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[Xerrai]

@Xerrai:  What I'm trying to convey... is that both fans and haters can say:  "Morrigan is this..."  "Leliana is this..."  "Flemeth is this..."

 

I feel that we can't even come to a general consensus as to Solas' fundamental traits... and that, to me, makes him a convoluted mess the writers seemed to try to make everything to everyone. 

 

We've never found a general consensus? Not even in a few general traits? I wasn't aware of that. A good amount of the time, both sides are willing to agree that he is at least full of conviction (for good or ill), clever (he made it to endgame without anyone learning who really is) and generally (but not always) keeps to himself.

 

I think it's possible that because he lied through the entire game about who he was... it allows some people to simply dismiss everything Pre-Tresspasser - while others pick the things they like Pre-Tresspasser and ignore the negative..... and everything in between.

I brought this up once before, but when exactly did he lie? The only thing I can think of as blatant misinformation was when he said he came from a "small village to the north", otherwise just about everything else he said was accurate in one sense or another.

He described himself as an apostate whose studies have allowed him to learn much of the fade. And this is true. He is a mage outside of Circle supervision, whose studies in ancient elvhenan did indeed allow him insight into the fade (because back then the fade was part of the realm).

 

Unless you think not being as crystal clear constitutes as lying...

[Addictress]

Um


If you guys mean "unconventionally attractive" as in like an international model on a billboard in Tokyo who's famed for an ethereal beauty unique and out of the world


then yeah

[midnight tea]

 

He described himself as an apostate whose studies have allowed him to learn much of the fade. And this is true. He is a mage outside of Circle supervision, whose studies in ancient elvhenan did indeed allow him insight into the fade (because back then the fade was part of the realm).

 

Considering that a definition of "apostate" is "one who renounces a religious or political belief or principle" - and I think in Thedas they also use it in that context - and Fen'Harel certainly did, going against both political and religious leaders of Elvenhan, we can say that he was an apostate for a veeery long time.

[Patricia08]

I don't think Solas is conventionally attractive, but sometimes unconventional attractiveness can end up being more compelling. Solas' looks didn't appeal to me at first (I had even dismissed him as a romance choice... until I heard his voice), but it definitely grew on me, and now I think he's incredibly attractive, and yes, very sexy.

 

True but i guess i don't have that Solas "virus" yet and i guess i never will because this is my 9 playthrough and i still don't have it. I do find his voice sexy though but that is as far as it gets. 

[Patricia08]

I thought he was attractive at first glance... 

 

It's good that we all have different tastes in man because if we would all like just a few man irl those man would be the luckiest man and at the same time the unluckiest man on earth.   

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Solas is not conventionally attractive because he is a few thousand years old. Sure, he has been in magical stasis for a while but it does not change the fact that he is an old Elf and no one can remain perpetually attractive, even if they are in Uthenara nourishing themselves with Fade energies for a few thousand years old.

 

Additionally, remember that Elves in pre-Veil Thedas were immortal but there was no mention of pre-Veil Elves having eternal youth. I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

[Baboontje]

I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

Well, I can't speak for others but, no. I really am not into older guys irl. My significant other is only 18 months older than I am.

[IllustriousT]

 I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

 

Without Trespasser, one may assume, as I did, that Solas and Cullen are in their late 30's - early 40's, which while still technically "older" than me, its not by much  .

[Baboontje]

Without Trespasser, one may assume, as I did, that Solas and Cullen are in their late 30's - early 40's, which while still technically "older" than me, its not by much  .

 

And there's that of course. I estimated them younger though. And it seems Cullen is: Cullen Stanton Rutherford (born in approximately 9:11 Dragon[6][7])

Spoiler

↑ Cullen was approximately 19 when the Fifth Blight began in 9:30. Dragon Age: The World of Thedas, vol. 2, pp. 223-224
↑ He is "roughly thirty" in 9:41. Brianne Battye via twitter.

[IllustriousT]

And there's that of course. I estimated them younger though. And it seems Cullen is: Cullen Stanton Rutherford (born in approximately 9:11 Dragon[6][7])

Spoiler

↑ Cullen was approximately 19 when the Fifth Blight began in 9:30. Dragon Age: The World of Thedas, vol. 2, pp. 223-224
↑ He is "roughly thirty" in 9:41. Brianne Battye via twitter.

 

Nice. Thanks for clearing that up. I assumed after Origins and II, that he had to pushing his late 30's. I guess that means...I like them younger, at least in one of my playthroughs   (still not by much).

 

Poor Cullen. I knew he was emotional traumatized, but he was a just a kid in Origins - my Warden should have been nicer to him. 

[Patricia08]

Solas is not conventionally attractive because he is a few thousand years old. Sure, he has been in magical stasis for a while but it does not change the fact that he is an old Elf and no one can remain perpetually attractive, even if they are in Uthenara nourishing themselves with Fade energies for a few thousand years old.

 

Additionally, remember that Elves in pre-Veil Thedas were immortal but there was no mention of pre-Veil Elves having eternal youth. I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

 

A couple of years ago i had a little crush on a overseas business partner from my father i guess he must have bin 10 maybe 15 years older then me at that time. But that was a very handsome man. But it was just a little crush and nothing more and he had a very sexy voice as well something like the voice of Avery Brooks from star trek deep space nine. But to answer your question for me it would not be entirely impossible to fall for someone older then me. But then what is 10 , 15 years what do you see as quite older then we are ?    

[Baboontje]

Nice. Thanks for clearing that up. I assumed after Origins and II, that he had to pushing his late 30's. I guess that means...I like them younger, at least in one of my playthroughs   (still not by much).

 

Poor Cullen. I knew he was emotional traumatized, but he was a just a kid in Origins - my Warden should have been nicer to him. 

 

Yes, poor Cullen indeed. Especially since he never gets any love from my Inquisitors anymore. But I have this....headcanon or some such, that out of all the potential Wardens in DAO, at least some of them are alive. Amell included. So I figured she got mixed up in the rebellions during DAI and coming face to face with Cullen again after 10 years so they can finally work out their stuff. So at least he gets a happy ending...unlike my Lavellans.

[Ieldra]

Solas is not conventionally attractive because he is a few thousand years old. Sure, he has been in magical stasis for a while but it does not change the fact that he is an old Elf and no one can remain perpetually attractive, even if they are in Uthenara nourishing themselves with Fade energies for a few thousand years old.

I don't think you have the evidence to make that claim.
 

Additionally, remember that Elves in pre-Veil Thedas were immortal but there was no mention of pre-Veil Elves having eternal youth. I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

If they were immortal, there must've been a cutoff age after which they didn't continue to change physically. If the decay process that is aging had no limit, they couldn't logically be immortal. Death from old age, after all, is nothing more but decaying past a point where your life processes can still be sustained.

[Patricia08]

Btw what is the age of a Human Inquisitor in the game if i would guess late 20's early 30's and the age of some of my Elf Inquisitors i have no idea some of them look like they are just 19 , 20 years old. And the same goes for Dwarfs and Qunaris no idea.

 

Do we actually know the age of an Elf , Dwarf or Qunari in the game ?  

[lynroy]

I'll be honest, I did not find Solas attractive at first. I found him to be quite attractive after getting to know his character in game.  

 

Btw what is the age of a Human Inquisitor in the game if i would guess late 20's early 30's and the age of some of my Elf Inquisitors i have no idea some of them look like they are just 19 , 20 years old. And the same goes for Dwarfs and Qunaris no idea.

 

Do we actually know the age of an Elf , Dwarf or Qunari in the game ?  

Age of the Inquisitor is up to player head canon. I have a handful of inquisitors with varying ages from 24-40.

[Ieldra]

Btw what is the age of a Human Inquisitor in the game if i would guess late 20's early 30's and the age of some of my Elf Inquisitors i have no idea some of them look like they are just 19 , 20 years old. And the same goes for Dwarfs and Qunaris no idea.

I don't think there is a canonical age. Some players make old Inquisitors, some make young ones. I've seen some I'd estimate to be 50, others barely 20.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Xerria:  I think causing your predicament and then letting you suffer with the Mark while you battle a creature he empowered... constitutes lying.  

 

I think him letting you take the fall for killing everyone at the Conclave... constitutes lying.

 

I think infiltrating your organization with spies - constitutes lying.

 

I think not telling you who he is - constitutes lying.

 

I think him not telling you he wants to destroy your world while he has you eliminate one of his enemies - constitutes lying.

[Patricia08]

Age of the Inquisitor is up to player head canon. I have a handful of inquisitors with varying ages from 24-40.

 

 

I don't think there is a canonical age. Some players make old Inquisitors, some make young ones. I've seen some I'd estimate to be 50, others barely 20.

 

Okay thank you both 

 

edit. But if you make an Elf and you make her/him young or old looking it will still be difficult to know their exact age even if they are looking young or old.  

[dawnstone]

My oldest inquisitor is 56, my youngest is 25, and I am personally closer in age to Blackwall and the assumed age of Solas before the reveal. Solas kind of hit the sweet spot for me in a lot of ways.

[midnight tea]

Solas is not conventionally attractive because he is a few thousand years old. Sure, he has been in magical stasis for a while but it does not change the fact that he is an old Elf and no one can remain perpetually attractive, even if they are in Uthenara nourishing themselves with Fade energies for a few thousand years old.

 

Additionally, remember that Elves in pre-Veil Thedas were immortal but there was no mention of pre-Veil Elves having eternal youth. I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

 

I don't think Uthenera has anything to do with it. Solas simply looks "ancient elfy".

 

Also - considering that Solas IS thousands years old and has been living long before he went to uthenera (Mythal calls him an old friend and his Trespasse murals depicting events froma aeons past confirm that), him looking like he's in his late 30-ties/early-40 elves are either eternally young or are close to it.

 

Add to that the a possibility that their looks may simply reflect how they feel - we do know that he "left a scar" as a memento of someone who asked him to take a body, possibly Mythal, and this is supped to reflect an emotional scar or attachment, rather than a reminder of physical injury. Elves are close to spirits and appear to be a lot about symbolism and symbolic gestures, including those that may or may not be almost half-conscious. So Solas may look somewhat older not because his body has aged per se, but because he's been worn down by his mission. 

 

And no - personally I'm not necessarily into older men. I'm not into boys and I like my men mature, but not necessarily much older. And it's Solas' maturity that does trick to me, not necessarily his apparent physical age.

[Abyss108]

I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

 

Bit of a jump there. Every guy I've liked IRL has been younger than me.

[midnight tea]

We've never found a general consensus? Not even in a few general traits? I wasn't aware of that. A good amount of the time, both sides are willing to agree that he is at least full of conviction (for good or ill), clever (he made it to endgame without anyone learning who really is) and generally (but not always) keeps to himself.

 

Going back to that for a moment... Anyway, I'd say more - I think one of the main draws of the character is that he's surprising; and epitome of saying "still waters run deep". He's not someone who can be easily categorized or pigeonholed, which makes some people confused and some attracted to him.

[Medhia_Nox]

Going back to that for a moment... Anyway, I'd say more - I think one of the main draws of the character is that he's surprising; and epitome of saying "still waters run deep". He's not someone who can be easily categorized or pigeonholed, which makes some people confused and some attracted to him.

 

I'm not confused by Solas - I'm confused by what some people see in him.  

 

I think Solas is pretty much a textbook Trickster god.  

[midnight tea]

I'm not confused by Solas - I'm confused by what some people see in him.  

 

I think Solas is pretty much a textbook Trickster god.  

 

Lol, yet everything you wrote yesterday suggests that you're confused by him. You said you think he contradicts himself and that, basically, you can't predict him. That's a telltale sign of confusion.

 

edit: is there even a "textbook trickster god"? Both Prometheus and Loki are considered trickster gods, yet they're vastly different as characters (and Solas himself is almost certainly inspired by Prometheus). 

[AlanC9]

Solas is not conventionally attractive because he is a few thousand years old. Sure, he has been in magical stasis for a while but it does not change the fact that he is an old Elf and no one can remain perpetually attractive, even if they are in Uthenara nourishing themselves with Fade energies for a few thousand years old.
 
Additionally, remember that Elves in pre-Veil Thedas were immortal but there was no mention of pre-Veil Elves having eternal youth. I sometimes wonder if the fangirls who like Solas are the ones who are into men who are quite older than they are.

Does Solas actually look old to you?