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[midnight tea]

DA4 could occur many years after the events of Trespasser. I have thought about the inquisitor growing old - despite his/her efforts to find Solas to no avail. It sounds really crappy, I know, but Thedas needs a break for a least 50 years after the events of the previous games. It would be a perfect time for something to occur that would impact the name of the next age. All new characters with no returning characters - I would miss them though  . 

 

Solas can bide his time. 

 

... I don't really think he can. There are hints in the game suggesting that time's running out OR a special time or event to accomplish something is going to happen fairly soon. IMO I don't think it'd take more than 5 years for the entire thing (DA4 plot at least) to be resolved, or even less than that (*especially* given that events of DA4 were initially supposed to be part of DA3).

 

Plus, the whole "could one thing in this f**** world just stay fixed!?" has been directly addressed in Trespasser, and the answer is - apparently - a resounding NO.

 

Basically, if you live in Thedas... well, sad day for you

[IllustriousT]

... I don't really think he can. There are hints in the game suggesting that time's running out OR a special time or event to accomplish something is going to happen fairly soon. IMO I don't think it'd take more than 5 years for the entire thing (DA4 plot at least) to be resolved, or even less than that (*especially* given that events of DA4 were initially supposed to be part of DA3).

 

Plus, the whole "could one thing in this f**** world just stay fixed!?" has been directly addressed in Trespasser, and the answer is - apparently - a resounding NO.

 

Basically, if you live in Thedas... well, sad day for you

 

 I suppose you could be right - and I certainly don't want it to be too far into the future. Apart from that, I forget that Solas already had the 2 years between end game and Trespasser to begin making plans. 

 

Either way - I am SO excited for whatever Bioware throws our way. As long as the sewers, bandit hideout, and the Chantry don't end up being the same place. 

[CardButton]

DA4 could occur many years after the events of Trespasser. I have thought about the inquisitor growing old - despite his/her efforts to find Solas to no avail. It sounds really crappy, I know, but Thedas needs a break for a least 50 years after the events of the previous games. It would be a perfect time for something to occur that would impact the name of the next age. All new characters with no returning characters - I would miss them though  . 

 

Solas can bide his time. 

Doubtful.  We're talking about the same Solas who was so Impatient to break into the Fade and Bring down the Veil that rather than waiting for his strength to return, he gave his Orb to Cory and attempting to trick the big doofus into opening the way into the Fade for him.  This is the same Solas that openly admitted that if the Orb had not been destroyed at the end of the final battle he would have taken it and used it to bring down the Fade himself, the moment he had the chance.

 

Even if Solas weren't aging while out of a state of Uthenera while in this world split by the Veil (which I actually assume he and the other remaining Ancient Elven are, otherwise there would be no reason to remain in that sleep state for such extended periods of time) do you really think he'd wait 50+ years to put his plan into action, knowing everything we know about his character?  Do you really think that he'd tell the Inquisitor his plan and then follow that up by giving them and the powers of the world 50 years to try and find some way to stop him?  

 

I really truly doubt it and my guess, we're looking at a time frame for the end of the world that is no greater than around 4-5 years (more realistically like 2-3). 

[nightscrawl]

DA4 could occur many years after the events of Trespasser. I have thought about the inquisitor growing old - despite his/her efforts to find Solas to no avail. It sounds really crappy, I know, but Thedas needs a break for a least 50 years after the events of the previous games. It would be a perfect time for something to occur that would impact the name of the next age. All new characters with no returning characters - I would miss them though .

Solas can bide his time.

I'm sure someone here has the actual quote, but didn't Weekes or someone say that Lavellan would eventually get closure? Trespasser sure wasn't it. Also, as I mentioned above, the post-credit cinematic really tells so much: the Inquisitor will be invested or involved in some capacity, we will be heading north (possibly into Tevinter), Dorian, who gets the magister position AND comes back in Trespasser regardless of player action in the base game is quite likely to feature, and the fact that we still have about half of the original plot of DAI to get through (as per David Gaider), really seems to suggest that the next game will be taking place in a few years' time, certainly less than ten.

 

As far as no returning characters, the drastic change of setting appears to be a way for them to wipe the slate clean as far as cameos and carryovers go. Sure, they can stick in whomever they want, but there really isn't any reason for, well, pretty much everyone to be there. The only people I expect to see are Solas, Dorian, and possibly Charter or Harding as Inquisition liaison. (At this time, I'm not counting characters from ancillary materials, like Maevaris, since I'm only referring to previous game carryovers).

[IllustriousT]

^^ Narratively, it wouldn't be ideal - especially for the fans to not begin just a few years after Trespasser. When I make large leaps like in my post, it is not due to the story, it is due to game design aspects that I've notice with the gaming developer decisions. I concentrated in game design in my college major, and there are so many aspects about story continuations and branching that become problematic. I tend to, at times,  look at things more 'logistically.'  So, it becomes a possibility, albeit not an ideal one for most of us. 

 

 

Doubtful.  We're talking about the same Solas who was so Impatient to break into the Fade and Bring down the Veil that rather than waiting for his strength to return, he gave his Orb to Cory and attempting to trick the big doofus into opening the way into the Fade for him.  This is the same Solas that openly admitted that if the Orb had not been destroyed at the end of the final battle he would have taken it and used it to bring down the Fade himself, the moment he had the chance.

 

Even if Solas weren't aging while out of a state of Uthenera while in this world split by the Veil (which I actually assume he and the other remaining Ancient Elven are, otherwise there would be no reason to remain in that sleep state for such extended periods of time) do you really think he'd wait 50+ years to put his plan into action, knowing everything we know about his character?  Do you really think that he'd tell the Inquisitor his plan and then follow that up by giving them and the powers of the world 50 years to try and find some way to stop him?  

 

I really truly doubt it and my guess, we're looking at a time frame for the end of the world that is no greater than around 4-5 years (more realistically like 2-3). 

 

We know through various sources, that time was different for the ancient elves - I don't think Solas is sundered from his spirit self, and therefore time can be meaningless to enact on a more efficient plan. I do think Solas would confide in the Inquisitor and let him/her live, especially if the resulting consequences are rendered pointless by time. I am not saying that I believe this to be the case, but that they are possibilities that I have thought of .

 

 

I'm sure someone here has the actual quote, but didn't Weekes or someone say that Lavellan would eventually get closure? Trespasser sure wasn't it. Also, as I mentioned above, the post-credit cinematic really tells so much: the Inquisitor will be invested or involved in some capacity, we will be heading north (possibly into Tevinter), Dorian, who gets the magister position AND comes back in Trespasser regardless of player action in the base game is quite likely to feature, and the fact that we still have about half of the original plot of DAI to get through (as per David Gaider), really seems to suggest that the next game will be taking place in a few years' time, certainly less than ten.

 

As far as no returning characters, the drastic change of setting appears to be a way for them to wipe the slate clean as far as cameos and carryovers go. Sure, they can stick in whomever they want, but there really isn't any reason for, well, pretty much everyone to be there. The only people I expect to see are Solas, Dorian, and possibly Charter or Harding as Inquisition liaison. (At this time, I'm not counting characters from ancillary materials, like Maevaris, since I'm only referring to previous game carryovers).

 

I really hope Lavellan gets more closure - I would scream with delight!

 

I agree, the set up with the other characters does certainly imply they will be involved in DA4 - but it wouldn't be the first time I was expecting one thing only for a totally different outcome to happen. 

[CardButton]

^^ Narratively, it wouldn't be ideal - especially for the fans to not begin just a few years after Trespasser. When I make large leaps like in my post, it is not due to the story, it is due to game design aspects that I've notice with the gaming developer decisions. I concentrated in game design in my college major, and there are so many aspects about story continuations and branching that become problematic. I tend to, at times,  look at things more 'logistically.'  So, it becomes a possibility, albeit not an ideal one for most of us. 

 

We know through various sources, that time was different for the ancient elves - I don't think Solas is sundered from his spirit self, and therefore time can be meaningless to enact on a more efficient plan. I do think Solas would confide in the Inquisitor and let him/her live, especially if the resulting consequences are rendered pointless by time. I am not saying that I believe this to be the case, but that they are possibilities that I have thought of .

To be honest if the setting actually is Tevinter it wont matter what time frame the events of the next game go down in.  

 

The distance between the north and the south is so vast that the events of DA:I and its precursors will hold very little influence over events that occur there, even if you were to exclude the very strained relationship Tevinter has with the southern world.  At most, with or without the Inquisitor PC's return, we'd get Dorian, Marius + Tessa, maybe Calpernia and if we needed a more direct representative of the Inquisition (since Dorian is no longer reprising that role) we'd probably get Scout Harding.  That's all the crossover that need be in terms of character, even less for past events.   

As for "timeframe" for Solas, he may be ageless himself like you said, but the members of his agents and spy network assuredly aren't.  Unless he want's to switch them out on occasion and have new ones trained as replacement, dragging around a perpetually aging group of informants and spies would be a real pain in the ass for him.  If he wants to keep his information network intact he's restricted by their life-spans, not his own.

[IllustriousT]

To be honest if the setting actually is Tevinter it wont matter what time frame the events of the next game go down in.  

 

The distance between the north and the south is so vast that the events of DA:I and its precursors will hold very little influence over events that occur there, even if you were to exclude the very strained relationship Tevinter has with the southern world.  At most, with or without the Inquisitor PC's return, we'd get Dorian, Marius + Tessa, maybe Calpernia and if we needed a more direct representative of the Inquisition (since Dorian is no longer reprising that role) we'd probably get Scout Harding.  That's all the crossover that need be in terms of character, even less for past events.   

As for "timeframe" for Solas, he may be ageless himself like you said, but the members of his agents and spy network assuredly aren't.  Unless he want's to switch them out on occasion and have new ones trained as replacement, dragging around a perpetually aging group of informants and spies would be a real pain in the ass for him.  If he wants to keep his information network intact he's restricted by their life-spans, not his own.

 

 

 You will receive no argument from me on that one.

 

Edited to add after thought: Unless he uses the crossroads. I don't think time matters there.  The elves could build lives there until the right time - just a crazy thought though. In my imagination - that looks ridiculous, but it could work. 

[Abyss108]

I'm sure someone here has the actual quote, but didn't Weekes or someone say that Lavellan would eventually get closure? Trespasser sure wasn't it. Also, as I mentioned above, the post-credit cinematic really tells so much: the Inquisitor will be invested or involved in some capacity, we will be heading north (possibly into Tevinter), Dorian, who gets the magister position AND comes back in Trespasser regardless of player action in the base game is quite likely to feature, and the fact that we still have about half of the original plot of DAI to get through (as per David Gaider), really seems to suggest that the next game will be taking place in a few years' time, certainly less than ten.

 

As far as no returning characters, the drastic change of setting appears to be a way for them to wipe the slate clean as far as cameos and carryovers go. Sure, they can stick in whomever they want, but there really isn't any reason for, well, pretty much everyone to be there. The only people I expect to see are Solas, Dorian, and possibly Charter or Harding as Inquisition liaison. (At this time, I'm not counting characters from ancillary materials, like Maevaris, since I'm only referring to previous game carryovers).

 

 

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[German Soldier]

No? Hawke had one scene with Corytheus, not an entire game, and also didn't know Cory was still around to need stopping. So nothing alike.

Hawke and Corypheus were connected to some extent and the magister started to hunt Hawke and the Amell family for their blood

I  think they planned to use Hawke as the Inquisitor given how this character was connected to the mages-templars conflict but then the character story arc was interrupted.

 

There are many millions of people all throughout Thedas content to live as they have been living*. I don't think that Solas has the right to determine the fate of all of those millions of people just because HE thinks they are somehow deprived, or not living up to their potential, or whatever other thought process. I don't think he alone gets to make that decision, no matter how old he is, no matter where he comes from.

 

This is really the main issue I have with Solas's viewpoint. Sure, he wants to restore "his people," whoever those are; I get that. He feels guilty for his previous actions, and for his possible future actions; I get that too. But what I cannot accept is the reasoning that it is somehow justified because he feels like he's walking around in a world of lobotomy victims. (Yes, I have seen that phrasing used in Solas discussions.) People have been living with the Veil in place for thousands of years. Did it never occur to Solas that perhaps people in general -- yes, even mages -- are accustomed to this existence, and that bringing down the Veil will be as chaotic for them as raising it was for his people all those millennia ago?

 

 

 

* I am of course referring to living in relation to the Veil being in place, not about living in poverty, or under oppression, or whatever other terrible circumstance, that, incidentally, we know also existed under the evanuris.

Which is indeed my perspective,what he think he is to decide for everyone?

He did that already in the past that's enough.

[German Soldier]

 

As for "timeframe" for Solas, he may be ageless himself like you said, but the members of his agents and spy network assuredly aren't.  Unless he want's to switch them out on occasion and have new ones trained as replacement, dragging around a perpetually aging group of informants and spies would be a real pain in the ass for him.  If he wants to keep his information network intact he's restricted by their life-spans, not his own.

He had Felassan as ally he can have other ancient elves at disposal that are ageless like him.

[Xerrai]

If I were Solas I would gather elves who wants leave Thedas and liberate the elven slaves from the Imperium, then I would destroy all eluvians so the humans, and darkspawn will not follow, and get them all to another world to start over. I start by teaching them everything about elven history and the downfall of the ancient elves to teach the people to never again repeat history. Then I would set up a healing process by teaching elves meditation for healing themselves mentally & spirituality, then I would set up a system of unity among families, love one another, and build up structures of agriculture, libraries, schools, and houses. It would be a better alternative course than tearing down the Veil and the Evanuris would eventually kill Solas and chaos would rise again.

"Leave Thedas"?

As in going into a place like the crossraods? Or going to one of the "in-between" places that Morrigan speaks of?

 

Because even in theory it is likely that will not work given what we know from Trespasser/Morrigan. From what we can tell, most--if not all--of the things we find and see in the crossraods (save for what was brought there from Thedas itself) are like the books we find the Vir Dirthara. They are not really real.

 

They are ideas simply given form by our perceptions. You may be able to feel it, you may be able to smell it, you may even be able to taste it--but in the end it is just magical energies given form. We do not know if anything consumed from this landscape is actually capable of giving substance. This is significant because it may be able to determine if a general population can actually be able to sustain itself, by itself, without any contact to Thedas.

 

For instance, we know that when elves see 'trees' in the crossroads they have leaves on them. We also know humans see the same trees but with no leaves on them.

But say the elves perceive apples on the tree. The question is if one were to pick the apple off the tree and eat it, would that apple be 'real' enough to provide sustenance? Even though other races cannot see, hear, smell or touch it (and thereby putting doubt as to if it is real)?

 

Then there is the issue of dimension stability. We know that it is at least connected to Thedas in some way--otherwise the rise of the veil wouldn't have affected it so much. So trying to distance yourself from Thedas, despite the existence of the crossraods/in-between places already being tied to it, is not ideal. But we also know from our conversation with Morrigan that the crossraods are....not exactly as stable as they used be. If anything they seem to be in a state of slow, gradual decay. As with the rising of the veil, paths may eventually sunder, the ground may give way to nothingness, and buildings will slowly crumble. Do you want to live in a dimension that can one day not exist?

 

Imo, there are too many things that could go wrong with that plan. Unless we get distinct proof that the elves artificial dimensions can sustain real things on its own or leads to other natural (as in not created by the elves) dimensions that is independent from Thedas, trying to civilize anything like the in-between dimensions will only lead to disaster.

[Sah291]

Hawke and Corypheus were connected to some extent and the magister started to hunt Hawke and the Amell family for their blood
I  think they planned to use Hawke as the Inquisitor given how this character was connected to the mages-templars conflict but then the character story arc was interrupted.

Yes I think so too, and Corypheus would have been more fulfilling as a villian to me if written opposite Hawke, in my opnion. Even Hawke seemed to know that, declaring "Corypheus is mine!" in Here Lies the Abyss.

Which is why I'd prefer to have the Inquisitor back for DA4, to participate in the conclusion of Solas' arc.

[CardButton]

Hawke and Corypheus were connected to some extent and the magister started to hunt Hawke and the Amell family for their blood

I  think they planned to use Hawke as the Inquisitor given how this character was connected to the mages-templars conflict but then the character story arc was interrupted.

 

I love my Inquisitors, but ...

 

Yeah, I'm more or less certain that Hawke was intended for the role of the Inquisitor during DA:I, but due to the negative backlash of the second game (a backlash Bioware completely mis-understood the reasons for in every respect) they switched out Hawke to something more in line with DA:O, but not as good (excluded origins) because the Inquisitor was indeed just a replacement.  The Mage-Templar Conflict, Flemeth, "Here Lies the Abyss", Corypheus, Varric ... all of these components scream the idea that Hawke was intended for the Protagonist role in the initial planning process and his/her really slap-shod lazy cameo in the game solidify's this theory for me. 

[Sah291]

@CardButton,

I agree. I will say, though, that the shift away from mages/templars towards ancient elves, and the introduction of Solas recovered the story line for me, and got me invested in the Inquisitor as a character in their own right. Especially following Trespasser, which seemed to give a lot of character development.

[German Soldier]

I love my Inquisitors, but ...

 

Yeah, I'm more or less certain that Hawke was intended for the role of the Inquisitor during DA:I, but due to the negative backlash of the second game (a backlash Bioware completely mis-understood the reasons for in every respect) they switched out Hawke to something more in line with DA:O, but not as good (excluded origins) because the Inquisitor was indeed just a replacement.  The Mage-Templar Conflict, Flemeth, "Here Lies the Abyss", Corypheus, Varric ... all of these components scream the idea that Hawke was intended for the Protagonist role in the initial planning process and his/her really slap-shod lazy cameo in the game solidify's this theory for me. 

I think the joke about the dragon form between Flemeth and Hawke  at the beginning of DA2 was made because they intended to give to Hawke the well of sorrow and the Mythal guardian.

[German Soldier]

@CardButton,

I agree. I will say, though, that the shift away from mages/templars towards ancient elves, and the introduction of Solas recovered the story line for me, and got me invested in the Inquisitor as a character in their own right. Especially following Trespasser, which seemed to give a lot of character development.

There is no reason to believe that they will not do the same  with the Inquisitor and use them  as cameo npc like Hawke in DAI.

I don't like this formula.

[Lezio]

I love my Inquisitors, but ...

 

Yeah, I'm more or less certain that Hawke was intended for the role of the Inquisitor during DA:I, but due to the negative backlash of the second game (a backlash Bioware completely mis-understood the reasons for in every respect) they switched out Hawke to something more in line with DA:O, but not as good (excluded origins) because the Inquisitor was indeed just a replacement.  The Mage-Templar Conflict, Flemeth, "Here Lies the Abyss", Corypheus, Varric ... all of these components scream the idea that Hawke was intended for the Protagonist role in the initial planning process and his/her really slap-shod lazy cameo in the game solidify's this theory for me. 

 

Props for the connection you made between "Here Lies The Abyss" and Flemeth's words in DA2, read it in another thread and i must say i never thought about it

 

Personally, as i've written in another topic some time ago, they should have had Hawke as a playable character and as the unofficial leader for the pre-Skyhold part of the game.

Basically, they could have had Hawke be the guy/gal at the top (so, in gameplay, we would have to become him/her when doing War-Table missions), while the Herald could have been the mascotte, going around doing the grunt work and looking inspiring for the people. Then Cory strikes at Haven, Hawke goes missing/dies fighting the templars/mages and the Herald lucks out and saves the day, and in doing so getting the Inquisition's leadership (it would have even fit with Mother Giselle's speech about "hero's fall and hero's rise")

Hell, it would have even given the player a legitimate reason to want to bring down Corypheus, and provided a character development moment for the soon-to-be-Inquisitor (which the main game, IMHO, completely lacks)

 

Also, talking from a developer perspective, it would have given them the chance to try out the "dual-protagonist" mechanic in a relatively safe environment (since in Inquisition they tried out lots of new things), and made a lot of people feel more at ease about DA4 and its handling of the Inquisitor

[CardButton]

Props for the connection you made between "Here Lies The Abyss" and Flemeth's words in DA2, read it in another thread and i must say i never thought about it

I roll with an Allistair warden for that quest on many of my playthroughs, and its those words given to Hawke by Flemeth that make me choose Hawke to stay in the Fade every time.  Especially when they went out of their way to call the quest "Here Lies the Abyss".      

 

"We stand upon the precipice of change.  The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss.  Watch for that moment ... and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap.  It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly."

 

Yeah I know its a bit meta-gamy, but it makes the decision far more interesting.  Plus, when I start considering that any of my Inquisitor's who willingly chose to sacrifice Allistair would not survive till old age once my surviving HoF (Allistair romance) found out about it, I'm less prone to sacrificing the snarky dick.  Sorry Quizzy, you may have had "special snowflake" status up until the end of "Trespasser" and you may be a genuinely better leader, but there hasn't been a DA PC yet that can match the HoF in pure combat ability. You'd be dead in a second. :3

[animedreamer]

What's not to like about a intelligent person with ability and conviction? 

[Fiskrens]

Yeah I know its a bit meta-gamy, but it makes the decision far more interesting. Plus, when I start considering that any of my Inquisitor's who willingly chose to sacrifice Allistair would not survive till old age once my surviving HoF (Allistair romance) found out about it, I'm less prone to sacrificing the snarky dick. Sorry Quizzy, you may have had "special snowflake" status up until the end of "Trespasser" and you may be a genuinely better leader, but there hasn't been a DA PC yet that can match the HoF in pure combat ability. You'd be dead in a second. :3

I sincerely hope your HoF isn't that single-minded and vindictive as to not see that it's the person themselves that actually does the choosing, and that the inquisitor really can't be blamed for it .

But it's an interesting - although a little weak - thought that the person staying may actually gain something from it; I've always chosen to save Hawke with the reason that they've already suffered so much.

[BansheeOwnage]

I love my Inquisitors, but ...

 

Yeah, I'm more or less certain that Hawke was intended for the role of the Inquisitor during DA:I, but due to the negative backlash of the second game (a backlash Bioware completely mis-understood the reasons for in every respect) they switched out Hawke to something more in line with DA:O, but not as good (excluded origins) because the Inquisitor was indeed just a replacement.  The Mage-Templar Conflict, Flemeth, "Here Lies the Abyss", Corypheus, Varric ... all of these components scream the idea that Hawke was intended for the Protagonist role in the initial planning process and his/her really slap-shod lazy cameo in the game solidify's this theory for me. 

Don't forget about Cullen and Cassandra, too. Imagine the conversations we could have had with them as Hawke, or even romances! Hawke could realize a crush on Cullen from Kirkwall, and Cassandra could fangirl over them face-to-face! Oh, why didn't they have Hawke and Cass interact in DA:I? It would have been glorious Oh, and the Well of Sorrows was supposed to be in the cancelled Exalted March expansion...

[CardButton]

Don't forget about Cullen and Cassandra, too. Imagine the conversations we could have had with them as Hawke, or even romances! Hawke could realize a crush on Cullen from Kirkwall, and Cassandra could fangirl over them face-to-face! Oh, why didn't they have Hawke and Cass interact in DA:I? It would have been glorious Oh, and the Well of Sorrows was supposed to be in the cancelled Exalted March expansion...

Jeezus ... DA:I, when put it under that light ... its kind of amazing it turned out as good as it actually is. 

 

I kind of feel bad for the Inquisitor PC now.  Even though they are actually my favorite PC out of the three thus far, they're "blandness" is probably a byproduct of switching them into a story that was re-written to facilitate their presence (what can I say I tend to play very logical, sort of bland, characters. The Inquisitor was close to my natural RPing state).  The extreme lack of main story content is probably a side effect as well.  10 Quests, with 3 of them essentially boiling down to talking to 2 NPCs each.  If you take out the "power" system, the main story-line for the base game is no longer than 12-14 hours (out of a 80+ hour game).  I wonder if this is why the "Trespasser" felt so different in terms of writing quality?  It's the only portion of the story that seems specifically written for the Inquisitor PC, rather than a re-written story-element for Hawke.

 

I'm getting more worried about what will happen if they do attempt to remove the Inquisitor from the next game, another round of the mess that Cory and Hawke were?  Think I'll just spend my time obsessing over my stupid little DA side-fan project in the meantime, rather than obsessing over this lol. 

[BansheeOwnage]

Jeezus ... DA:I, when put it under that light ... its kind of amazing it turned out as good as it actually is. 

 

I kind of feel bad for the Inquisitor PC now.  Even though they are actually my favorite PC out of the three thus far, they're "blandness" is probably a byproduct of switching them into a story that we re-written to facilitate their presence (what can I say I tend to play very logical, sort of bland, characters. The Inquisitor was close to my natural RPing state).  The extreme lack of main story content is probably a side effect as well.  10 Quests, with 3 of them essentially boiling down to talking to 2 NPCs each.  If you take out the "power" system, the main story-line for the base game no longer than 12-14 hours (out of a 80+ hour game).  I wonder if this is why the "Trespasser" felt so different in terms of writing quality?  It's the only portion of the story that seems specifically written for the Inquisitor PC, rather than a re-written story-element for Hawke.

 

I'm getting more worried about what will happen if they do attempt to remove the Inquisitor from the next game, another round of the mess that Cory and Hawke were?  Think I'll just spend my time obsessing over my stupid little DA side-fan project in the meantime, rather than obsessing over this lol. 

Well said I definitely think that's why Trespasser:

 

1. Felt quite different than the rest of the game (and other DLCs)

2. Was very well received in that regard, since there have been loads of posts that indicate people were a lot happier with the Inquisitor in that DLC and that they seemed more fleshed out and properly integrated into the plot.

 

This actually made me a lot more excited to return as the Inquisitor in DA4 since I was starting to like them more and figured that would continue in DA4 because of the more personal story.

[ledong6789]

Because he is a person not a tranquil and the only one who deserve to exsist in Thedas,him and Abelas

[Bayonet Hipshot]

So I was watching X Men Apocalypse the other day and one character in the movie reminded me of Solas. Here he is:-

 

 

Everything they've built will fall! And from the ashes of their world, we'll build a better one!

That sounds a lot like Solas at the end of Trespasser.

 

You are all my children, and you're lost because you follow blind leaders. No more false gods. I'm here now.

This is probably what he tells his new Elven recruits.

 

I've been called many things over many lifetimes: Ra, Krishna, Yahweh Solas, Fen'Harel, Dread Wolf . I was there to spark and fan the flame of man's awakening, to spin the wheel of civilization to create the Veil, to cause the fall of Elvhenan.

With a couple of adjustments, this line fits Solas as well.

 

Solas and Corypheus are both very much like En Sabah Nur / Apocalypse. Corypheus was more up in your face about it, Solas was more discreet about it.

 

Heck, Solas absorbed Flemeth/Mythal's power the same way En Sabah Nur/Apocalpyse does with his soul transfer ritual, which grants him the power of the host Mutant body in addition to the ones he already has.

 

Solas = Elven En Sabah Nur.

 

Now we know what Solas meant when he said he did not wish for Lavellan to see what he will become. He is going to become blue, wear a fancy blue Ancient Elven armor and try to destroy Thedas.