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[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

I wonder just how much of that hand movement is useless and just for cool factor  I also wonder if the phenomenon of veil-fire appeared because of the events of Inquisition or if it was present in the Theads even before then. Can't remember seeing it in Origins or 2 As someone who likes the Qunari and really dislikes Solas..... well, the formers, in some cases, really lack a "free thinking" mentality, and sometimes even enforce their belifes on others through things like the qamekSolas would never work with them, and even if he would i imagine the Qunari wouldn'tPlus, Solas has a problem with Thedas , not just with Tevinter

But the Qunari are not his enemy because they never enslaved and dehumanize the elves, but the Imperium did all of that and he's pissed off @ the Qunari and not the people who's responsible for enslaving his people. He has no one to blame but himself for putting the elves into a place of despair, and hopelessness and have the nerve to say the elves are not his people because he doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions.

[nightscrawl]

I also wonder if the phenomenon of veil-fire appeared because of the events of Inquisition or if it was present in the Theads even before then. Can't remember seeing it in Origins or 2

 
If we're just talking about it being present in the lore, Dorian says that "Tevinter mages discovered it" when you learn about it. You know Dorian... Regardless of the statement's accuracy, the remark does suggest that it was a known thing before the events of DAI.

[Lady Luminous]

I'm not being melodramatic I'm saying this out if technicality, because people put me on the ignore list and people saying I should be banned because I don't follow rules, which makes me a pariah so to speak. Hence the black sheep.

You realize that mentally stable people don't go about changing their username specifically because a handful of people don't agree with their opinion. Right?

[dawnstone]

 
If we're just talking about it being present in the lore, Dorian says that "Tevinter mages discovered it" when you learn about it. You know Dorian... Regardless of the statement's accuracy, the remark does suggest that it was a known thing before the events of DAI.

Veilfire has to have existed in the time of Arlathan, because it's all over Solas' temple and activates a number of puzzles and things. Maybe the elves called it something else (like Fadefire), or it looks slightly different in a Veil-less world, but it has to have existed in some form.

[nightscrawl]

^ Yeah, but the same can be said of the tomb where you first see it. Since we hadn't seen it in previous games, it's not an unreasonable assumption to think that the devs put in this gamey device just for puzzles and runes and things. I posted that response as actual confirmation in the game, through character dialogue, that it has existed prior to DAI, since that was the question being asked.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

You realize that mentally stable people don't go about changing their username specifically because a handful of people don't agree with their opinion. Right?

Baaa.

[BansheeOwnage]

Seriously I think Solas is dumb because he's fighting the Qunari instead of fighting the Imperium, you would think that he will ally with the Qunari to raise hell @ Tevinter to liberate elven slaves and the Qunari finally brought the Imperium to its knees. Hard.

I think you misunderstood what was happening in the DLC. Solas fought the Qunari because they were in the middle of trying to kill the leaders of the south (and many bystanders) to plunge it into chaos so they could invade in full-force. Solas simply stopped the immediate threat, he didn't start a campaign against them. Tevinter is currently not attacking the south, so Solas has no real reason to fight them.

 

 
I wonder just how much of that hand movement is useless and just for cool factor

Probably mostly cool factor, since Solas can later petrify people with only thought. DA isn't like Harry Potter where specific movements or incantations are required for spells, it's thought-based. So I think mages use hand-movement for the same reason powered people use them in movies:

 

1. It's helpful for the audience.

2. It's helpful for the mages/powered people, sort of like body language during communication. The most skilled or practiced mages wouldn't need them.

 

 

Hey, any chance you could possibly not have a full-sized video in your signature, and perhaps just a link instead? It's very intrusive and annoying when scrolling the page.

[dawnstone]

 

Hey, any chance you could possibly not have a full-sized video in your signature, and perhaps just a link instead? It's very intrusive and annoying when scrolling the page.

If you don't want to block them, like I did, you can just block their sig in the blocking preferences.

[Xerrai]

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Probably mostly cool factor, since Solas can later petrify people with only thought. DA isn't like Harry Potter where specific movements or incantations are required for spells, it's thought-based. So I think mages use hand-movement for the same reason powered people use them in movies:

 

1. It's helpful for the audience.

2. It's helpful for the mages/powered people, sort of like body language during communication. The most skilled or practiced mages wouldn't need them.

 

To be honest, I though magic in this universe have a few similarities to how biotics work in ME. They use physical movements to better trigger (think reflex) their mental impulses. Or in this case, whatever mental gymnastics mages use to cast a spell.

It may not be required, but mentally connecting a physical movement (hand extension) to a desired effect may make the process of spell casting a bit easier.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

I think you misunderstood what was happening in the DLC. Solas fought the Qunari because they were in the middle of trying to kill the leaders of the south (and many bystanders) to plunge it into chaos so they could invade in full-force. Solas simply stopped the immediate threat, he didn't start a campaign against them. Tevinter is currently not attacking the south, so Solas has no real reason to fight them.

The DLC is so poorly written and why the Qunari want to take over Thedas because of Solas' interference? If people all over Thedas found out the Qunari are planning to take over, all human nations will declare war against then and they will not win. You would think they would be much smarter of not to interfere with affairs that doesn't concern them, and it will bring nothing but war and destruction of Par Vollen because of their stupidity. But then again the writers set it up that way so why bother? If I were the Qunari and Solas I would focus on toppling the Imperium so Solas could rescue the elves, and the Qunari finally brought the Imperium to their rule. It's a win-win.

Hey, any chance you could possibly not have a full-sized video in your signature, and perhaps just a link instead? It's very intrusive and annoying when scrolling the page.

I love this song!! Besides the other guy does it too. So why you're not telling him to change his signature?

[midnight tea]

The DLC is so poorly written and why the Qunari want to take over Thedas because of Solas' interference?

 

Yes, it's poorly written... because it couldn't possibly be that it's poorly understood by you? See, this is why people "hate you". You make silly, oftentimes uninformed assumptions or instead of admitting you don't understand something you choose to go on the offensive ...

 

No, Qunai didn't want to take over Thedas due to Solas's interference - we know since DAO that invasion is their ultimate goal and that they've been actively working on invasion plans, given that Sten pretty much explicitly tells us so. What's more, Viddasala tells us that the Qun has been observing the South and that the last shenanigans with the Breach and not getting rid of Inquisitor wielding dangerous magic was a reason they've focused on sneakily getting rid of Southern leadership first to spare most innocents, make their later invasion easier and prevent South from interfering when they deal with Tevinter.

 

 

 

If people all over Thedas found out the Qunari are planning to take over, all human nations will declare war against then and they will not win. You would think they would be much smarter of not to interfere with affairs that doesn't concern them, and it will bring nothing but war and destruction of Par Vollen because of their stupidity. But then again the writers set it up that way so why bother? If I were the Qunari and Solas I would focus on toppling the Imperium so Solas could rescue the elves, and the Qunari finally brought the Imperium to their rule. It's a win-win.

 

"They will not win"? Considering that they've been actively preparing for an invasion for at least a decade before the attack and been building-up strength for centuries, you really think that the Qunari are defenseless? Especially that the Blight, civil wars, mage-templar conflict and Corypheus and his Breach on top of that has seriously weakened Thedas further?

And no, it's not a win-win. Solas's goal isn't freeing elves of the Imperium. And Qunari's plan isn't to focus solely on the Imperium - if Tevinter falls nobody will stop the Qunari, and if they've managed to weaken the South before they'd focus on invading Tevinter, it'd made their conquering of all of the known world even easier.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Yes, it's poorly written... because it couldn't possibly be that it's poorly understood by you? See, this is why people "hate you". You make silly, oftentimes uninformed assumptions or instead of admitting you don't understand something you choose to go on the offensive ...
 
No, Qunai didn't want to take over Thedas due to Solas's interference - we know since DAO that invasion is their ultimate goal and that they've been actively working on invasion plans, given that Sten pretty much explicitly tells us so. What's more, Viddasala tells us that the Qun has been observing the South and that the last shenanigans with the Breach and not getting rid of Inquisitor wielding dangerous magic was a reason they've focused on sneakily getting rid of Southern leadership first to spare most innocents, make their later invasion easier and prevent South from interfering when they deal with Tevinter.
 
 

 
"They will not win"? Considering that they've been actively preparing for an invasion for at least a decade before the attack and been building-up strength for centuries, you really think that the Qunari are defenseless? Especially that the Blight, civil wars, mage-templar conflict and Corypheus and his Breach on top of that has seriously weakened Thedas further?
And no, it's not a win-win. Solas's goal isn't freeing elves of the Imperium. And Qunari's plan isn't to focus solely on the Imperium - if Tevinter falls nobody will stop the Qunari, and if they've managed to weaken the South before they'd focus on invading Tevinter, it'd made their conquering of all of the known world even easier.

It's only my opinion. No need to get all worked up. The reason why I believe it's poorly written is because they made Solas a Corypheus 2.0 for tearing down the Veil, and the show Dragon Age: Redemption Sarebaas wants to tear down the veil. Its like they can't come up with anything new. And why does the affairs of southern nations concerns the Qunari anyways??? It's none of their business unless one of the nations decides to harass and declare war upon Par Vollen that would be a different story if it just that.

[German Soldier]

 

And no, it's not a win-win. Solas's goal isn't freeing elves of the Imperium. And Qunari's plan isn't to focus solely on the Imperium - if Tevinter falls nobody will stop the Qunari, and if they've managed to weaken the South before they'd focus on invading Tevinter, it'd made their conquering of all of the known world even easier.

Solas with his whole plan to bring chaos in Thedas will render the Qunari invasion even more easier.He will fail but  a lot of resources will be spent for him, than the Qunari will strike.

[midnight tea]

It's only my opinion. No need to get all worked up. The reason why I believe it's poorly written is because they made Solas a Corypheus 2.0 for tearing down the Veil, and the show Dragon Age: Redemption Sarebaas wants to tear down the veil. Its like they can't come up with anything new. 

 

... Says a person who got so worked up they have to make a spectacle out of themselves 

 

Also - the fact that it's "only your opinion" doesn't mean that it isn't open to scrutiny if you leave it on a public forum. And I can already tell that you are mixing up a lot of stuff up and don't care about what was presented in games at all.

 

a.) parallels between Solas and Corypheus doesn't men that Solas is Corypheus 2.0. They have different characters and motivations, even if their actions look superficially the same. Anybody who bothers to look beyond the surface sees that.

 

b.) also... what the hell is Dragon Age: Redemption Sareebas? And how did you come to conclusion the that... Sareebas want to tear he Veil? ...Wut? Have you paid any attention to Trespasser at all? Viddasala worked on behalf of Triumvirate to strenghten the Veil. That was the initial reason the Qunari researched everything they've found closed behind eluvians and why they've had a camp in Vir Dirthara. They detest magic - they don't want to bring it back!

 

And why does the affairs of southern nations concerns the Qunari anyways??? It's none of their business unless one of the nations decides to harass and declare war upon Par Vollen that would be a different story if it just that.

 

*sigh* Have you actually read what I've written to you before at all? You know - about the fact that they've planned invasion for a long time and now we're at the cusp of them storming the continent? Of course it's their business what is happening in the South if they've been planning to conquer it for centuries!

[midnight tea]

Solas whit his whole plan to bring chaos in Thedas will render the Qunari invasion even more easier.He will fail but  a lot of resources will be spent for him, than the Qunari will strike.

 

So far we have only seen Solas stopping the Qunari.

 

You also assume that Qunari would bother to focus on his conquering plan when there's an entire Fade dropping on their heads (something they're terrified of).

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

... Says a person who gets so worked up they have to make a spectacle of themselves 

Its all about the love baby!
 

Also - the fact that it's "only your opinion" doesn't mean that it isn't open to scrutiny if you leave it on a public forum. And I can already tell that you are mixing up a lot of stuff up and dont' care about what was presented in games at all.
 
a.) parallels between Solas and Corypheus doesn't men that Solas is Corypheus 2.0. They have different characters and motivations, even if their actions look superficially the same. Anybody who bothers to look beyond the surface sees that.
 
b.) also... what the hell is Dragon Age: Redemption Sareebas? And how the hell you have come up to conclusion that... Sareebas want to tear he Veil? ...Wut? Have you paid any attention to Trespasser at all? Viddasala worked to strenghten the Veil. That was the initial reason the Qunari researched everything they've found closed behind eluvians and why they've had a camp in Vir Dirthara.
 

 
*sigh* Have you actually read what I've written to you before at all? You know - about the fact that they've planned invasion for a long time and now we're at the cusp of them storming the continent? Of course it's their business what is happening in the South if they've been planning to conquer it for centuries!

It's just an opinion. Gee wiz!

[R0vena]

b.) also... what the hell is Dragon Age: Redemption Sareebas? 

It's the web series with Felicia Day. "Dragon Age: Redemption" is the name of the series and "Saarebas" is the title of the last episode.

[midnight tea]

It's the web series with Felicia Day. "Dragon Age: Redemption" is the name of the series and "Saarebas" is the title of the last episode.

 

I recalled that there was a DA series, but I admit that I didn't recall its title. Still... comparing Sareebas' whole plan to what Solas or Corypheus wanted to accomplish individually is a stretch if I've ever saw one, hence my confusion. Plus the whole usage of Fen'Harel's mask to open the rift was an obvious set-up.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

It's the web series with Felicia Day. "Dragon Age: Redemption" is the name of the series and "Saarebas" is the title of the last episode.

Eh the show is too cheesy for my tastes.

[Macha'Anu]

The DLC is so poorly written and why the Qunari want to take over Thedas because of Solas' interference? If people all over Thedas found out the Qunari are planning to take over, all human nations will declare war against then and they will not win. You would think they would be much smarter of not to interfere with affairs that doesn't concern them, and it will bring nothing but war and destruction of Par Vollen because of their stupidity. But then again the writers set it up that way so why bother? If I were the Qunari and Solas I would focus on toppling the Imperium so Solas could rescue the elves, and the Qunari finally brought the Imperium to their rule. It's a win-win.


I love this song!! Besides the other guy does it too. So why you're not telling him to change his signature?

If you mean me, and you may not but since I do have one I'll chime in, probably because I don't make mountain out of a mole hill. We had already moved on, finally, to decent discussion and you came back with the intent and purpose to derail the conversation so you could have all eyes on poor you.  

Besides I'm OK if they block my sig, I understand its not some people's thing. But you are being childish for the sake of attention. This alone is probably the reason people put you on ignore. Because maker forbid someone say they disagree with you or point out spots where you are mistaken, in game lore wise. Goodness. As I say I'm OK if folks don't like Solas I respect that. I do. For reasons of intrigue. And it will stay that way. 

[Macha'Anu]

I recalled that there was a DA series, but I admit that I didn't recall its title. Still... comparing Sareebas' whole plan to what Solas or Corypheus wanted to accomplish individually is a stretch if I've ever saw one, hence my confusion. Plus the whole usage of Fen'Harel's mask to open the rift was an obvious set-up.

I've watched the animesque movie about Cassandra but not heard of this. I should look it up

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

If you mean me, and you may not but since I do have one I'll chime in, probably because I don't make mountain out of a mole hill. We had already moved on, finally, to decent discussion and you came back with the intent and purpose to derail the conversation so you could have all eyes on poor you.  
Besides I'm OK if they block my sig, I understand its not some people's thing. But you are being childish for the sake of attention. This alone is probably the reason people put you on ignore. Because maker forbid someone say they disagree with you or point out spots where you are mistaken, in game lore wise. Goodness. As I say I'm OK if folks don't like Solas I respect that. I do. For reasons of intrigue. And it will stay that way.

I never said that I don't like Solas. I respected him as a man but he never learned his lesson of letting go and find another way instead of reclaiming a lost cause, and you know the I was only joking about the whole black sheep thing right? I know subtlety is not my strongest suit I could be direct at times but hey it is what it is.

[Lunatica]

Solas with his whole plan to bring chaos in Thedas will render the Qunari invasion even more easier.He will fail but  a lot of resources will be spent for him, than the Qunari will strike.

What a crap of a continent Thedas is isn't it?In a single Age the world will face no less than 10 world threats.

At least it seem that the Qunari don't have world threats  to deal with it every single decade.

[German Soldier]

 

What a crap of a continent Thedas is isn't it?In a single Age the world will face no less than 10 world threats.

At least it seem that the Qunari don't have world threats  to deal with it every single decade.

 

They may not be the primary cause of a world threat but eventually it will involve them that's why they cared to stop Fen'harel.

 

I'm thinking that the whole premise is starting to become a little ridiculous tbh.

I get that the Dragon age was somehow designed to be this bridge of transition for the new age probably with more magical strawberries but that each single decade there is a new uber powerful enemy that risk to destroy the entire world really bring things on the level of DBZ in terms of plot.

That's what you get apparently when you introduce to many people able to destroy the entire world and i bet that Bioware will even introduce the Evanuris in the future,so expect even more greater world threats than before,because if they don't give you an uber protagonist that have to save the entire world they are not satisfied.

[BansheeOwnage]

If you don't want to block them, like I did, you can just block their sig in the blocking preferences.

Ah, interesting, I didn't know you could do that. Thanks!

 

To be honest, I though magic in this universe have a few similarities to how biotics work in ME. They use physical movements to better trigger (think reflex) their mental impulses. Or in this case, whatever mental gymnastics mages use to cast a spell.

It may not be required, but mentally connecting a physical movement (hand extension) to a desired effect may make the process of spell casting a bit easier.

That's what I was trying to say, thanks for saying it better

 

It's only my opinion. No need to get all worked up.

You know, you use this on practically anything anyone responds to you with. There is a difference between getting worked up and giving you a counter-argument, you know... A huge one. It's even worse since you usually don't even try to give a counter-counter argument, you just act like the other person was making a big deal out of "just your opinion" and need to calm down, when they are perfectly calm.

 

 

I'm thinking that the whole premise is starting to become a little ridiculous tbh.

I get that the Dragon age was somehow designed to be this bridge of transition for the new age probably with more magical strawberries but that each single decade there is a new uber powerful enemy that risk to destroy the entire world really bring things on the level of DBZ in terms of plot.

That's what you get apparently when you introduce to many people able to destroy the entire world and i bet that Bioware will even introduce the Evanuris in the future,so expect even more greater world threats than before,because if they don't give you an uber protagonist that have to save the entire world they are not satisfied.

I don't really mind. It's just like how every superhero film will have an enemy who can threaten the world. If they couldn't, they'd often (but not always) seem like they're unworthy of being fought by a superhero, and it would be boring. However, I also wouldn't mind having the "save the world" games be interspersed with smaller-scale DA2-style games.