As someone who firmly believes I'll spend my retirement years alone in an assisted living room with a vast collection of ever-immersive RPG games, they will pry white hair and wrinkly CC options out of my cold dead hands.
You know by that time you might use augmentations or nanotechnology or something to prolong your life.
You know by that time you might use augmentations or nanotechnology or something to prolong your life.
Yeah, who knows what will happen in the next few decades? It's exciting.
Solas has never been on my appreciation list. Ambivalence is a good word for my take on the character. But I like him for the first time reading how others have enjoyed the character.
@Addictress - Thank you for making your post. Taking a peek from your perspective has given me an appreciation for something I never cared about before.
When they first started introducing character profiles for DAI I did not like Solas at all. I also thought omgersh, wow, he's not quite as pretty as I'd like an elf to be. (I think the Dragon Age series has some of the homeliest elves in the universes of elfdom personally- because elves are typically described as utterly beautiful so that's where I'm coming from). The fact that he is a fade nerd did not appeal to me at all either and I'm relatively pro mage throughout the series (I always play mages- but I'm the type that prefers equality, temperance, and cooperation rather than razing one group over the other).
But then I met him as a human mage on my first play through. Phew that voice 
Then I attempted to court him/curry his favor and found to my dislike that I had to subvert what I thought were more moderate and well thought out pov's about spirits in the world- since the DA world has taught us largely that spirits are not to be taken lightly or with ease. I did not like this very much at all. So I found myself being cordial and just utilizing him occasionally and enjoying his stories.
Then I found his dialogue to be pretty attractive along with his voice- then I saw the romance arc on youtube and thought Holy Hell I have to try this. So I rolled a Lavallen for my second playthrough. This was before Trespasser was released. So I didn't have the sense of betrayal that you would feel had you gone through Trespasser. At that point Levallen knows nothing except he has a lot to hide and left her in the dust for some unknown reason. It piqued my interest- if he's leaving there has to be a reason and I knew whatever it was it had to be a big deal.
I was suspicious about his character because he relied on the Fade for all of his knowledge and he was always circumspect about his answers and his source of information was while he said the fade- as many have noted- he also talks about how the fade is many variations of pov of any single thing- so that in fact would NOT be a decided good resource for a fact finding mission except to say perhaps you might find a lost place that doesn't exist anymore or item or some information. But due to the nature of the Fade I thought this would not be reliable information. *shrugs*
Then the post credit scene and Tresspasser.
My human characters will always try to stop him- because that is the logical choice. My elves will always try to prevent him from unmaking the world rather than just outright kill him (or the insinuation of) because it's very feasible for an elf lover to agree with this end goal given the state of Thedas with elves.
It doesn't make it right- it doesn't make it a good solution the problem- it only requires an elf lover to be so smitten with her lover that she will do anything to validate it. That kind of love exists in the RL and is feasible to see happening with the elf lover IMO.
His character is kind of like a rock star equivalent of the elf world 
I agree that most of the relationships that we are offered in the Bioware IP's are unhealthy. I also think it's stupid to extrapolate that anyone that enjoys any kind of character in fiction would abide this behavior IRL. Oftentimes the antihero or the villian can be more satisfying than the hero in terms of interest. Look at the fall of Superman fans for example- I have always loved heroes like Superman but he's too OP and too vanilla and "good" for anyone to like him much anymore for example. (no I haven't seen the recent BvS film yet) A good enemy makes things worth watching/reading/playing.
To me Solas is a great enemy and keeps my interest- we don't really know what is going to happen but we can and have made some good guesses but it hurts to see him have to be taken down 
I don't get either he is the second most boring god in media first being raiden from mortal kombat.
... wut? Raiden has one of the best moments in movie history!
Because he looks like a nug .... a wonderfully awesome Dread Nug.
Would be awesome if someone could here make a mod where everything Solas says is replaced by nug sounds.Because he looks like a nug .... a wonderfully awesome Dread Nug.
Would be awesome if someone could here make a mod where everything Solas says is replaced by nug sounds.
No, replace Solas' body model with a nug 
No, replace Solas' body model with a nug
I can just imagine the Dark Solas theme resonating in the background as Nug Solas hops away into the eluvian.
I can just imagine the Dark Solas theme resonating in the background as Nug Solas hops away into the eluvian.
It's all a conspiracy of the Nug King. Solas is just a puppet - or a shapechanging nug.
I suspect you have questions.
Lavellan does, like:
"Solas, babe, did we like, do it or not yet? 'Cause reasons".
haha *posts on tumblr*
haha *posts on tumblr*
I don't know how, but Leliana needs to get in there somewhere.
Is the any analysis comparing Sola’s story with ancient greek and roman myths? I’m thinking Uranus/Caelus (father of the sky) and Cronus/Saturn (gods of the golden age) in particular.
I don't understand what you mean?We've never found a general consensus? Not even in a few general traits? I wasn't aware of that. A good amount of the time, both sides are willing to agree that he is at least full of conviction (for good or ill), clever (he made it to endgame without anyone learning who really is) and generally (but not always) keeps to himself.
I brought this up once before, but when exactly did he lie? The only thing I can think of as blatant misinformation was when he said he came from a "small village to the north", otherwise just about everything else he said was accurate in one sense or another.
He described himself as an apostate whose studies have allowed him to ..
Unless you think not being as crystal clear constitutes as lying...
I never understood what Solas want.
(...)He only care about the Fade and wish to merge it with the world but this seem to me more like a whism than a necessity since if he like the magic of the fade he can simply return into that Dimension when he want with the others elves like him.
(I’m not a native speaker hope what I'm going to write will be somewhat comprehensible)
All great religions, philosophies and political theories start with the idea of a split between two worlds or two realms.
All those theories and religions claimed the goal must be to re-establish the once lost unity (on a higher level). Whether it's reconciliation with god, the world spirit that needs to find itself again or psychoanalysis trying to make the unconscious conscious.
So...
The fade: The unconscious, heaven, ideal world, the metaphysical realm
The world: The conscious, earth, material world, the physical realm
Solas' goal: To merge both.
Basically Solas is a revolutionary/ idealist archetype.
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thinking about it, revolution has two meanings:
Its original meaning: Going back to the starting point
Its modern meaning: A sudden, radical, or complete change
To be specific, Solas' goal is to break the barrier that separates the two dimensions...A barrier he created...
We discussed comparisons to Prometheus a few pages back.Is the any analysis comparing Sola’s story with ancient greek and roman myths? I’m thinking Uranus/Caelus (father of the sky) and Cronus/Saturn (gods of the golden age) in particular.
We discussed comparisons to Prometheus a few pages back.
The other god I think Solas character has some aspects of is Hermes/Mercury.... Although, with Weekes comparing him to a time lord, maybe Thoth is more like it.
I had thought of Cronus, mostly because the story of Elgar'nan reminded me of it, with Elgar'nan overthrowing his father. Mythal appears out of the water sort of like Aphrodite. They do seem to be following the same pattern of male gods overthrowing the father, and the whole dismembering of a giant, and exile of Titans, etc. But that's not unique to Greek myth. It makes me wonder if Falon'din had planned to overthrow Elgar'nan in turn, and maybe even at the urging of Mythal behind the scenes, or one of the other elven goddesses (Ghil'linan?). Falon'din is actually the one depicted with the sickle, so maybe he is a better fit for Cronus.
Falon'Din doesn't carry a sickle, it's a shepherd's crook, since he's the one who guides spirits to the Fade. Considering what Solas said about him, maybe a sickle might be more appropriate. 
Haha, maybe you're right, then it's not a fit, although Saturn is somewhat less dark in some later myths where he remains a god of agriculture and civilization.Falon'Din doesn't carry a sickle, it's a shepherd's crook, since he's the one who guides spirits to the Fade. Considering what Solas said about him, maybe a sickle might be more appropriate.
Haha, maybe you're right, then it's not a fit, although Saturn is somewhat less dark in some later myths where he remains a god of agriculture and civilization.
I was thinking about how Cronus is over thrown and imprisoned because of his devouring and destructive nature (as the god of time, swallowing his children). Falon'din was said to be vain and destructive, causing a lot of death by starting wars to get more and more followers, etc.
Solas as Cronus I can see maybe, as a god who castrates heaven (by cutting off the mortal world from the fade), and causing death through decay/time (loss of immortality). But Cronus was a Titan.
Considering Cronus is a titan and the titans are the children of Gaia and Uranus - who are the "old gods" - while Cronus children are Zeus, Hera, Poseidon etc. - who are the "new gods" - this sort of makes sense (?!).
Cronus either derives from chronology (but most historians consider this wrong) or kraino, which means the perfector completor (kind of hard to find a fitting english translation). Regarding mythology the whole agricultural part isn't that important. It's more relevant to the rituals. In the written sources, especially Hesiod, the most important characterization of Cronus is that he's the god of the golden age like you said which is a time "before time" or "in between the times". His reign kind of doesn't belong to history or physical time at all.
Cronus has been banished by Zeus (and some sources even claim put so sleep) which ended the golden age.
I'll quote some stuff from wikipedia about the golden age (all the sources I have are in german and translating them would be too much effort)
[Men] lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all devils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace.
There are also versions according to which men didn't die during the golden age.
And in roman mythology Saturnus reign is expected to return:
Now the last age by Cumae's Sibyl sung
Has come and gone, and the majestic roll
Of circling centuries begins anew:
Astraea returns,
Returns old Saturn's reign,
With a new breed of men sent down from heaven.
Anyway, I suppose the writers didn't do extensive research of greek and roman mythology when creating Solas but the similarities are striking even though most likely accidental.
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