We don't actually know if Flemeth/Mythal is dead, or if she's hitchhiking inside of Solas, or if she sent part of herself elsewhere through the Eluvian in her last scene. This is the woman who says "Why must I be in only one place?" and "Bodies are so limiting.".
Exactly. Plus I doubt she would just give up to Solas when earlier she makes it sound like she has her own plans.
He should saw this as an opportunity to start over with someone he loves, and if I were him I would've told her the truth after Corypheus was defeated. He can settle down to a new place with the elves to start over, instead of tearing down the Veil and he will screw everything up again. What's done is done and he should see that the best thing he can do is to find a new place and leave it that.
He did see it that way at one point. Solas almost gives up his plans so he could stay with Lavellan. He was going to tell her the truth and abandon his plan when he took her to the wyvern nest, but he panicked and told her about the Vallaslin instead. He was ready to lose himself in her--forget his mission--then realizes he can't lest he betray himself.
Im starting to believe Mythal was at one time one of the good hearted gods that went dark and vengeful and only cares about revenge. her rant in the fade showed me that. I think she is someone we should be worried about. And not "oh is she going to be ok" but " God i hope she doesnt or didnt plan on using that kids old god soul to wreck havoc" Course solas thinks what hes about to do will do that anyway so i guess it wont really matter. Either way thedas is about to be shaken to its bones. Darkspawn was the least of their worries. They was just he obsticals of the real threat to come
He should've let it go. It's over it's done. Why claim a past that bring nothing but misery and death? He should've realized that he should forgive himself and find peace within himself in order to move on with his life. He would've found a better way to make life better for all elves, but not the whole "destroy everything" plan.He did see it that way at one point. Solas almost gives up his plans so he could stay with Lavellan. He was going to tell her the truth and abandon his plan when he took her to the wyvern nest, but he panicked and told her about the Vallaslin instead. He was ready to lose himself in her--forget his mission--then realizes he can't lest he betray himself.
He should've let it go. It's over it's done. Why claim a past that bring nothing but misery and death? He should've realized that he should forgive himself and find peace within himself in order to move on with his life. He would've found a better way to make life better for all elves, but not the whole "destroy everything" plan.
We know. He probably knows it too, deep inside. But if it was in his character to make the right decisions, the whole Thedas would be very different. It's the "tragic flaw" that is a staple of many heroes and villains in the classic plays and makes the conflict go on.
Understandable.We know. He probably knows it too, deep inside. But if it was in his character to make the right decisions, the whole Thedas would be very different. It's the "tragic flaw" that is a staple of many heroes and villains in the classic plays and makes the conflict go on.
Understandable.
"Alas. So long as the music plays, we dance."
So Solas is choosing the worst options of Mass Effect 3. Yay.
Wait, how is him not doing anything the same as Refuse? I'd say that is more the Destroy choice than him continuing his plan is. Or did you mean it that way?
Well, all I meant was that Solas chose to destroy the Evanuris (he did the best he could at any rate) rather than do nothing and let everyone die. At least, that's the impression the players have been given at this point. It was a sadistic choice.
Also I think those are the best endings from ME3, because any ending with the Reapers still existing is automatically worse for me 
Seeing how the titan was uncomfortable with the breach i argued that the world of the elves could have been just a world suited for their needs no different from modern cities which are functional for our needs.
I didn't get the impression it was uncomfortable, I just thought it was waking from hibernation because of the newfound reconnection to the fade. I don't remember that DLC perfectly though, so I could be wrong.
That said, I would argue that it perhaps doesn't extend farther though. Solas raised the Veil to separate reality from the world of dreams. The Fade is something that touches all life, and thus the Veil is also connected to everyone living. It is one thing to create such a magical construct that affects a continent and the surrounding areas, but it is another thing entirely to have it affect the entire world.
Actually it may not be another thing entirely. The veil is described as more of a metaphysical barrier and a barrier of perception than a physical one. This is magic we're talking about too, keep in mind, so I could totally see it just as easily (perhaps even more easily) affecting the entire world rather than some of it.
A good person knows when to stop and a good person knows what is wrong and not to do it at all. It just seems to me that the writers were just plain 'ol lazy of not giving Solas a happy ending he deserves, but instead they made him another Corypheus who wants to tear down the Veil. Even if he succeeded it would all be for nothing because the elven gods would wreak havoc and kill him and all of this would be for nothing. *sighs* They could've wrote it better than that.
That... is a very limited view of Solas, in my opinion. People are complicated in real life, and Solas being complicated (and appearing contradictory) is not unrealistic at all. They can do wrong things for the right reasons, and even right things for the wrong reasons, and anywhere in between. And if you think Solas is just another Corypheus, I think you missed a lot of his character. He is a foil to Corypheus. Some similarities, yes, but he is designed to mirror him much more than emulate him. And that was done on purpose, so I wouldn't call it lazy writing.
Im starting to believe Mythal was at one time one of the good hearted gods that went dark and vengeful and only cares about revenge. her rant in the fade showed me that. I think she is someone we should be worried about. And not "oh is she going to be ok" but " God i hope she doesnt or didnt plan on using that kids old god soul to wreck havoc" Course solas thinks what hes about to do will do that anyway so i guess it wont really matter. Either way thedas is about to be shaken to its bones. Darkspawn was the least of their worries. They was just he obsticals of the real threat to come
I think Mythal is being set up to be a loose foil for Solas, so I think she'll be on the "mostly good" end of the spectrum. So far, she's shown much more adaptable to change than Solas, and still considers the modern elves to be "The People".
Well, all I meant was that Solas chose to destroy the Evanuris (he did the best he could at any rate) rather than do nothing and let everyone die. At least, that's the impression the players have been given at this point. It was a sadistic choice.
Ah, I see. You were referring to what he did in the past. I thought you were referring to what he was doing now.
Also, I'm assuming you mean it was a statistic choice, not a sadistic choice. 
I think Mythal is being set up to be a loose foil for Solas, so I think she'll be on the "mostly good" end of the spectrum. So far, she's shown much more adaptable to change than Solas, and still considers the modern elves to be "The People".
This whole conversation gave me pause about mythal herself intentions. I began to wonder after thst if maybe she had something bad planned. Again. Why does she need an old gods soul.... It's all hinkey to me. Heh. Convo starts at around 5:20
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Whatever her plan is, it doesn't require an Old God soul since the Old God soul being around isn't a universal thing.
Also. It is a universal thing. Would be no blight or archdemon otherwise. I thought that was pretty clear.
No, I mean Urthemiel's soul still being around is not a universal thing. We can destroy it in Dragon Age: Origins at the expense of the life of a Warden.
Well it has a purpose and it wasnt just for a filler spot in the story. I mean.... Its an ol god soul... Far as i understand old gods and the elven gods hate each other so... Idk Either way. It means something to me so i anticipate seeing it run its course
Well it has a purpose and it wasnt just for a filler spot in the story. I mean.... Its an ol god soul... Far as i understand old gods and the elven gods hate each other so... Idk Either way. It means something to me so i anticipate seeing it run its course
You're going to be disappointed. Bioware has repeatedly said that the Old God soul won't play a major part in future games since it is an optional thing.
It was something people have wanted to see addressed for years, so Bioware addressed it. It just didn't amount to much, and instead it was Kieren who was more important than Urthemiel when it came to the Old God Baby. It tied off a plot thread.
A large group of the fan base never cared about the Ogb nosense and now it is finally gone.It was something people have wanted to see addressed for years, so Bioware addressed it. It just didn't amount to much, and instead it was Kieren who was more important than Urthemiel when it came to the Old God Baby. It tied off a plot thread.
It's just the way I see it. The way he talks to her like a robot with no regard for life or her well being, the way he left her to her fate with the mark that's killing her like "Well it's been a ride! See ya when I see ya!" It's so poorly written the way he just disregards her. But it's just how I see itThat... is a very limited view of Solas, in my opinion. People are complicated in real life, and Solas being complicated (and appearing contradictory) is not unrealistic at all. They can do wrong things for the right reasons, and even right things for the wrong reasons, and anywhere in between. And if you think Solas is just another Corypheus, I think you missed a lot of his character. He is a foil to Corypheus. Some similarities, yes, but he is designed to mirror him much more than emulate him. And that was done on purpose, so I wouldn't call it lazy writing.
A large group of the fan base never cared about the Ogb nosense and now it is finally gone.
Last I checked, they wasnt the only fans in existence. It gets on my nerves sometimes how people feel they somehow have rights over others based on number. The dragon god story to me would have been a cooler story than the titans. I really didnt like decent. I thought it was boring and i wasnt impressed with the story but im not demanding it go away amirite? Sigh. I guess us little guys who like things others dont will hush so the larger group can have the story they want and so they can talk us down we we talk about liking it.
It's just the way I see it. The way he talks to her like a robot with no regard for life or her well being, the way he left her to her fate with the mark that's killing her like "Well it's been a ride! See ya when I see ya!" It's so poorly written the way he just disregards her. But it's just how I see it
Wait, when did Solas leave her to her fate with the mark killing her? In the main game it was stable and in Trespasser he removes it before leaving.
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