Interesting. I am on the side of modern Theodosians yet you accuse me for not caring for Elves of Dwarves or Spirits. To me Elves and Dwarves should adapt to the modern world and Spirits should stay in the Fade. Also, how are you so sure that the Veil-less world will last ? It didn't the last time. Most importantly, you are misrepresenting my viewpoints as black and white - I simply think like Varric, which is not a black and white viewpoint, it is simply a practical viewpoint.
Of course you don't care. You only prove that above with a nonchalance you declare simplistic solutions to problems like "dwarves and elves should adapt to modern world" and "spirits should stay in the Fade". Those are ideas on a level of certain presidential candidate who thinks that the solution to his country's problems is forcing one nation to build wall on the border and forbidding few others access to the country - and then POOF! Magically problems are gone!
....It's this bad.
Like, you can't be serious in thinking that the solution is something as simple as "they just should adapt or die" - that's Qunari logic, not Varric's (and yes, Qunari are indeed VERY practical).
And people have tried for spirits to "stay in the Fade" for at least a millennium. Obviously this is not happening anytime soon. Nor we know if it could ever realistically happen, seeing how intrinsically connected are spirits to living beings. Obviously both influence themselves, good and bad. And no, obviously you don't care if you just want for them to "stay in the Fade" - basically on permanent exile, when Cole has already proven to us that spirits are *indeed* living, sentient creatures that have all the capacity to grow.
"Life goes on. It's just different than it used to be.I know what it didn't cost me. I'm still here, even after all those thaigs fell."
"He lost everyone, but he still got up every morning. He made a life, even if it was alone. That's the world. Everything you build, it tears down. Everything you've got, it takes. And it's gone forever. The only choices you get are to lie down and die or keep going. He kept going. That's as close to beating the world as anyone gets."
That is how my characters think. They have no interest and no desire to engage in some dangerous ritual that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives. As far as they are concerned, they are here, they are surviving, and they have made a positive difference to the world that they are living in.
Huh... you realize that Solas has no interest or desire to engage in some dangerous ritual that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives? Not only he agrees with Varric, he tells us this verbatim in Trespasser - he thinks of the current incarnation of his plan as terrible and awful and we see that he doesn't want to do that and he expects that he'll suffer terribly for it. Yet something compels him to do that - either guilt, lives at stake or future of the world. Likely all things at once.
Neither Varric just sits in Skyhold and drinks pina-colada, despite all his easygoing attitude - he sticks to Inquisition to help defeat Corypheus, even if it means officially supporting a bad leader who make questionable decisions and forsakes a lot of lives (a thing he can even point out to Inky with low approval). Partially it's guilt for releasing Corypheus and finding Red Lyrium, partially it's awareness that he has to fight, because something has to be done.
Basically what you seem to ignore is that the situation is obviously not as simple as you paint it. We don't even know if our characters *will* be able to not choose between forsaking and not forsaking hundreds of thousand of lives... or perhaps we'd have to choose between two equally awful decisions?
What are you going to do then? Just... disassociate yourself with the side you didn't pick, as you obviously do now?
Whereas you and people like Almostfaceman think like Solas:- "We lost everything and instead of adapting, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to get the supposedly glorious past back, including giving a powerful source of magic to a maniac who used it to kill lots of people at Haven and now we want to take something down and kill lots of people in the process and that's okay because we are somehow not a monster like Corypheus." 
You obviously haven't been reading what was written to you, or generally on this thread Nobody, not even Solas in-game, thinks that this is all about "bringing back glorious past", no matter of the cost.
What I see now that the world is in imbalance - and whatever awaits Thedas it needs to change and judging from Flemeth's words or Sandal's prophecy: it will most definitely change. That doesn't necessarily means bringing things how they were in the past. Heck, I distinctly remember musing on this thread or in Blanketfort numerous times that we don't know if taking the Veil down is the best solution, and perhaps the "new age" Flemeth was talking about is some sort of world that is unalike the ancient past or current Thedas; merely a world that has pushed further and evolved into something beyond those things. We can't exclude that possibility.
But of course you only want to hear and see what you want to hear and see. Nuance is apparently a thing to be sneered at.
The last I checked, my world state is a pretty good one:- Breach is sealed, Qunari are repelled from Southern Thedas, Elves & Humans are working together again because Celene and Briala are united with Gaspard dead, non-Humans like Varric and Clan Lavellan are ruling city states with actual legitimacy, Mages are free, Chantry is more progressive than ever with Leliana as Divine, Templars are no longer around thanks to Cullen's rehabilitation efforts, Seekers are reformed thanks to Cassandra, Wardens are no longer reclusive and there's no Blight.
So we have a world state where people are finally healing and starting to get along and in comes Solas and people who support him:- "Welp, according to us, the world is not perfect and people are like Tranquils. You know what, let's try to bring down the Veil, let the world burn in the raw chaos, let lots of people die and then the remainders, you know, those who are capable of adapting, will be somehow better. This is all okay because we are not a monster like Corypheus because we are giving the world state that the protagonist worked hard to create a few years of peace before we wreck it."
Are you surprised to find people, even those who play non-Human Inquisitors, opposing you for opposing you for this ?
Lol, really? The fact that people would be opposing Solas who threatens their fragile peace Southerner got at last is a no-brainer. I've already stated numerous times that people have the right to protect themselves and their way of living if someone or something threatens it. But what you lack here is ability to look at a bigger picture. Yes, the South has dealt with most of its hurdles, but the world is hardly as in as peaceful state as you make it to be.
Leliana is constantly threatened with assassination attempts and South may yet see religious wars, depending what and who is going to reveal about the Veil creation, which itself is a bomb, no matter of Solas' plans. Qunari threat didn't disappear - they've simply been pushed North (funny that you completely ignore Solas's massive contribution into this), only to invade Tevinter - you think they're just going to stay there after some successful conquering, now that it's obvious they're getting serious? They've almost succeeded in sneak-attacking Souther leadership, which was supposed to be a preemptive attack that was about to begin the conquering of everything.
No matter what we do, there will be two factions for mages vying for influence in the South and there's no telling how it'd end. Tevinter and Nevarra are at the cusp of falling apart. And slaves are still a reality in the Empire... though I suppose it matters little now that Qunari will attempt to do some conquering and hell knows what Viddi and her team has stumbled when they began re-opening eluvians on their own accord. Maker knows what would happen if Solas didn't think of eluvians as essential for his plans and sought to control-the network, because now we'd have Qunari pouring out of mirrors
And "there's no longer Blight"? ...Wut?
No matter which option we choose the Wardens are obviously in turmoil and the rumors from Weisshaupt don't convince me that Wardens from there don't have any less crazy plan than Orlesian Wardens during Inquisition. Blight still exists. Some Archdemons still exist. We don't know how many magisters still exists, and Corypheus and Architects were more or less unwitting threats in their own right, ancient elvhen orbs or not. Red Lyrium still exists. Varric in Trespasser writes to us about strange Fade rocks appearing in Kirkwall's harbor. Leliana reports to us about Sentinel-looking elves from Tirashan, which we know have been attacking Serrault at last since events in "The Last Court" and there's no conformation that they're in any way associated with Solas.
And there's of course Flemeth on top of it all, predicting that at one point or another there's a grand change going to happen either way - and given that we have at least *two* past god-like being walking the Earth, there's no way of telling who else is there. Like... how many Titans are there, with awoken dwarves like Valta? How many sigils have been tampered with, like the one above Descent Titan? How may of them are actually corrupted by Blight and awaiting to wake up, Veil or no Veil? How many spirits like Hakkon are there, attempted to be awoken and/or used? What about the sinister-sounding message from Geldauran we find in JoH? What about the Exterminators who observe Thedas and work towards an unknown goal?
Basically, Thedas is sitting on a giant ticking time-bomb, it seems and sooner or later someone is going to set it off. It doesn't even have to be Solas, since - as I've pointed out - there are numerous threats and problems Thedas is ridden with. This whole "peace" thing is obviously a silence before the storm.
Solas can't be specced right unless you take drastic actions, namely not using abilities or spells or enchantments that are lightning based, except Lightning Bolt.
The reason for this is the Shock-Weakness bug. If you have a target that is affected by the Shock effect from Lightning Cage or Chain Lightning or a Lightning-enchanted weapon or Elemental Mines or Flask of Lightning at melee range and you try to weaken the target, the Shock and Weakness effect will cancel out and be replaced with Sleep.
The problem with this is twofold. One, it removes the mana regeneration, damage reduction, damage increase and status effects buff that Rift Mages are supposed to get by Weakening a target. Two, many enemies are immune to Sleep, especially at higher difficulties with Trials toggled on. Lightning Bolt is unaffected by this because it does not place a Shock effect on a target but instead paralyzes them.
I guess Ancient Elves didn't know how Lightning based magics worked.
You're talking about bug in a game that affects all Rift Mages, not just Ancient Elves And obviously it's not a problem for me - heck, I've been spamming Lightning Chin left and right with my RM Inquisitor and still get mana and melt things on NIghtmare with no problem whatsoever. It's a matter of skill and timing. At worst I just have to avoid lightning spells or enchants, which is not really that difficult.
Besides, I agreed with one of BSN users once who sad that the whole lightning bug acts as a way to balance the classes - without that RM would be way too OP, lol.
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Mind, I may have missed some while trying to speed read posts before work.
The whole composition of Thedas is a fantastic example of this.
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