesn't recognize the law so humanity is fully within their right to take anything they see!
I'm not so sure: it is referred to as the most powerful force in the universe when used to claim possesion of an object or an idea by a dictionary. If they've already claimed dibs infinity, humanity will need something that trumps that dibs and there are so few things that can do that: I mean, it is dibs infinity.
I can't wait to give the Sovereign speech via a hologram to some snotty little inferior race we are about to conquer and whose world humanity is about to take over. Mwa ha ha !
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