You're just repeating yourself. I've already provided examples of how you're wrong. You haven't provided any examples to support your argument.
Apparently it would take a very comprehensive effort to persuade you.
What I'd rather see from you guys are verbatim quotations that show his "empathy" because all I can remember and find are things that prove my point.
Always lecturing... always informing... never really feeling...
Apparently it would take a very comprehensive effort to persuade you.
What I'd rather see from you guys are verbatim quotations that show his "empathy" because all I can remember and find are things that prove my point.
Always lecturing... always informing... never really feeling...
Just read the thread then, plenty of links and videos throughout. Then come back with links and videos of your own. Either way, you're going to actually have to invest a little bit of effort into this discussion if you want to be convincing.
Right now, you're not convincing.
Just read the thread then, plenty of links and videos throughout. Then come back with links and videos of your own. Either way, you're going to actually have to invest a little bit of effort into this discussion if you want to be convincing.
Right now, you're not convincing.
Uh no, I was just going over that video with the fade spirits encounter he is upset because they were messing with magic, not necessarily because of the negative impact on the fade spirit. That never really happens.
Plus um it doesn't show any empathy to just randomly kill these people, thats, um, lack of empathy there. No "Oh well, they were messing with magic but now they learned." It's just pure violence.
Uh no, I was just going over that video with the fade spirits encounter he is upset because they were messing with magic, not necessarily because of the negative impact on the fade spirit. That never really happens.
Now you're just trolling, your statement is pure fantasy and nobody who's actually played the game will buy your argument that Solas wasn't upset about the death of the spirit.
Again...
Now you're just trolling, your statement is pure fantasy and nobody who's actually played the game will buy your argument that Solas wasn't upset about the death of the spirit.
Nobody has to buy it, but you haven't any offered any evidence that it's "not pure fantasy" only generic assertions so, go back to the thread, youtube, videos, collect some evidence
Nobody has to buy it, but you haven't any offered any evidence that it's "not pure fantasy" only generic assertions so, go back to the thread, youtube, videos, collect some evidence
You've made an argument, you have to support it.
You've made an argument, you have to support it.
You've made an argument, now you have to support it.
You've made an argument,
now you have to support it. and supported it. I'll get right on that, making my case.
Fixed that for ya. Now you're displaying a lack of reading comprehension. You may want to review our discussion.
You can't support your argument, Gotcha.
Fixed that for ya. Now you're displaying a lack of reading comprehension. You may want to review our discussion.
You can't support your argument, Gotcha.
Fixed that for ya. Now you're displaying a lack of reading comprehension. You may want to review our discussion.
You can't support your argument, Gotcha.
That's ridiculous, I can think of three examples right off the top of my head where he most certainly gives us his opinion.
He hates the Wardens idea of attacking the remaining archdemons.
i would just like to add I don't even know why it's a big deal if his empathy is feigned... I would think that would make people even more sympathetic to his character.. it would be like this tragic thing "I've never understood people and so had to rely solely on my intellect"
No one denies he's like "smart," but the world or his world won't unravel if we know he has some weak points.
Again with this?Solas does not care for the archdemons/old gods he even said in conversation that the strategy at least is buying timehe just disliked Blackwall arguments when he implied ending all the blights by killing all archdemons or how the wardens wanted to force spirits to fight the darksapwns
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, since your sentence is mangled. In the scene where the Inquisitor faces Erimond in the Western Approach Solas quite clearly states that killing the archdemons may make the Blight situation even worse. He's mad at the Wardens for this strategy and it's implied it's because their ignorance, again, will just make things worse.
He does this repeating what you say thing a lot, too.
That particular ending has been purged from my mind.
I don't think I've ever had a more stressful 7 hours of gaming than Trespasser though. I was utterly convinced my Lavellan was going to end up dead by the end - it didn't help my mood after I picked that one "I don't want to die" dialogue option. I was all "Damnit, you have shown no sense of self preservation for the entire game, please please please gain one now and try to live" and clicked on it - Alix has this absolutely heartbreaking line which is something to the effect of "I don't want to die before I finish this", but theres this gap in the line before she says the "before I finish this" part. She only adds that in after seeing everyone look at her with this slightly freaked out expression where they have no idea how to react to the poor terrified girl and it seems like she only added that last part in to make it look like she wasn't freaking out quite as bad because no one else knew how to comfort her, and just ugh.
And then hearing her falling and screaming in pain for the last hour... And Dorian's goodbye to her before they go into the Eluvian the last time... and.. and... I'm ok, I'll stop now...
Yeah... I'm with you. I had Sumalee's voice, but I also chose that line and the delivery in the whole DLC was also terrific. I mean... the screaming in agony, being helpless... It was so good, yet so horrible, 
Do you know what I mean?
comparing is one thing, going off on tinfoil tangents is another. its annoying and silly
It certainly can be very dumb, yes. But I still don't like the idea of blatantly banning such discussions. I'd rather we be allowed to discuss real-life stuff and simply deal with the idiots as they come, but that would require more actual moderation, so it's not going to happen.
There are others physical objects in the fade other than the black city.Some eluvians,the statue that was behind Flemeth
Uh... Okay? I never said things weren't physical in the fade - I was arguing that it is a physical dimension! I was simply pointing out that those physical things (with the apparent exception of the Black City) are shaped by belief, will, and perception.
i would just like to add I don't even know why it's a big deal if his empathy is feigned... I would think that would make people even more sympathetic to his character.. it would be like this tragic thing "I've never understood people and so had to rely solely on my intellect"
No one denies he's like "smart," but the world or his world won't unravel if we know he has some weak points.
No one is taking issue with the idea of his having weak points, Kefka. Just the fact that the specific flaws you're accusing him of are completely unsubstantiated.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, since your sentence is mangled. In the scene where the Inquisitor faces Erimond in the Western Approach Solas quite clearly states that killing the archdemons may make the Blight situation even worse. He's mad at the Wardens for this strategy and it's implied it's because their ignorance, again, will just make things worse.
Except that he was not talking about the Archdemons.Killing Archdemons don't make things even worse than letting them running around.He was talking on the context of using spirits to reach dormant old gods.
No, he was most definitely talking about Archdemons. He expands on that in dialogue after scene with Erimond and you can hear he's not just angry at Wardens - he sounds genuinely terrified.
Except that he was not talking about the Archdemons.Killing Archdemons don't make things even worse than letting them running around.He was talking on the context of using spirits to reach dormant old gods.
No, he was talking about the archdemons. The Wardens were digging for them to kill them. That particular action pissed off Solas. Here's the transcript and a link to the game play cut scene. Starts at about 3:51.
No, he was most definitely talking about Archdemons. He expands on that in dialogue after scene with Erimond and you can hear he's not just angry at Wardens - he sounds genuinely terrified.
If Solas knows something about it but decided to just kept quiet about it, in my eyes he has no right whatsoever of being angry with Grey Warden doing what they're doing.
No, he was talking about the archdemons. The Wardens were digging for them to kill them. That particular action pissed off Solas. Here's the transcript and a link to the game play cut scene. Starts at about 3:51.
Inquisitor: Why would the Wardens try to kill the Old Gods?Erimond: A Blight happens when Darkspawn find an old god and corrupt it into an archdemon. If someone fought through the deep roads and killed the old gods before they could be corrupted... woof... no more Blights... ever. The Wardens sacrifice their lives and save the world.Solas: That's madness! For all we know killing the old gods could make things even worse!
Where does this video contradicts me?I did not heard the word archdemon from Solas i heard old gods which means he referenced to those non corrupted lizards trapped underground
And now it's impossible to take you seriously.
Where does this video contradicts me?I did not heard the word archdemon from Solas i heard old gods which means he referenced to those non corrupted lizards trapped underground
It's right in the sentence immediately before, to which Solas is responding.
Erimond: A Blight happens when Darkspawn find an old god and corrupt it into an archdemon. If someone fought through the deep roads and killed the old gods before they could be corrupted... woof... no more Blights... ever. The Wardens sacrifice their lives and save the world.
He is referring to those "non corrupted lizards," which Erimond just established can become Archdemons. They are one and the same, and Solas is visibly horrified at the idea of trying to go back and destroy them before the transformation.
And now it's impossible to take you seriously.
It's right in the sentence immediately before, to which Solas is responding.
Erimond: A Blight happens when Darkspawn find an old god and corrupt it into an archdemon. If someone fought through the deep roads and killed the old gods before they could be corrupted... woof... no more Blights... ever. The Wardens sacrifice their lives and save the world.
He is referring to those "non corrupted lizards," which Erimond just established can become Archdemons. They are one and the same, and Solas is visibly horrified at the idea of trying to go back and destroy them before the transformation.
Solas is talking about old gods and disliked the context of killing them with demon army when they are not even archdemons yet.
I don't really care at all about Solas' reasoning. I have no doubt that it has something to do with his whole trickster god alter ego, but since he gives objections with no alternate solutions, he can stuff it.
Aside from using demons seems to me that the principle behind the plan is a good one. I for one would wholeheartedly support the eradication of the Old Gods, unless someone can devise a plan to remove the darkspawn threat entirely, thereby making such a plan unnecessary.
If Solas knows something about it but decided to just kept quiet about it, in my eyes he has no right whatsoever of being angry with Grey Warden doing what they're doing.
Huh... that's like saying that he has no right whatsoever to worry abut the Breach because he didn't tell anyone that Corypheus has created it with his Orb.
We don't know what he knows about the Old Gods, but it's possible that this is something so obscure or special it'd immediately throw suspicion on him (from both in-game characters and players), when he's balancing on the edge of what his Fadewalking can explain in terms of knowledge he possesses already.
Plus, I'd like to add that neither him nor Flemeth has given any sort of specific information on the Blight, despite obviously knowing something about it. So it must indeed be something pretty major, but not necessarily neither of them wants to reveal to the world - either yer or ever.
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